Which SAT prep academy in Irvine?
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Haha. Not to get super technical here but what does "ivy aspirations" really mean? I don't NEED or WANT my kid to go to harvard, but I'm going to set my kid up so if by 0.000001% chance, the kid has the smarts/desire to go & gets accepted, the kid can. Maybe your kids are older and you know they're too dumb for harvard so that's your mindset? Or are you saying even if Harvard was the absolute right fit for them, you wouldn't send them b/c you have no "ivy aspirations". Besides who cares if you have no ivy aspirations? Shouldn't it be the kid that does or does not since they would be the ones going or not going?
I think he's assuming that parents put their kids into Montessori, Irvine schools and SAT Prep course because they think it's the best chance for their kids to get into an Ivy.
I just think they do it because they want their kids to have the best and safest education possible. If it gets them into an Ivy, that's fine, but I don't think anyone here feels it's going to guarantee them a path into New England's finest.
Personally, I don't find the value in an Ivy but that's because my career doesn't really require that pedigree. But if my kids were to pursue something that an Ivy education would benefit, we would address that during that time. So, yes, it does depend on what they want too.
As for who cares, read IHS' post... he does. And he thinks that a large portion of TI members do too... but I don't think that's the case.
i dont have any ivy aspirations for my kid. whatever success ive achieved is probably more personality and good looks than smarts
i think i have the minimum level of smarts to succeed in the corporate world, definitely not a braniac though so dont expect to have braniac kids. thats why im hoping my daughter takes after me in the looks departments so she can marry rich or become a victoria secret model.
Stanford received an average of 45 applications from each Irvine High School that total approx 225 applicants from Irvine. Irvine holds the highest number of applicants with Palos Alto in second and Cuprrtino in the distant 3rd.
Judging from the TI topic Education in behind RE in thread count assuming the general Water cooler does not count. There are countless good high schools outside of Irvine too for education and don't tell me that a good high school education is what parents are aiming for and nothing more.
i1 - you make a good point. The other cities you mentioned have good schools in their district. Which can be found at www.greatschools.org.
There are many factors that are key to a successful student career. Parenting, student study ethics, test performance and quality of teachers.
But I believe there are many people that believe sending their child to a school that is ranked "10" will automatically produce a genius.
irvinehomeowner
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Other than bones, Farmmie and maybe qwerminority, I don't think many of the TI members have Ivy aspirations for their kids.
I don't... I need my kids to stay home and take care of me while I age into oblivion.
I don't... I need my kids to stay home and take care of me while I age into oblivion.
irvinehomeowner said:
Haha. Not to get super technical here but what does "ivy aspirations" really mean? I don't NEED or WANT my kid to go to harvard, but I'm going to set my kid up so if by 0.000001% chance, the kid has the smarts/desire to go & gets accepted, the kid can. Maybe your kids are older and you know they're too dumb for harvard so that's your mindset? Or are you saying even if Harvard was the absolute right fit for them, you wouldn't send them b/c you have no "ivy aspirations". Besides who cares if you have no ivy aspirations? Shouldn't it be the kid that does or does not since they would be the ones going or not going?
irvinehomeowner
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I'm addressing IHS' post.bones said:
I think he's assuming that parents put their kids into Montessori, Irvine schools and SAT Prep course because they think it's the best chance for their kids to get into an Ivy.
I just think they do it because they want their kids to have the best and safest education possible. If it gets them into an Ivy, that's fine, but I don't think anyone here feels it's going to guarantee them a path into New England's finest.
Personally, I don't find the value in an Ivy but that's because my career doesn't really require that pedigree. But if my kids were to pursue something that an Ivy education would benefit, we would address that during that time. So, yes, it does depend on what they want too.
As for who cares, read IHS' post... he does. And he thinks that a large portion of TI members do too... but I don't think that's the case.
qwerty
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irvinehomeowner said:
i dont have any ivy aspirations for my kid. whatever success ive achieved is probably more personality and good looks than smarts
i think i have the minimum level of smarts to succeed in the corporate world, definitely not a braniac though so dont expect to have braniac kids. thats why im hoping my daughter takes after me in the looks departments so she can marry rich or become a victoria secret model.
irvinehomeshopper
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I read of all these prep, Sat tutoring, academic enhancement courses, private tutoring, the right school for toddlers, API score comparison, buying a house in that high performing School boundary such as Northwood vs Beckman and etc. That is a lot of foreplay and 50 shades of grey preparation and not to expecting a climax. I agree with SoCal's comment.
I just got a Ferrari but I intend to drive like a Chinese old lady and I promise not to show off. Are you going to believe me. This is what many of you sounded like except substitute the school for the car.
