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irvinehomeowner said:Again, maybe because you guys don't align politically ...
JIMHO, the chronic pissing match is well into the Stalkerish zone.
irvinehomeowner said:Again, maybe because you guys don't align politically ...
irvinehomeowner said:eyephone said:What are you his Rudy? Because your not doing a good job defending him. In essence your continuing the conversation. I don?t mind actually.
irvinehomeowner said:eyephone said:Of course I have an issue with posts that try to change the narrative.
But the particular narrative here was how low mortgage rates are. Then someone said it could be affected by politics and SGIP chimed in that rates could be affected by anything.
I don't see how that was changing the narrative. Maybe it challenged what you feel politically but that's a separate issue.
Just like the midterm thread he complains about voting with no evidence of fraud. But when I call him out about it straight silence just like this thread.
Sure, but that happened there. Again, the focus of his post here was the whim of rates, not really politics. Maybe he used a bad example to illustrate what he was saying but you keep digressing from the intent (at least what I think the intent was).
Of course we can talk about the Dow.
Please.
Interesting words you are using... "defending"... does that mean you are "attacking"?
All I am saying is that to me, his post was about the whim of rates, sure he may have referenced something political but that he was just continuing on the theme that fortune11 had posted right before:
fortune11 said:Fed speeches getting more dovish I will see what Powell says today
Maybe this is the wrong thread for this ? but just as smart people have locked in lower rates recently , if you are homebuyer for a primary residence ? you need to also be thinking ...
Think of this scenario ? fed turns dovish on rates ? trump calls ceasefire w Chiina ? pboc keeps cutting rates ? semi stocks stabilize ? s&p hits 15 percents from here ...
Not saying above happens but there is decent probability it does ? you will kick yourself for not having acted and being stuck in analysis paralysis when rates were low and you could have negotiated a great discounted deal for yourself
Again, maybe because you guys don't align politically shouldn't detract from the point of his post that rate fluctuation is very hard to predict based on politics.
Do you agree or disagree with that? And does that same principal apply to the Dow?
S&P 500 rises on strong earnings, closing out the best January since 1987
tocks rose to close out their best January in three decades as strong earnings and a Federal Reserve indicating it will pause rate hikes caused investors to rush back into the market following a vicious December sell-off.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/31/stock-market-investors-focus-on-fed-rate-decision.html
Kings said:let's recap:
- trump calls out fed to stop raising rates
- fed raises rates anyway to spite trump
- market falls
- fed takes beating from everyone for stupid policy
- fed backs off on rates and aggressive outlook
- best january gains in decades
moral of the story? trust your president, he knows what's best for you!
*cue forum experts poo pooing trump*
S&P 500 rises on strong earnings, closing out the best January since 1987
tocks rose to close out their best January in three decades as strong earnings and a Federal Reserve indicating it will pause rate hikes caused investors to rush back into the market following a vicious December sell-off.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/31/stock-market-investors-focus-on-fed-rate-decision.html
Irvinecommuter said:Kings said:let's recap:
- trump calls out fed to stop raising rates
- fed raises rates anyway to spite trump
- market falls
- fed takes beating from everyone for stupid policy
- fed backs off on rates and aggressive outlook
- best january gains in decades
moral of the story? trust your president, he knows what's best for you!
*cue forum experts poo pooing trump*
S&P 500 rises on strong earnings, closing out the best January since 1987
tocks rose to close out their best January in three decades as strong earnings and a Federal Reserve indicating it will pause rate hikes caused investors to rush back into the market following a vicious December sell-off.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/31/stock-market-investors-focus-on-fed-rate-decision.html
Geez...I have seen better logic coming from a cultist.
fortune11 said:Another rational and objective thread polluted by MAGA-dud comments
Is there anything constructive or new to offer or just ?backsplaining? based on what happened and picking on individual people to make yourself feel useful ?
Kings said:fortune11 said:Another rational and objective thread polluted by MAGA-dud comments
Is there anything constructive or new to offer or just ?backsplaining? based on what happened and picking on individual people to make yourself feel useful ?
this whole thread is "backsplaining". i'm just pointing out the obvious for your entertainment fed-induced recession is real and we got a taste of their cavalier style last month. no more rate increases and the economy will be off like a rocket this year. right or wrong?
