I can only speak for northwood. Can a kid get straight A, excellent sat and ap score without any tutoring? Yes. Can a kid get into good schools without being a superman and live a normal life (Sleep before 11pm, have time to pursue his own interest)? Yes. Can he get into any ivy? Yes if he is lucky.
Which SAT prep academy in Irvine?
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This is not new. College admission consulting has been a thing for years. It's not asian exclusive either. There are several outfits in irvine that actually cater to a predominantly white (85%+) clientele (students from irvine, south county and the coastal cities). Packages start at a couple thousand dollars. Hourly fees can range from $150+. Some of the asian SAT factories also do admission consulting. Even crazier is in NYC, there are private preschool consultants. One charges like $10k to get your kid into the "right" preschool.
For some, they need to invest in order for their kid to get into a "top" UC. Don't assume all that tutoring/counseling is only for Ivys. People of all student ability levels seek help. It's not just for the overachieving rich crowd.
Man this year's oscars is a snooze.
irvinehomeshopper
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Northwood is the best school of the entire IUSD. Even another parent stated that achievement alone is not enough for a top college acceptance. Most applicants don't see the happy "L" in the word "Luck". "F" is more like it when comes to top college acceptance.
Wait what? Harvard refuses to accept any more Asian Americans from San Marino High School? Clickbait 
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http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=2
:http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=2
irvinehusky
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Wow, none of us believed things were 100% fair but if there's really a point system like this, that is something else.
bones said:Wait what? Harvard refuses to accept any more Asian Americans from San Marino High School? Clickbait
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=2
Did anyone heard of college applicants using some sort of college admission specialist or consultant?
Heard from a friend that many Asians in So-Cal and Taiwan using some type of college admission service that provides besides the usual consulting and college admission preparation stuff, they arrange atypical extra curricular activities like equestrian competition, volunteer at undeveloped countries, internship at high places for the students in order for them to be stand out and increase chance of acceptance to top colleges.
I was told the the cost of these program can be as high as $40k.
Heard from a friend that many Asians in So-Cal and Taiwan using some type of college admission service that provides besides the usual consulting and college admission preparation stuff, they arrange atypical extra curricular activities like equestrian competition, volunteer at undeveloped countries, internship at high places for the students in order for them to be stand out and increase chance of acceptance to top colleges.
I was told the the cost of these program can be as high as $40k.
lnc said:
This is not new. College admission consulting has been a thing for years. It's not asian exclusive either. There are several outfits in irvine that actually cater to a predominantly white (85%+) clientele (students from irvine, south county and the coastal cities). Packages start at a couple thousand dollars. Hourly fees can range from $150+. Some of the asian SAT factories also do admission consulting. Even crazier is in NYC, there are private preschool consultants. One charges like $10k to get your kid into the "right" preschool.
cost for raising an ivy overachievers:
tutoring + college consultation : $50k (assuming still attending public school)
cost of 4 year ivy over top UC college: $150k
total: $200k
if that's an investment you want to do and kids enjoy it, by all means go for it.
if you have too much money to throw, go for it. i am sure this money is peanuts to a lot of people.
i prefer the kids to go to a top UC and maybe go to a better graduate school later if they want to.
no tutoring needed and saved a bunch.
tutoring + college consultation : $50k (assuming still attending public school)
cost of 4 year ivy over top UC college: $150k
total: $200k
if that's an investment you want to do and kids enjoy it, by all means go for it.
if you have too much money to throw, go for it. i am sure this money is peanuts to a lot of people.
i prefer the kids to go to a top UC and maybe go to a better graduate school later if they want to.
no tutoring needed and saved a bunch.
sentosa said:
For some, they need to invest in order for their kid to get into a "top" UC. Don't assume all that tutoring/counseling is only for Ivys. People of all student ability levels seek help. It's not just for the overachieving rich crowd.
Man this year's oscars is a snooze.
what i heard and experienced is that when the parents raise their hope too high, they put so much pressure onto the kids. and the kids take on more tasks than they can handle. e.g. sports team, band, several clubs, outside AP classes every summer, excessive volunteer activities etc.
now the kids don't have enough time for school work, sleep and normal life. and then their grades and health suffer. now they will need tutoring to keep it up. and still the they are always tired and hard to focus.
for northwood, every year there are about 30-40 kids being admitted to berkeley, and may be half of them will enroll. i am sure UCLA, UCSD, UCD, UCI etc all have many kids being admitted every year from every irvine school.
so if you can pick your activities accordingly and try not to wear yourself out. you have a fairly good chance of being admitted to one of these schools.
but the problem is that most people are not happy with UCs.
and then look at the ivy admissions from irvine schools, every year none or only a couple being admitted from each school. so really parents and kids need to look at themselves and choose accordingly.
choose the school that fits you, not the school that your parents & yourself can be bragging about.
now the kids don't have enough time for school work, sleep and normal life. and then their grades and health suffer. now they will need tutoring to keep it up. and still the they are always tired and hard to focus.
for northwood, every year there are about 30-40 kids being admitted to berkeley, and may be half of them will enroll. i am sure UCLA, UCSD, UCD, UCI etc all have many kids being admitted every year from every irvine school.
so if you can pick your activities accordingly and try not to wear yourself out. you have a fairly good chance of being admitted to one of these schools.
but the problem is that most people are not happy with UCs.
and then look at the ivy admissions from irvine schools, every year none or only a couple being admitted from each school. so really parents and kids need to look at themselves and choose accordingly.
choose the school that fits you, not the school that your parents & yourself can be bragging about.
qwerty
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Is it really that tough to get into college now? Back in my day, in my town of 5,000, We just showed up and took the SAT. No prep, nothing. No one got tutors. Same thing with the CPA exam, people would study over 3-4 months before the exam. I took the week off before the exam, studied 8-5, so about 45 hours worth, passed it. These people are nuts
irvinehomeshopper
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FCBs are spending $400k to polish and enhance their kids academic and lifestyle resume to the top tier college applications over many years. Unfortunately, mostly by default many applicants ended at Cal, UCLA and UCSD. A poor kid from El Monte could just as easily gotten in without burdening their parents $400k.
irvinehomeshopper
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Skip the SAT. Junior colleges don't require a SAT score. Save on tuition and transfer to UCI after 2 years. Get good grades and attend a good graduate school. The only piece of paper that really matters is that last diploma.
irvinehomeowner
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Otherwise known as the IHO-vy.irvinehomeshopper said: