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[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249381153][quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249380905][quote author="PANDA" date=1249362529]

I started to crack up when he told me what his real last name is. Think "Hulk Hogan", "Andre the Giant", "WWF"!</blockquote>


Too funny. T, thanks to Panda, I now have a picture of you in spandex ingrained in my head.</blockquote>
Oh come on, you knew my last name 6 months before Panda did...and that WWF event didn't once come to mind at all???</blockquote>


No not at all. But, now if we every get a chance to go out and view houses again I expect you to come in your suit. :) Maybe you missed your calling?
 
[quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249381420]

No not at all. But, now if we every get a chance to go out and view houses again I expect you to come in your suit. :) Maybe you missed your calling?</blockquote>


Why am I suddenly imagining Perez Hilton as Nacho Libre?



The resemblance is striking.
 
quote author="caycifish" date="1249384087"][quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249381420]

No not at all. But, now if we every get a chance to go out and view houses again I expect you to come in your suit. :) Maybe you missed your calling?</blockquote>


Why am I suddenly imagining Perez Hilton as Nacho Libre?



The resemblance is striking.</blockquote>


<span style="color: purple;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">OMG</span></span>
 
[quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249384476]T, this is what happens when you start one of those 'put yourself out there' threads.</blockquote>
Having been raised by my feisty mom has created some really thick skin. :cheese:
 
[quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249380905][quote author="PANDA" date=1249362529]

I started to crack up when he told me what his real last name is. Think "Hulk Hogan", "Andre the Giant", "WWF"!</blockquote>


Too funny. T, thanks to Panda, I now have a picture of you in spandex ingrained in my head.</blockquote>


Yeah... thanks Panda... I just threw up in my mouth a little bit with that image. You too Mc80, that was just <strong>WRONG</strong>!
 
[quote author="graphrix" date=1249385356][quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249380905][quote author="PANDA" date=1249362529]

I started to crack up when he told me what his real last name is. Think "Hulk Hogan", "Andre the Giant", "WWF"!</blockquote>


Too funny. T, thanks to Panda, I now have a picture of you in spandex ingrained in my head.</blockquote>


Yeah... thanks Panda... I just threw up in my mouth a little bit with that image. You too Mc80, that was just <strong>WRONG</strong>!</blockquote>


But your girl gets a free pass? :P
 
[quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249385905]But your girl gets a free pass? :P</blockquote>


Hell no! I just now am getting why that even came up... Nacho Libre... so wrong! I'm a little slow, so she is making fun of me. But seriously... t-man does look like Perez Hilton... and as Perez would say... t-man looks fabulous!
 
[quote author="graphrix" date=1249392569][quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249385905]But your girl gets a free pass? :P</blockquote>


Hell no! I just now am getting why that even came up... Nacho Libre... so wrong! I'm a little slow, so she is making fun of me. But seriously... t-man does look like Perez Hilton... and as Perez would say... t-man looks fabulous!</blockquote>


Haha.. dude that's funny. Trojan does sort of look like Perez Hilton. hahaha.



<img src="http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/dvistawa/perezhilton.jpg" alt="" />
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1249420970][quote author="graphrix" date=1249392569][quote author="Mcdonna1980" date=1249385905]But your girl gets a free pass? :P</blockquote>


Hell no! I just now am getting why that even came up... Nacho Libre... so wrong! I'm a little slow, so she is making fun of me. But seriously... t-man does look like Perez Hilton... and as Perez would say... t-man looks fabulous!</blockquote>


Haha.. dude that's funny. Trojan does sort of look like Perez Hilton. hahaha.



<img src="http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/dvistawa/perezhilton.jpg" alt="" /></blockquote>
Minus the blue hair (I have way better hair) and flamboyant style. You guys are too much. haha



Btw, I always thought I looked more like the taller version of Tony Stewart (NASCAR racer).
 
Back to topic a little...



I take a walk with my son every morning... the time varies, but always between 7:30 to about 9... I see the usual people leave for work every day.. They get in their cars and head off...



