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[quote author="reason" date=1249306425][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249305342][quote author="reason" date=1249305058][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249304818][quote author="reason" date=1249304359][quote author="qwerty" date=1249303981]CPA, no longer practice public accounting though. Currently Im the Director of Financial Reporting for a public company, so I oversee all of my company's SEC filings and am in charge of all technical accounting and research. I also oversee our internal audit department that performs SOX/operational/compliance audits.</blockquote>


Just one word. Impressive.</blockquote>
Exactly...compared to qwenty I have career ADD and sounds like I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. haha</blockquote>


Scman, and compare you to me. ....I am still in kindergarten. Haha.</blockquote>
No way man, I'm sure you got it going on just like qwenty but you are just being modest. Most of the people on here are intelligent and have interesting careers.



Btw, I have some El Pollo and La Salsa coupons that I need a second person to use (you know, those buy one get one free coupons) so lets have a mini-IHB meet. lol</blockquote>


Do you think I am that cheap, dude? Trying to bribe me with some coupons? hahaha!</blockquote>
YES and maybe.
 
But seriously. I'd my dream all planned out. And things just never go the way I planned it. There are those who are corporate climbing types. Then there are those who are not cut out for that. And what happens when you're not corporate material? What is left for you to do? You see friends pass you by with their careers. You see friends get marry and have kids. You see life pass you by and nothing to show.



Getting back to going out on your own. Without getting into the specifics. You start a business. You have dream and aspiration on the direction it's heading. Then the economy tanks. Ahhh, what the hell am I posting. Anyways,
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249306661][quote author="qwerty" date=1249305797][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249304556][quote author="qwerty" date=1249303981]CPA, no longer practice public accounting though. Currently Im the Director of Financial Reporting for a public company, so I oversee all of my company's SEC filings and am in charge of all technical accounting and research. I also oversee our internal audit department that performs SOX/operational/compliance audits.</blockquote>
Very cool, so you got a good handle on all the new FASBs that have come out over the past few years? Did you work at one of the Big 4 CPA firms? I wish I had stayed at PWC a bit longer (left after 4 years in 2001) to get SOX experience from the public accounting side. Do you work with/interact with your company's external auditors?</blockquote>


I am up to date on on all the FASBs, have to be. I used to work at a Big 4, left when i was a manager. I did a couple of years of 404 audits while i was still their, including the first year implementations, that was very helpful. I do interact with our external auditors for quarterly reviews, the year end audit and the SOX testing throughout the year.



Four years of public is pretty good, however, a lot of higher level accounting positions (controllers/financial reporting, etc) typically prefer that you have managerial experience at the Big 4, but with your CPA/MBA combo you should be able to overcome that should that be the avenue you wish to pursue, although you seem to be well suited for a high level finance role, more than an accounting type role based on your experience. I used to tell all my buddies when a bunch of us started out together in the Big 4 that they should stay and do at least one year as manager. None of them listened to me, now their climb to the top will be much longer and harder. I am much more accomplished than they are at the age of 32, for the majority of them to get close to where i am now they will probably be closer to 40 is my guess. All they had to was be patient in the beginning of their career for the bigger payoff down the road, but they chose to get more money in the beginning, not realizing they were stunting their career growth and future earnings potential. Now they are way behind what i make.