On Monday, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released its annual, beginning of the year update to its economic and budgetary projections, and there?s not much in the report to comfort the Trump administration, or anyone else. CBO projects the economy will continue growing, but at a relatively slow pace, and the federal government will pile up debt at a rate that is well beyond the historical norm.
CBO expects the U.S. economy will grow, in real terms, at a rate of 2.3 percent in calendar year 2019, which would be down from the 3.1 percent growth rate of 2018. More troubling for the administration, CBO expects growth to slow down in 2020 to just 1.7 percent and to 1.6 percent in 2021, and to stay below 2 percent annually throughout the next decade. Between 1991 and 2008, the U.S. economy grew at an average annual rate of 3.1 percent. As growth slows, CBO expects the unemployment rate to rise, from 3.8 percent in 2018 to 4.4 percent in 2021.
Kings said:fortune11 said:Another rational and objective thread polluted by MAGA-dud comments
Is there anything constructive or new to offer or just ?backsplaining? based on what happened and picking on individual people to make yourself feel useful ?
this whole thread is "backsplaining". i'm just pointing out the obvious for your entertainment fed-induced recession is real and we got a taste of their cavalier style last month. no more rate increases and the economy will be off like a rocket this year. right or wrong?
eyephone said:irvinehomeowner said:eyephone said:What are you his Rudy? Because your not doing a good job defending him. In essence your continuing the conversation. I don?t mind actually.
irvinehomeowner said:eyephone said:Of course I have an issue with posts that try to change the narrative.
But the particular narrative here was how low mortgage rates are. Then someone said it could be affected by politics and SGIP chimed in that rates could be affected by anything.
I don't see how that was changing the narrative. Maybe it challenged what you feel politically but that's a separate issue.
Just like the midterm thread he complains about voting with no evidence of fraud. But when I call him out about it straight silence just like this thread.
Sure, but that happened there. Again, the focus of his post here was the whim of rates, not really politics. Maybe he used a bad example to illustrate what he was saying but you keep digressing from the intent (at least what I think the intent was).
Of course we can talk about the Dow.
Please.
Interesting words you are using... "defending"... does that mean you are "attacking"?
All I am saying is that to me, his post was about the whim of rates, sure he may have referenced something political but that he was just continuing on the theme that fortune11 had posted right before:
fortune11 said:Fed speeches getting more dovish I will see what Powell says today
Maybe this is the wrong thread for this ? but just as smart people have locked in lower rates recently , if you are homebuyer for a primary residence ? you need to also be thinking ...
Think of this scenario ? fed turns dovish on rates ? trump calls ceasefire w Chiina ? pboc keeps cutting rates ? semi stocks stabilize ? s&p hits 15 percents from here ...
Not saying above happens but there is decent probability it does ? you will kick yourself for not having acted and being stuck in analysis paralysis when rates were low and you could have negotiated a great discounted deal for yourself
Again, maybe because you guys don't align politically shouldn't detract from the point of his post that rate fluctuation is very hard to predict based on politics.
Do you agree or disagree with that? And does that same principal apply to the Dow?
The intent? Don?t you see what they are doing? Trying to mislead people. Lies after lies or don?t give all the facts/spin the story to fit their message. Just like the middle tax break before the midterms that never happened. I?m sorry I?m going to call it out.
fortune11 said:I am not a housing expert and I always defer to domain specialists like usc , sgip, cv, eyephone, iho , Mety, etc that have far more micro level color than I do - I attempt to learn from all of the comments they post
What I have a good sense for based on my own knowledge, job experience and how asset prices move , is the macro data and ?beta ? ... hence my calls re interest rates and equity markets , munis, and tresury bonds, junk bonds , which if you have been following me carefully ( and not blindly attacking like some of the maga crowd does) , you should have made decent returns
Now back on housing ? I have been following the beta rally in home builders and coupled with the super dovish fed which will give another much needed support to the economy , is indicating something re housing market that should not be ignored. My sense is builders are now heavily motivated to cut prices and move inventory which should lead to a volume pickup which will more than offset the price drop to make up better earnings growth
Again, just saying it like it is . I don?t do calendar year or point in time forecasts as that is not a practically useful exercise from a personal finance perspective.
eyephone said:Will there be a deal or no deal regrding the tariffs?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/us-markets-as-higher-tariffs-on-chinese-goods-kick-in.htmlStocks pared some of the losses after Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said China trade talks are done for the day, but they were "constructive." The Dow was down 358 points at its intraday low.