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USCTrojanCPA said:
Terran said:
19001 ANTIOCH Dr - $$1,098,000http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/19001-Antioch-Dr-92603/home/4739364

They want $98k more than what was paid in 2006 for a house that backs up to Culver.  But, it's has a three car garage  ;)


Beds: 4
Baths: 2.5
Sq. Ft.: 2,177
$/Sq. Ft.: $504
Lot Size: 8,925 Sq. Ft.
Property Type: Residential, Single Family
Style: One Level, Ranch
Year Built: 1969
Community: Turtle Rock
If they spent $300k to renovate the home, they got royally ripped off.  Nice sized lot and inside looks nice too, but backing up to Culver sucks big time.  No way they get over $1m.

$300,000 for those renovations? I wouldn't even give up my kids for those.
 
IndieDev said:
$300,000 for those renovations? I wouldn't even give up my kids for those.
But it sounds like there is something you would give up your kids for.

How disgusting, spineless and cowardly of you to even think that.

LOL.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
IndieDev said:
$300,000 for those renovations? I wouldn't even give up my kids for those.
But it sounds like there is something you would give up your kids for.

How disgusting, spineless and cowardly of you to even think that.

LOL.

This is just an Irvine house backed on Culver. I bet Indie will give up his kids for a Laguna Beach house.
 
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http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/35-Alegria-92620/home/4787714

$998K
35 ALEGRIA Irvine, CA 92620
SQ. FT.: 2,955 == $/SQ. ft $338
LOT SIZE: 7,875 Sq. Ft.
4 BD +3 Bath + Bonus Rm

This one looks decent. Nice pie shaped lot backing to a greenbelt/trail, updated kitchens and bath, Northwood HS, HOA with pool, tennis courts, and tot lot; +/- backyard pool/spa.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
@iac:

That is a nice one actually. But way above what we want to pay... imagine that only 11 years ago... this sold for $475k.

11 years ago, 30 year fixed was around 8%.  I would imagine if interest rate start rising, home prices will fall.  If we go back to the 7~8% range that was 11 years ago, I'm hoping prices will also drop back to the level of 2000.
 
gaogi said:
11 years ago, 30 year fixed was around 8%.  I would imagine if interest rate start rising, home prices will fall.  If we go back to the 7~8% range that was 11 years ago, I'm hoping prices will also drop back to the level of 2000.
I'm in a kids' movie quoting mood (see my comment on the IHB today), so I have another:

You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

- Master Oogway in Kung Fu Panda (supposedly originally from Bill Keane)

What I'm trying to say is even the best fundamentally educated mind can't accurately predict interest rates. 3 years ago, everyone said interest rates would go up... instead they've gone down. It seems logical that at record lows, they should go back up but when and how high... and will the prices really drop proportionately? Over on the OCReader, Lloyd Dobler had this to say:

Lloyd said:
I think it's a fallacy based on observed behavior when rates decreased, meaning that as rates were falling people were buying and refinancing in order to take advantage, leading to an increase in purchases and the subsequent increase in demand drove prices higher.

If prices rose when rates fell, then the opposite must be true... right?

No. Interest rates rose sharply during the 70's and 80's and yet the historical record shows that new home sales were unaffected by the fluctuation. in fact, new home sales more closely tracked the ebb and flow of the economy, indifferent to interest rates.
http://ocreader.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14039#p14039

The 4.x% thread here seems to indicate that we might be at these levels for a while... the funny thing is... we've been at these mid 4 to mid 5 rates for about 3 years now yet prices are still going down... so they aren't the only factor in making prices go lower.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
gaogi said:
11 years ago, 30 year fixed was around 8%.  I would imagine if interest rate start rising, home prices will fall.  If we go back to the 7~8% range that was 11 years ago, I'm hoping prices will also drop back to the level of 2000.
I'm in a kids' movie quoting mood (see my comment on the IHB today), so I have another:

You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

- Master Oogway in Kung Fu Panda (supposedly originally from Bill Keane)

What I'm trying to say is even the best fundamentally educated mind can't accurately predict interest rates. 3 years ago, everyone said interest rates would go up... instead they've gone down. It seems logical that at record lows, they should go back up but when and how high... and will the prices really drop proportionately? Over on the OCReader, Lloyd Dobler had this to say:

Lloyd said:
I think it's a fallacy based on observed behavior when rates decreased, meaning that as rates were falling people were buying and refinancing in order to take advantage, leading to an increase in purchases and the subsequent increase in demand drove prices higher.

If prices rose when rates fell, then the opposite must be true... right?

No. Interest rates rose sharply during the 70's and 80's and yet the historical record shows that new home sales were unaffected by the fluctuation. in fact, new home sales more closely tracked the ebb and flow of the economy, indifferent to interest rates.
http://ocreader.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14039#p14039

The 4.x% thread here seems to indicate that we might be at these levels for a while... the funny thing is... we've been at these mid 4 to mid 5 rates for about 3 years now yet prices are still going down... so they aren't the only factor in making prices go lower.

Yeah, everyone has been saying rates will go up for a long time, but nothing shows signs of this being true.  The flight to safety today even is showing this to be the case.  I'm going with the global economy will need to be much more stable than it is currently before rates will really push up again.  Ya know, unless the credit agencies grow a set and drop our rating like they said they would.  But I doubt it as it'll only hurt the economy as it makes it hard for homes and cars to sell, which wouldn't help them any.

Though, I agree with the notion that rates will likely have an impact on hurting homes costs in the years ahead, at least it will in Irvine as prices have not adjusted the way most of the country has.  Because people can afford the extra 150k on a home price with these low rates, they are buying.  It leaves little room in the way of actual cost changes though, so when rates go up, prices will have to go down.  I guess that's just like my opinion man.
 
With what's going on with Europe (debt issues), fed/local gov't here cutting back, slow job growth, and plenty of slack in the system it points to rates staying low for an extended period of time (probably in the high 3% to high 4% range) is my best guess.  Remember that Japan's debt got downgraded and look where their bond yields are today.
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
With what's going on with Europe (debt issues), fed/local gov't here cutting back, slow job growth, and plenty of slack in the system it points to rates staying low for an extended period of time (probably in the high 3% to high 4% range) is my best guess.  Remember that Japan's debt got downgraded and look where their bond yields are today.

Yup, I completely agree.  All I can hope for is that the economy does poorly due to consumer interest which could lead to a lowering in home prices as well.  Otherwise, no buying for me.  :'(
 
I agree... I would much rather take a TR 3CWG than a LV 2CG... and this downward trend has me thinking that I might still be able to score a 3CWG within the Irvine sphere of influence.
 
Having the range on the center island seems like the worst place possible with kids around.

As far as Jamboree - I have to imagine the noise is comparable to LV 133 noise, maybe more people accelerating
 
On those older island stoves... the vent is on the range itself... either in pop-out form or on the surface.

Bad for kids but sometimes cool for entertaining (think Benihana).
 
How could that possibly be effective?  Smoke (hot air) rises, so I can't see it being real useful.  I need a hood with the amount of cooking I do.  It is a big requirement of mine even, a microwave with a vent won't do either.  I guess people who don't cook might not care though.
 
Nous said:
How could that possibly be effective?  Smoke (hot air) rises, so I can't see it being real useful.  I need a hood with the amount of cooking I do.  It is a big requirement of mine even, a microwave with a vent won't do either.  I guess people who don't cook might not care though.
I agree with you.

It's probably why any homes that are built today with that kind of setup, have top hoods.
 
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