Given my work experience hopefully the next role in a couple of years is some sort of VP role at a larger public company or potentially a CFO role (likely a smaller or same size as the company im at), although given my age i think the CFO role will likely have to wait until im closer to 40 so employers feel more comfortable with my age. Not many companies are going to make a 35 year old a CFO.</blockquote>
You make a great point, looking back at things I should have stayed that extra 18-24 months and gotten that manager title under my belt but I just didn't see the appeal at the time to stay any longer as I was getting a bit burned out on public accounting. One of my friends even brought up the idea that maybe I should consider going back to school to get my MBT from USC because getting a job on the tax side is so much easier than the accounting/finance side (hell no am I spending another $50k and going back to school, if I'm gonna do that I might as well go to pharm school). I'll also say that the consulting job has really made me seriously think about starting up my own company since I really feel that I can provide a value added service to small business owners given my accounting/tax/banking experience. I mean, I don't have to deal with the office drama and corporate politics that you have to deal with in the corporate environment which is very refreshing to me because I've worked at larger companies since entering the work force. Another reason why I'm really leaning towards starting my own consulting business is that after talking to a few search firms, the highest level position I can hope for even with the CPA in hand is a senior accountant/senior financial analyst position since I made the shift into the commercial real estate lending world after public accounting. And then there was Panda asking me about why I don't become a full-time realtor this weekend. I guess you can say I'm sorta at a major crossroads in my professional career but if you had to pin me down I'd say that I want to either run my own business or become a CFO.</blockquote>


Go for the CFO. Ive never had the guts to start my own consulting, more power to you if you do. Seems the odds of making it big that way are pretty slim. Not to mention going out and soliciting clients is not something i would want to do. While your buddy is correct that good tax folks are in high demand, even with an MBT you are still looking at entry level tax stuff given your background, like you said, not worth another 50K in schooling costs in my opinion. You should just get a law degree, finish off your CPA, then you would have a JD/MBA/CPA and you can go be a sports agent and live the high life. Back when i was younger i gave that some serious thought, but never pulled the trigger.
 
[quote author="reason" date=1249307402]But seriously. I'd my dream all planned out. And things just never go the way I planned it. There are those who are corporate climbing types. Then there are those who are not cut out for that. And what happens when you're not corporate material? What is left for you to do? You see friends pass you by with their careers. You see friends get marry and have kids. You see life pass you by and nothing to show.



Getting back to going out on your own. Without getting into the specifics. You start a business. You have dream and aspiration on the direction it's heading. Then the economy tanks. Ahhh, what the hell am I posting. Anyways,</blockquote>
As my grandpa used to tell me all the time...turn the negative energy around into positive energy. True character really comes out through adversity. I was living the fast life when I was making a very good living in banking and then the rug got pulled out from underneath my feet. Life has a way of humbling you and getting laidoff and being unemployed really made me step back and take a serious look at my life, including getting rid of the BS and significantly reducing my living expenses. Remember that the grass isn't always greener on the other side...a number of my friends who used to have that "perfect" family are now in messy divorces. I've worked for about 10 years in the corporate world and I'll tell you that it gets old and tiring having to do the office drama/politics song and dance.
 
[quote author="qwerty" date=1249308405][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249306661][quote author="qwerty" date=1249305797][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249304556][quote author="qwerty" date=1249303981]CPA, no longer practice public accounting though. Currently Im the Director of Financial Reporting for a public company, so I oversee all of my company's SEC filings and am in charge of all technical accounting and research. I also oversee our internal audit department that performs SOX/operational/compliance audits.</blockquote>
Very cool, so you got a good handle on all the new FASBs that have come out over the past few years? Did you work at one of the Big 4 CPA firms? I wish I had stayed at PWC a bit longer (left after 4 years in 2001) to get SOX experience from the public accounting side. Do you work with/interact with your company's external auditors?</blockquote>


I am up to date on on all the FASBs, have to be. I used to work at a Big 4, left when i was a manager. I did a couple of years of 404 audits while i was still their, including the first year implementations, that was very helpful. I do interact with our external auditors for quarterly reviews, the year end audit and the SOX testing throughout the year.



Four years of public is pretty good, however, a lot of higher level accounting positions (controllers/financial reporting, etc) typically prefer that you have managerial experience at the Big 4, but with your CPA/MBA combo you should be able to overcome that should that be the avenue you wish to pursue, although you seem to be well suited for a high level finance role, more than an accounting type role based on your experience. I used to tell all my buddies when a bunch of us started out together in the Big 4 that they should stay and do at least one year as manager. None of them listened to me, now their climb to the top will be much longer and harder. I am much more accomplished than they are at the age of 32, for the majority of them to get close to where i am now they will probably be closer to 40 is my guess. All they had to was be patient in the beginning of their career for the bigger payoff down the road, but they chose to get more money in the beginning, not realizing they were stunting their career growth and future earnings potential. Now they are way behind what i make.