Now I say only about half to about 60% leave. There are about 40% of the apartment that never leave. I work from home and I know... There are people that park in the same stall all week. They are the same people, week over week you see waking up at 11-12 in the morning and do their daily chores.



I say there are about 3-4 neighbors I can count from my balcony that stay home ALL day! What do these people do? Now I know that with the economy there are a lot of unemployed, sure, a lot of stay at home moms. But I'm guessing a lot of people are find that "gray" area in this economy where they are not an employee and not exactly self-employed like me.



I heard a great piece on the radio yesterday... that the consultants, temp execs, contractors and just entrepreneurs are going to stay because the companies are not going to hire back any of them anytime soon.



If you can make it in this economy, you can make it anywhere... I left the corporate world after 911, and never looked back...



Anybody else...
 
Left corporate environment in '03. Just not for me. Seen companies letting people go a few years before retirement. I can't imagine myself in my late 50's then being let go. I suppose some can try and stay put for 30 years or so, hoping not to be let go. But the odds of being let go before 30 yrs. of service is just too great for me.
 
[quote author="roundcorners" date=1249425738]Back to topic a little...



I take a walk with my son every morning... the time varies, but always between 7:30 to about 9... I see the usual people leave for work every day.. They get in their cars and head off...



Now I say only about half to about 60% leave. There are about 40% of the apartment that never leave. I work from home and I know... There are people that park in the same stall all week. They are the same people, week over week you see waking up at 11-12 in the morning and do their daily chores.



I say there are about 3-4 neighbors I can count from my balcony that stay home ALL day! What do these people do? Now I know that with the economy there are a lot of unemployed, sure, a lot of stay at home moms. But I'm guessing a lot of people are find that "gray" area in this economy where they are not an employee and not exactly self-employed like me.



<strong>I heard a great piece on the radio yesterday... that the consultants, temp execs, contractors and just entrepreneurs are going to stay because the companies are not going to hire back any of them anytime soon.</strong>



If you can make it in this economy, you can make it anywhere... I left the corporate world after 911, and never looked back...



Anybody else...</blockquote>
That is exactly the reason why I'm very seriously considering starting up my own business. After about 10 years of working in larger corporations and having to deal with all of the office politics and drama while making sure you kissed up to those people that could watch your back I'm really over it. The consulting project really openned my eyes to how much less BS consultants and small business owners have to deal with. Sure there is a lot more uncertainty with being a small business owner and/or a consultant, but there isn't that much more certainty in being a corporate monkey. A lot of times people get let go from companies because they aren't liked or protected instead of bad performance.
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249430256][quote author="roundcorners" date=1249425738]Back to topic a little...



I take a walk with my son every morning... the time varies, but always between 7:30 to about 9... I see the usual people leave for work every day.. They get in their cars and head off...



Now I say only about half to about 60% leave. There are about 40% of the apartment that never leave. I work from home and I know... There are people that park in the same stall all week. They are the same people, week over week you see waking up at 11-12 in the morning and do their daily chores.



I say there are about 3-4 neighbors I can count from my balcony that stay home ALL day! What do these people do? Now I know that with the economy there are a lot of unemployed, sure, a lot of stay at home moms. But I'm guessing a lot of people are find that "gray" area in this economy where they are not an employee and not exactly self-employed like me.



<strong>I heard a great piece on the radio yesterday... that the consultants, temp execs, contractors and just entrepreneurs are going to stay because the companies are not going to hire back any of them anytime soon.</strong>



If you can make it in this economy, you can make it anywhere... I left the corporate world after 911, and never looked back...



