Baker Ranch in Lake Forest / Foothill Ranch

[socal78]

Why does only one of the Heights models have extra garage space? Highlands are all 2-car garages... for over $1mil? Boo.

Remember earlier in this thread, I posted documents about plans to build 3CWG's, down to the detail. And the agent here that I talked to claims over $1.5M... he actually said closer to $2M. Also, since the Grand Opening over the weekend, it's been reported by other agents that after Phase I, prices WILL increase. So, I think we see where they're going with this.

 

[bones]

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[irvinehomeowner]

Why does only one of the Heights models have extra garage space? Highlands are all 2-car garages... for over $1mil? Boo.

Remember earlier in this thread, I posted documents about plans to build 3CWG's, down to the detail. And the agent here that I talked to claims over $1.5M... he actually said closer to $2M. Also, since the Grand Opening over the weekend, it's been reported by other agents that after Phase I, prices WILL increase. So, I think we see where they're going with this.

For those prices, it would be better to live in Irvine, or buy something cheaper with a 3CWG in Foothill Ranch.

 

[socal78]

Shea - condensed & clickable:

Brookland

From the low $500k's

Plan 1A6D / 1,273 sqft.
Plan 2C6D / 1,579 sqft.
Plan 3XCD / 1,618 sqft.


The Knolls

From the high $500k's

Plan 1 / 1,578 sqft.
Plan 2 / 1,631 sqft.
Plan 3 / 1,671 sqft.

Ridgewood

From the high $700k's

Plan 1 / 2,124 sqft.
Plan 2 / 2,202 sqft.
Plan 3 / 2,390 sqft.

Ridgewood pricing sheets, detailed i.e. lots: click here.

 

[jmoney74]

Irvinehomeowner.. these prices are probably 5% less than what you can get over at PP.. a little bit more than IP products as well.  No MRs.. that's also a big chunk over time as well. 

I myself still prefer Irvine.. but outside of the jail .. you can't make a huge argument.. esp based on API scores.  Seems like the kids will still get a quality education over there. 

 

[liveatoc]

I visited ParkView and RidgeWood homes

I liked ParkView models.
RidgeWood models are not attractive compared to ParkVeiw.

PakrView:
Pros:
Nice interior design.
Attractive plans
Close to club house, Swimming pool and community park.

Cons:
Moter Court homes
Smaller lot sizes
Medium density and adjacent to Town homes.
Close to 241

RidgeWood:
Pros:
Good lot size.
Nice views
Large back yard.
Low-Medium density

Cons:
I personally did not like main floor plans.
Far away from club house, Swimming pool and community park.

I may vote Model 3 is better compared to other 2 in RidgeWood.

10,000 home buyers stopped buy this weekend..http://lakeforest-ca.patch.com/groups/real-estate/p/baker-ranch-homes-go-on-the-market

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Irvinehomeowner.. these prices are probably 5% less than what you can get over at PP.. a little bit more than IP products as well.  No MRs.. that's also a big chunk over time as well. 

I myself still prefer Irvine.. but outside of the jail .. you can't make a huge argument.. esp based on API scores.  Seems like the kids will still get a quality education over there.

1)  Being in Irvine means more stable home prices and a more desirable market to sell. 

2)  There is a pretty big difference in API scores

2013 API scores:

El Toro High: 839
Serrano Intermediate:  894
Foothill Ranch Elementary:  909

compare with

Northwood (SG/PP): 921
Irvine (CV):  878
Jeffrey Trail:  No Data
Stonegate Elementary:  963
Canyon View (PP):  959

 

[qwerty]

Irvinehomeowner.. these prices are probably 5% less than what you can get over at PP.. a little bit more than IP products as well.  No MRs.. that's also a big chunk over time as well. 

I myself still prefer Irvine.. but outside of the jail .. you can't make a huge argument.. esp based on API scores.  Seems like the kids will still get a quality education over there.

1)  Being in Irvine means more stable home prices and a more desirable market to sell. 

2)  There is a pretty big difference in API scores

2013 API scores:

El Toro High: 839
Serrano Intermediate:  894
Foothill Ranch Elementary:  909

compare with

Northwood (SG/PP): 921
Irvine (CV):  878
Jeffrey Trail:  No Data
Stonegate Elementary:  963
Canyon View (PP):  959

the kids from baker ranch are pretty much all coming from high income families which tend to value education more so wouldnt the next logical conclusion be that the APIs of whatever schools they attend will increase and close the gap with irvine schools to the point where it doesnt really matter?