Given my work experience hopefully the next role in a couple of years is some sort of VP role at a larger public company or potentially a CFO role (likely a smaller or same size as the company im at), although given my age i think the CFO role will likely have to wait until im closer to 40 so employers feel more comfortable with my age. Not many companies are going to make a 35 year old a CFO.</blockquote>
You make a great point, looking back at things I should have stayed that extra 18-24 months and gotten that manager title under my belt but I just didn't see the appeal at the time to stay any longer as I was getting a bit burned out on public accounting. One of my friends even brought up the idea that maybe I should consider going back to school to get my MBT from USC because getting a job on the tax side is so much easier than the accounting/finance side (hell no am I spending another $50k and going back to school, if I'm gonna do that I might as well go to pharm school). I'll also say that the consulting job has really made me seriously think about starting up my own company since I really feel that I can provide a value added service to small business owners given my accounting/tax/banking experience. I mean, I don't have to deal with the office drama and corporate politics that you have to deal with in the corporate environment which is very refreshing to me because I've worked at larger companies since entering the work force. Another reason why I'm really leaning towards starting my own consulting business is that after talking to a few search firms, the highest level position I can hope for even with the CPA in hand is a senior accountant/senior financial analyst position since I made the shift into the commercial real estate lending world after public accounting. And then there was Panda asking me about why I don't become a full-time realtor this weekend. I guess you can say I'm sorta at a major crossroads in my professional career but if you had to pin me down I'd say that I want to either run my own business or become a CFO.</blockquote>


Go for the CFO. Ive never had the guts to start my own consulting, more power to you if you do. Seems the odds of making it big that way are pretty slim. Not to mention going out and soliciting clients is not something i would want to do. While your buddy is correct that good tax folks are in high demand, even with an MBT you are still looking at entry level tax stuff given your background, like you said, not worth another 50K in schooling costs in my opinion. You should just get a law degree, finish off your CPA, then you would have a JD/MBA/CPA and you can go be a sports agent and live the high life. Back when i was younger i gave that some serious thought, but never pulled the trigger.</blockquote>
Hummm, don't think the thought of being the next Ari Gold or Drew Rosenhaus hasn't crossed my mind but I do know I'm not cut out for law school. I think I'm too analytical too survive 3 grueling years of law school and then trying to pass the bar. I guess 2010 will be a very interesting year for me because that's when I really need to pick the road I'll be going down career wise.
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249308655][quote author="reason" date=1249307402]But seriously. I'd my dream all planned out. And things just never go the way I planned it. There are those who are corporate climbing types. Then there are those who are not cut out for that. And what happens when you're not corporate material? What is left for you to do? You see friends pass you by with their careers. You see friends get marry and have kids. You see life pass you by and nothing to show.



Getting back to going out on your own. Without getting into the specifics. You start a business. You have dream and aspiration on the direction it's heading. Then the economy tanks. Ahhh, what the hell am I posting. Anyways,</blockquote>
As my grandpa used to tell me all the time...turn the negative energy around into positive energy. True character really comes out through adversity. I was living the fast life when I was making a very good living in banking and then the rug got pulled out from underneath my feet. Life has a way of humbling you and getting laidoff and being unemployed really made me step back and take a serious look at my life, including getting rid of the BS and significantly reducing my living expenses. Remember that the grass isn't always greener on the other side...a number of my friends who used to have that "perfect" family are now in messy divorces. I've worked for about 10 years in the corporate world and I'll tell you that it gets old and tiring having to do the office drama/politics song and dance.</blockquote>


Thanks for sharing that, Scman. There's a reason why I have been following your posts. And it's not about the coupons, my friend. Without getting girly girly about this. I see some similiarity in your situation and mine. I am at a crossroad. And it's time to decide which path to take, again. I am at that age where I have to catch up. It's scary b/c this time it's do or die.
 