Anybody else...</blockquote>
That is exactly the reason why I'm very seriously considering starting up my own business. After about 10 years of working in larger corporations and having to deal with all of the office politics and drama while making sure you kissed up to those people that could watch your back I'm really over it. The consulting project really openned my eyes to how much less BS consultants and small business owners have to deal with. Sure there is a lot more uncertainty with being a small business owner and/or a consultant, but there isn't that much more certainty in being a corporate monkey. A lot of times people get let go from companies because they aren't liked or protected instead of bad performance.</blockquote>


I have the seniority to many off ramps so let me know if you are interested in the busy one where the FCB throw you the Benjamins. I will cut you a good deal.
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249430256][quote author="roundcorners" date=1249425738]Back to topic a little...



I take a walk with my son every morning... the time varies, but always between 7:30 to about 9... I see the usual people leave for work every day.. They get in their cars and head off...



Now I say only about half to about 60% leave. There are about 40% of the apartment that never leave. I work from home and I know... There are people that park in the same stall all week. They are the same people, week over week you see waking up at 11-12 in the morning and do their daily chores.



I say there are about 3-4 neighbors I can count from my balcony that stay home ALL day! What do these people do? Now I know that with the economy there are a lot of unemployed, sure, a lot of stay at home moms. But I'm guessing a lot of people are find that "gray" area in this economy where they are not an employee and not exactly self-employed like me.



<strong>I heard a great piece on the radio yesterday... that the consultants, temp execs, contractors and just entrepreneurs are going to stay because the companies are not going to hire back any of them anytime soon.</strong>



If you can make it in this economy, you can make it anywhere... I left the corporate world after 911, and never looked back...



Anybody else...</blockquote>
That is exactly the reason why I'm very seriously considering starting up my own business. After about 10 years of working in larger corporations and having to deal with all of the office politics and drama while making sure you kissed up to those people that could watch your back I'm really over it. The consulting project really openned my eyes to how much less BS consultants and small business owners have to deal with. Sure there is a lot more uncertainty with being a small business owner and/or a consultant, but there isn't that much more certainty in being a corporate monkey. A lot of times people get let go from companies because they aren't liked or protected instead of bad performance.</blockquote>


I had a sterotype in mind that everyone in OC are entrepeneurs but i personally know of 1-2 people who have a small business they are operating. Most of the people i know in OC are corporate. I am curious to what keeps people from starting their own business in Irvine? I mean it can be small as operating a small home based business, which also comes with a lot of tax advantages. Is it the fear of failing?, Is it the lack of capital?, not being sure what type of business to start?, high California taxes for small business owners. I know that my biggest fear is the high costs (hiring employees and high Cali Tax) of doing business in Irvine. And again, you probably can get access to the most talented and creative labor pool in OC.
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1249434277][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249430256][quote author="roundcorners" date=1249425738]Back to topic a little...



I take a walk with my son every morning... the time varies, but always between 7:30 to about 9... I see the usual people leave for work every day.. They get in their cars and head off...



Now I say only about half to about 60% leave. There are about 40% of the apartment that never leave. I work from home and I know... There are people that park in the same stall all week. They are the same people, week over week you see waking up at 11-12 in the morning and do their daily chores.



I say there are about 3-4 neighbors I can count from my balcony that stay home ALL day! What do these people do? Now I know that with the economy there are a lot of unemployed, sure, a lot of stay at home moms. But I'm guessing a lot of people are find that "gray" area in this economy where they are not an employee and not exactly self-employed like me.



<strong>I heard a great piece on the radio yesterday... that the consultants, temp execs, contractors and just entrepreneurs are going to stay because the companies are not going to hire back any of them anytime soon.</strong>



If you can make it in this economy, you can make it anywhere... I left the corporate world after 911, and never looked back...