I just got a Ferrari but I intend to drive like a Chinese old lady and I promise not to show off. Are you going to believe me. This is what many of you sounded like except substitute the school for the car.
irvinehomeshopper
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If getting a good high school education is what most parents want for their kids then what difference does it make on the SAT scores. SAT is for purely one purpose. It is a common denominator for all colleges to evaluate the college applicants. Be honest to yourself the real reason for most of you buying in Irvine is for the good schools a potential feeder to the top private colleges in the country including Ivies, Cal Tech, Stanford the Claremont Consortium. the colleges located in the East Coast, Chicago and St. Louis.
irvinehomeshopper
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I don't like Irvine and I think its lifeless. I don't biasly think that everyone else feels the same way as me.i1 said:
Stanford received an average of 45 applications from each Irvine High School that total approx 225 applicants from Irvine. Irvine holds the highest number of applicants with Palos Alto in second and Cuprrtino in the distant 3rd.
Judging from the TI topic Education in behind RE in thread count assuming the general Water cooler does not count. There are countless good high schools outside of Irvine too for education and don't tell me that a good high school education is what parents are aiming for and nothing more.
irvinehomeshopper
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Let me rephrase that then the most paramount reason is the good schools among many other anxillary attributes why a majority of buyers chose this city.
Do you know how many businesses in Irvine are college guidance, SAT prep, and academic tutoring related? You will be shock to hear the numbers. It is supply and demand. they exist because they are the profitable. AP exams prep guides outsold all other categories of books at Irvine's Barnes and Noble. AP test tutoring are the most impacted for these businesses. Please tell me why parents pay an obscene amount of money for their students to do well on such elected exams ?
Do you know how many florists are in Irvine? Let me tell you a clue: count the number of Chase Banks.
Do you know how many businesses in Irvine are college guidance, SAT prep, and academic tutoring related? You will be shock to hear the numbers. It is supply and demand. they exist because they are the profitable. AP exams prep guides outsold all other categories of books at Irvine's Barnes and Noble. AP test tutoring are the most impacted for these businesses. Please tell me why parents pay an obscene amount of money for their students to do well on such elected exams ?
Do you know how many florists are in Irvine? Let me tell you a clue: count the number of Chase Banks.
i1 said:
i1 said:
i1 - you make a good point. The other cities you mentioned have good schools in their district. Which can be found at www.greatschools.org.
There are many factors that are key to a successful student career. Parenting, student study ethics, test performance and quality of teachers.
But I believe there are many people that believe sending their child to a school that is ranked "10" will automatically produce a genius.
irvinehomeshopper
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If Irvine has bad schools then will the rest of the package sustain the luster and continue to attract the endless supply of Asian buyers now represent 70% of all new home purchases?
irvinehomeshopper
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Look at every post the reason always come back to school. This family has just an infant a long way from going to school.
I ask 100 people as an experiment the reason they bought in Irvine and the answers always are list in the following order: Good schools, safety, good resale and price appreciation and convenient to job and retail.
I ask 100 people as an experiment the reason they bought in Irvine and the answers always are list in the following order: Good schools, safety, good resale and price appreciation and convenient to job and retail.
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nosuchreality
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Are the schools that good?
No, I don't mean are the schools ranked, that's estasblished. I mean are the results they're getting the result of the school or it really the result that it often seems the high achievers in Irvine are spending 1 hour for every hour in the classroom basically in a private classroom of either tutoring, summer bootcamp, SAT bootcamp, prep, etc.
there's stories right here on TI about Uni high and the AP assignments. The teachers aren't teaching it, they're assuming you're getting outside the class from somewhere else.
I'd hope with basically twice the schooling since age 4 that we'd get some pretty stellar differences in outcomes.
No, I don't mean are the schools ranked, that's estasblished. I mean are the results they're getting the result of the school or it really the result that it often seems the high achievers in Irvine are spending 1 hour for every hour in the classroom basically in a private classroom of either tutoring, summer bootcamp, SAT bootcamp, prep, etc.
there's stories right here on TI about Uni high and the AP assignments. The teachers aren't teaching it, they're assuming you're getting outside the class from somewhere else.
I'd hope with basically twice the schooling since age 4 that we'd get some pretty stellar differences in outcomes.
irvinehomeshopper
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There are a few inspiring teachers in Irvine but they teach humanity classes. The Asian students are interested in the math and sciences and don't really care or even pay attention to these teachers. There are over 500 established businesses and private tutors that supplement the outside of school teaching in Irvine which is 10x more than Los Alamitos/Rossmoor/Cypress combined. Most HS students are not learning the subjects from the teachers fully and parents are frustrated then send their kids to after school and weekend classes. Not all parents do that and their kids get that slightly above average grades. I have been to plenty of Irvine HS open houses and asked many teachers myself what percentage of students get As in their classes. 8-10% has been fairly consistent. 60 students out of a typical senior class of 600 will attend a college somewhere in between UCI and Stanford that accept students only from the top 10% of their graduating class. Many with Asian surnames for sure will ended up attending the UCs excluding UCR and Merced.