Scman, and don't ask me which path I've decide on. If only u knew, you'ld burst out laughing. And no, I am not choosing the path of a McD's night shift manager. Hahaha!
 
Software/database engineer in Irvine. Yes, the girls do dig it.



Seriously though, I work for a company in the health care industry so luckily the economy hasn't affected us too much. I also do some consulting on the side and that's pretty good money when I can get it, and all of that extra scratch is going towards my future down payment. I live fairly frugally so I save at a pretty good clip. It's the Asian side in me :) Right now I am trying to get promoted at work to a team lead position, which I would be thrilled with. I'll stay here as long as I'm moving forward with my career at the pace I want.



It's not the sexiest way to make a living, but I actually really enjoy what I do so I can't complain.
 
[quote author="reason" date=1249309481][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249308655][quote author="reason" date=1249307402]But seriously. I'd my dream all planned out. And things just never go the way I planned it. There are those who are corporate climbing types. Then there are those who are not cut out for that. And what happens when you're not corporate material? What is left for you to do? You see friends pass you by with their careers. You see friends get marry and have kids. You see life pass you by and nothing to show.



Getting back to going out on your own. Without getting into the specifics. You start a business. You have dream and aspiration on the direction it's heading. Then the economy tanks. Ahhh, what the hell am I posting. Anyways,</blockquote>
As my grandpa used to tell me all the time...turn the negative energy around into positive energy. True character really comes out through adversity. I was living the fast life when I was making a very good living in banking and then the rug got pulled out from underneath my feet. Life has a way of humbling you and getting laidoff and being unemployed really made me step back and take a serious look at my life, including getting rid of the BS and significantly reducing my living expenses. Remember that the grass isn't always greener on the other side...a number of my friends who used to have that "perfect" family are now in messy divorces. I've worked for about 10 years in the corporate world and I'll tell you that it gets old and tiring having to do the office drama/politics song and dance.</blockquote>


Thanks for sharing that, Scman. There's a reason why I have been following your posts. And it's not about the coupons, my friend. Without getting girly girly about this. I see some similiarity in your situation and mine. I am at a crossroad. And it's time to decide which path to take, again. I am at that age where I have to catch up. It's scary b/c this time it's do or die.</blockquote>
I guess you can say I'm probably more of an "open book" sort of people than most people on the forum. I don't mind sharing some personal information about myself with the rest of you guys because maybe some of you guys will be able to take something positive away from it. I really hope people don't think I'm trying to brag or throw anything that I've done or am doing in people's face to try to somehow prove myself to them or that I'm better than anyone else. At the end of the day no license, certificate, degree, job will ever define who I am. As my mom's boyfriend told me, I'm just filling up my "toolbox" for the future. That being said, I need to pick a path for myself eventually but one that will be self rewarding to me.
 
[quote author="reason" date=1249310111]Scman, and don't ask me which path I've decide on. If only u knew, you'ld burst out laughing. And no, I am not choosing the path of a McD's night shift manager. Hahaha!</blockquote>
Haha Better than my former dream job of being a casino and/or strip club owner.
 
[quote author="irvinehapa" date=1249310187]Software/database engineer in Irvine. Yes, the girls do dig it.



Seriously though, I work for a company in the health care industry so luckily the economy hasn't affected us too much. I also do some consulting on the side and that's pretty good money when I can get it, and all of that extra scratch is going towards my future down payment. I live fairly frugally so I save at a pretty good clip. It's the Asian side in me :) Right now I am trying to get promoted at work to a team lead position, which I would be thrilled with. I'll stay here as long as I'm moving forward with my career at the pace I want.