Anybody else...</blockquote>
That is exactly the reason why I'm very seriously considering starting up my own business. After about 10 years of working in larger corporations and having to deal with all of the office politics and drama while making sure you kissed up to those people that could watch your back I'm really over it. The consulting project really openned my eyes to how much less BS consultants and small business owners have to deal with. Sure there is a lot more uncertainty with being a small business owner and/or a consultant, but there isn't that much more certainty in being a corporate monkey. A lot of times people get let go from companies because they aren't liked or protected instead of bad performance.</blockquote>


I had a sterotype in mind that everyone in OC are entrepeneurs but i personally know of 1-2 people who have a small business they are operating. Most of the people i know in OC are corporate. I am curious to what keeps people from starting their own business in Irvine? I mean it can be small as operating a small home based business, which also comes with a lot of tax advantages. Is it the fear of failing?, Is it the lack of capital?, not being sure what type of business to start?, high California taxes for small business owners. I know that my biggest fear is the high costs (hiring employees and high Cali Tax) of doing business in Irvine. And again, you probably can get access to the most talented and creative labor pool in OC.</blockquote>


If you plan on being a boss in Irvine then I suggest you getting a Firewall software to ban porns and IHB. Otherwise your office would have no productivity.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1249434477][quote author="PANDA" date=1249434277][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249430256][quote author="roundcorners" date=1249425738]Back to topic a little...



I take a walk with my son every morning... the time varies, but always between 7:30 to about 9... I see the usual people leave for work every day.. They get in their cars and head off...



Now I say only about half to about 60% leave. There are about 40% of the apartment that never leave. I work from home and I know... There are people that park in the same stall all week. They are the same people, week over week you see waking up at 11-12 in the morning and do their daily chores.



I say there are about 3-4 neighbors I can count from my balcony that stay home ALL day! What do these people do? Now I know that with the economy there are a lot of unemployed, sure, a lot of stay at home moms. But I'm guessing a lot of people are find that "gray" area in this economy where they are not an employee and not exactly self-employed like me.



<strong>I heard a great piece on the radio yesterday... that the consultants, temp execs, contractors and just entrepreneurs are going to stay because the companies are not going to hire back any of them anytime soon.</strong>



If you can make it in this economy, you can make it anywhere... I left the corporate world after 911, and never looked back...



Anybody else...</blockquote>
That is exactly the reason why I'm very seriously considering starting up my own business. After about 10 years of working in larger corporations and having to deal with all of the office politics and drama while making sure you kissed up to those people that could watch your back I'm really over it. The consulting project really openned my eyes to how much less BS consultants and small business owners have to deal with. Sure there is a lot more uncertainty with being a small business owner and/or a consultant, but there isn't that much more certainty in being a corporate monkey. A lot of times people get let go from companies because they aren't liked or protected instead of bad performance.</blockquote>


I had a sterotype in mind that everyone in OC are entrepeneurs but i personally know of 1-2 people who have a small business they are operating. Most of the people i know in OC are corporate. I am curious to what keeps people from starting their own business in Irvine? I mean it can be small as operating a small home based business, which also comes with a lot of tax advantages. Is it the fear of failing?, Is it the lack of capital?, not being sure what type of business to start?, high California taxes for small business owners. I know that my biggest fear is the high costs (hiring employees and high Cali Tax) of doing business in Irvine. And again, you probably can get access to the most talented and creative labor pool in OC.</blockquote>


If you plan on being a boss in Irvine then I suggest you getting a Firewall software to ban porns and IHB. Otherwise your office would have no productivity.</blockquote>


No problems here as all my employees are overseas. I have a direct Webex access to their screens so they will have serious problems with me if they are accessing porn during company time.
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1249434277]

I am curious to what keeps people from starting their own business in Irvine? I mean it can be small as operating a small home based business, which also comes with a lot of tax advantages. Is it the fear of failing?, Is it the lack of capital?, not being sure what type of business to start?, high California taxes for small business owners. I know that my biggest fear is the high costs (hiring employees and high Cali Tax) of doing business in Irvine. And again, you probably can get access to the most talented and creative labor pool in OC.</blockquote>


I'm a consultant for a large corporation, and here is why I don't start my own business in California:



40 hour work week (most of the time)

great benefits I don't have to worry about or do much research or negotiations to acquire

someone else does the sales work

paid vacation

paid sick time

I have enough to worry about; if it ain't broke don't fix it
 
My wife and I have talked about starting a second business. The big hangup is health insurance. Hangup isn't the right word, roadblock is more accurate.
 
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