Corona del mar high has an API of 901 and out of 2000 students, only about 174 are asian. ill be damned, non asians are smart too

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Irvinehomeowner.. these prices are probably 5% less than what you can get over at PP.. a little bit more than IP products as well.

Except in the $1mil range you get more garage space at PP (and downstairs flex space).

No MRs.. that's also a big chunk over time as well. 

And that's what keeps me from buying new in Irvine.

 

[bones]

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[qwerty]

Irvinehomeowner.. these prices are probably 5% less than what you can get over at PP.. a little bit more than IP products as well.  No MRs.. that's also a big chunk over time as well. 

I myself still prefer Irvine.. but outside of the jail .. you can't make a huge argument.. esp based on API scores.  Seems like the kids will still get a quality education over there.

1)  Being in Irvine means more stable home prices and a more desirable market to sell. 

2)  There is a pretty big difference in API scores

2013 API scores:

El Toro High: 839
Serrano Intermediate:  894
Foothill Ranch Elementary:  909

compare with

Northwood (SG/PP): 921
Irvine (CV):  878
Jeffrey Trail:  No Data
Stonegate Elementary:  963
Canyon View (PP):  959

the kids from baker ranch are pretty much all coming from high income families which tend to value education more so wouldnt the next logical conclusion be that the APIs of whatever schools they attend will increase and close the gap with irvine schools to the point where it doesnt really matter?

Corona del mar high has an API of 901 and out of 2000 students, only about 174 are asian. ill be damned, non asians are smart too

CDM high school is prob not the best example to use:http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79161245/

all this tells me is that both white kids (newport) and asian kids (irvine) are both cheaters.  let the record show that hispanics dont cheat to get our low 800 API scores. this shows hispanics are the only honest ones out there

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Irvinehomeowner.. these prices are probably 5% less than what you can get over at PP.. a little bit more than IP products as well.  No MRs.. that's also a big chunk over time as well. 

I myself still prefer Irvine.. but outside of the jail .. you can't make a huge argument.. esp based on API scores.  Seems like the kids will still get a quality education over there.

1)  Being in Irvine means more stable home prices and a more desirable market to sell. 

2)  There is a pretty big difference in API scores

2013 API scores:

El Toro High: 839
Serrano Intermediate:  894
Foothill Ranch Elementary:  909

compare with

Northwood (SG/PP): 921
Irvine (CV):  878
Jeffrey Trail:  No Data
Stonegate Elementary:  963
Canyon View (PP):  959

the kids from baker ranch are pretty much all coming from high income families which tend to value education more so wouldnt the next logical conclusion be that the APIs of whatever schools they attend will increase and close the gap with irvine schools to the point where it doesnt really matter?

Corona del mar high has an API of 901 and out of 2000 students, only about 174 are asian. ill be damned, non asians are smart too

Maybe...but as of right now...there is a significant difference in API scores.

 

[homer_simpson]

Irvinehomeowner.. these prices are probably 5% less than what you can get over at PP.. a little bit more than IP products as well.  No MRs.. that's also a big chunk over time as well. 

I myself still prefer Irvine.. but outside of the jail .. you can't make a huge argument.. esp based on API scores.  Seems like the kids will still get a quality education over there.

1)  Being in Irvine means more stable home prices and a more desirable market to sell. 

2)  There is a pretty big difference in API scores

2013 API scores:

El Toro High: 839
Serrano Intermediate:  894
Foothill Ranch Elementary:  909

compare with

Northwood (SG/PP): 921
Irvine (CV):  878
Jeffrey Trail:  No Data
Stonegate Elementary:  963
Canyon View (PP):  959

the kids from baker ranch are pretty much all coming from high income families which tend to value education more so wouldnt the next logical conclusion be that the APIs of whatever schools they attend will increase and close the gap with irvine schools to the point where it doesnt really matter?