It's not the sexiest way to make a living, but I actually really enjoy what I do so I can't complain.</blockquote>
Chicks dig IT! I just hope they dig the CPA. haha At the end of the day, it really is all about whether you enjoy what you do for a living. Believe me, I would rather have my finger and toe nails pulled off slowly than work making big money doing something that I don't like or working with people that I can't stand. Life is really too short for that because all of that negative environment will have an adverse effect on your personal life (I know because I quit my job at a community bank because it was full of backstabbers, office drama, and micro-managing bosses).
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249310391][quote author="reason" date=1249309481][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249308655][quote author="reason" date=1249307402]But seriously. I'd my dream all planned out. And things just never go the way I planned it. There are those who are corporate climbing types. Then there are those who are not cut out for that. And what happens when you're not corporate material? What is left for you to do? You see friends pass you by with their careers. You see friends get marry and have kids. You see life pass you by and nothing to show.



Getting back to going out on your own. Without getting into the specifics. You start a business. You have dream and aspiration on the direction it's heading. Then the economy tanks. Ahhh, what the hell am I posting. Anyways,</blockquote>
As my grandpa used to tell me all the time...turn the negative energy around into positive energy. True character really comes out through adversity. I was living the fast life when I was making a very good living in banking and then the rug got pulled out from underneath my feet. Life has a way of humbling you and getting laidoff and being unemployed really made me step back and take a serious look at my life, including getting rid of the BS and significantly reducing my living expenses. Remember that the grass isn't always greener on the other side...a number of my friends who used to have that "perfect" family are now in messy divorces. I've worked for about 10 years in the corporate world and I'll tell you that it gets old and tiring having to do the office drama/politics song and dance.</blockquote>


Thanks for sharing that, Scman. There's a reason why I have been following your posts. And it's not about the coupons, my friend. Without getting girly girly about this. I see some similiarity in your situation and mine. I am at a crossroad. And it's time to decide which path to take, again. I am at that age where I have to catch up. It's scary b/c this time it's do or die.</blockquote>
I guess you can say I'm probably more of an "open door" sort of people than most people on the forum. I don't mind sharing some personal information about myself with the rest of you guys because maybe some of you guys will be able to take something positive away from it. I really hope people don't think I'm trying to brag or throw the anything that I've done in people's face to try to somehow prove myself to them or that I'm better than anyone else. At the end of the day no license, certificate, degree, job will ever define who I am. As my mom's boyfriend told me, I'm just filling up my "toolbox" for the future. That being said, I need to pick a path for myself eventually but one that will be self rewarding to me.</blockquote>


Yes, surprisingly. What you have shared on this forum re: your personal journey. I have also gone through in similar ways. It seems like you're choosing the accounting/finance field over real estate. Care to share your reason(s) for choosing one over the other?
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1249310948]reason and usc:



Get a room.



Kidding... but man... trade Instant Messaging handles and have your bromantic discussions in private.



(and yes... I am jealous)</blockquote>


Hahaha!....I didn't think anyone else was up this late.
 
[quote author="reason" date=1249311077][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1249310948]reason and usc:



Get a room.



Kidding... but man... trade Instant Messaging handles and have your bromantic discussions in private.



(and yes... I am jealous)</blockquote>


Hahaha!....I didn't think anyone else was up this late.</blockquote>


Plus, even in IM. It's monitored. So why not just have it in the open. =)
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1249310948]reason and usc:



Get a room.



Kidding... but man... trade Instant Messaging handles and have your bromantic discussions in private.



(and yes... I am jealous)</blockquote>
You are just jealous that you don't have the same kind of bromance relationship with Graph and BK like I have with reason? Admit it, you and Graph sorta have a love/grumpy pants bromance where as you and Bk have a student/teacher bromance. :P
 
[quote author="reason" date=1249311077][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1249310948]reason and usc:



Get a room.



Kidding... but man... trade Instant Messaging handles and have your bromantic discussions in private.



(and yes... I am jealous)</blockquote>


Hahaha!....I didn't think anyone else was up this late.</blockquote>
It's threads like these that rack up my post court...I will be over taking IPO for the title of #7 IHB post whore within hours.