Corona del mar high has an API of 901 and out of 2000 students, only about 174 are asian. ill be damned, non asians are smart too

CDM high school is prob not the best example to use:http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79161245/

all this tells me is that both white kids (newport) and asian kids (irvine) are both cheaters.  let the record show that hispanics dont cheat give a crap to get our low 800 API scores. this shows hispanics are the only honest ones out there

Don't worry I fixed your mistake... That's what Asian's do best 

 

[bones]

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[qwerty]

homer is like BASF, he doesnt write your statements, he makes the statements you make, better.
http://www.sierrapacificturf.com/files/BASFHerbicideFamiliesandtheircharacteristics.pdf

 

[homer_simpson]

Let me help you help me  8)

 

[socal78]

Also did anyone find out if the community pools had a spa too?

Yes, there are spas. I count 3.:

"The Grove also proves a spacious ballroom with tall glass doors opening to an outdoor courtyard for small- and large-group entertaining. Also featured are an open-air bar adjacent to a tall stone fireplace and a covered walkway leading from the clubhouse to a resort-caliber lagoon swimming pool with spa and children?s splash area, covered poolside cabanas, as well as a separate ?quiet? pool with spa and lounging area.
In addition, Baker Ranch visitors were able to walk through the newly completed Baker Ranch Community Park with its lush ?ready for play? athletic fields, a community green surrounded by picnic and grill pavilions, an elaborate play structure, and plenty of open space for a relaxing day. And, the pool, wading pool, spa and expansive play area at The Arbors as well as two additional neighborhood parks also welcomes guests to the grand opening.

Article

 

[socal78]

I didn't see any Spa's in the community / clubhouse pool but the common area's were really nice.  I only checked the lagoon pool didn't walk back to the second one.  I think that was the adult pool so there may be a spa back there. 

1 near the lagoon
1 near the quiet pool
1 in The Arbors

 

[socal78]

Also does lake forest have a low tax rate close to 1%? Just worried about added taxes like in RSM and fees like ladera etc. I'm seeing if moving here would save us some money long term with selling our current house in south county and swapping it for the same pried home here in baker ranch. It's the extra taxes, and mello Roos that really add up. Thanks I advance.

Here, I copied & pasted straight from my property tax bill for you. You can delete the Mello Roos line since BR doesn't pay MR:

A1 BASIC LEVY RATE 1.00000
A1 SADDLEBACK VLY UNIFIED .03207
A1 METRO WATER D-MWDOC .00350
SPL ASMNT DIST DEBT
A4 IRVINE RANCH WATER DIST .04590

SPCL ASSESSMENT CHARG PHONE NO.
BA MOSQ,FIRE ANT ASSMT (800)273-5167 5.02
B3 VECTOR CONTROL CHG (800)273-5167 1.92
C7 MWD WATER STDBY CHG (866)807-6864 10.08
BR does not pay this --->[S3 MELLO ROOS S3 (949)955-1500 1,564.34]

TOTAL TAXES CHARGED 1.08147

 

[ilovecheese]

Hi everyone....I'm brand new on this board, but I've been following/stalking this thread for a while now, and figured it's finally time to contribute my 2 cents.

My husband and I have been waiting to see Baker Ranch since summer of last year....we've spent a LONG time considering the pros and cons of living in that area vs Irvine. And when BR opened this weekend we were there on Fri for the VIP event and then went again on Saturday. We looked only at the Toll Bros models (The Heights and The Highlands) and we thought models were lovely and met our needs. So we put on hard hats and went to see the lots, and let me just say, they were a HUGE disappointment. First of all, the highest priced homes (The Highlands) are on the worst location...right across from these factory/warehouses....literally, just yards across. Not only is that a major eyesore, but the compressor at one of these factories was making a very loud buzzing noise and it was extremely irritating. And this was a Saturday! I can only imagine what the weekday noises would be like. We were STUNNED that million dollar homes would be in such an awful location. Once all the homes are built in, views will be very minimal...unless you count the ones that face Alton Pkwy as a "view". The Heights and Highlands models facing Alton are considered the "premium view lots", which means you'll be paying extra to enjoy all that weekday traffic buzz from Alton.
The remaining lots of Heights and Highlands were all just as crappy as the new homes in Irvine. The sqft numbers look appealing at first (5500, 6200), but then when you get to the lot and see where the home is placed, it's terrible. The CA room cuts into most of it. And then many have a big slope behind them which is included in the sqft of the lot. Ridiculous.

Overall, BR was a huge letdown. Like I said, models are gorgeous, community amenities are fantastic, but lots are ATROCIOUS. Just the same that you'd get in Irvine, minus MR.