Edit....just over took him about 10 minutes after I posted this reply. haha
 
[quote author="reason" date=1249310958][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249310391][quote author="reason" date=1249309481][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249308655][quote author="reason" date=1249307402]But seriously. I'd my dream all planned out. And things just never go the way I planned it. There are those who are corporate climbing types. Then there are those who are not cut out for that. And what happens when you're not corporate material? What is left for you to do? You see friends pass you by with their careers. You see friends get marry and have kids. You see life pass you by and nothing to show.



Getting back to going out on your own. Without getting into the specifics. You start a business. You have dream and aspiration on the direction it's heading. Then the economy tanks. Ahhh, what the hell am I posting. Anyways,</blockquote>
As my grandpa used to tell me all the time...turn the negative energy around into positive energy. True character really comes out through adversity. I was living the fast life when I was making a very good living in banking and then the rug got pulled out from underneath my feet. Life has a way of humbling you and getting laidoff and being unemployed really made me step back and take a serious look at my life, including getting rid of the BS and significantly reducing my living expenses. Remember that the grass isn't always greener on the other side...a number of my friends who used to have that "perfect" family are now in messy divorces. I've worked for about 10 years in the corporate world and I'll tell you that it gets old and tiring having to do the office drama/politics song and dance.</blockquote>


Thanks for sharing that, Scman. There's a reason why I have been following your posts. And it's not about the coupons, my friend. Without getting girly girly about this. I see some similiarity in your situation and mine. I am at a crossroad. And it's time to decide which path to take, again. I am at that age where I have to catch up. It's scary b/c this time it's do or die.</blockquote>
I guess you can say I'm probably more of an "open door" sort of people than most people on the forum. I don't mind sharing some personal information about myself with the rest of you guys because maybe some of you guys will be able to take something positive away from it. I really hope people don't think I'm trying to brag or throw the anything that I've done in people's face to try to somehow prove myself to them or that I'm better than anyone else. At the end of the day no license, certificate, degree, job will ever define who I am. As my mom's boyfriend told me, I'm just filling up my "toolbox" for the future. That being said, I need to pick a path for myself eventually but one that will be self rewarding to me.</blockquote>


Yes, surprisingly. What you have shared on this forum re: your personal journey. I have also gone through in similar ways. It seems like you're choosing the accounting/finance field over real estate. Care to share your reason(s) for choosing one over the other?</blockquote>
Great question....let me sleep on it.
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249311597][quote author="reason" date=1249310958][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249310391][quote author="reason" date=1249309481][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1249308655][quote author="reason" date=1249307402]But seriously. I'd my dream all planned out. And things just never go the way I planned it. There are those who are corporate climbing types. Then there are those who are not cut out for that. And what happens when you're not corporate material? What is left for you to do? You see friends pass you by with their careers. You see friends get marry and have kids. You see life pass you by and nothing to show.



Getting back to going out on your own. Without getting into the specifics. You start a business. You have dream and aspiration on the direction it's heading. Then the economy tanks. Ahhh, what the hell am I posting. Anyways,</blockquote>
As my grandpa used to tell me all the time...turn the negative energy around into positive energy. True character really comes out through adversity. I was living the fast life when I was making a very good living in banking and then the rug got pulled out from underneath my feet. Life has a way of humbling you and getting laidoff and being unemployed really made me step back and take a serious look at my life, including getting rid of the BS and significantly reducing my living expenses. Remember that the grass isn't always greener on the other side...a number of my friends who used to have that "perfect" family are now in messy divorces. I've worked for about 10 years in the corporate world and I'll tell you that it gets old and tiring having to do the office drama/politics song and dance.</blockquote>


Thanks for sharing that, Scman. There's a reason why I have been following your posts. And it's not about the coupons, my friend. Without getting girly girly about this. I see some similiarity in your situation and mine. I am at a crossroad. And it's time to decide which path to take, again. I am at that age where I have to catch up. It's scary b/c this time it's do or die.</blockquote>
I guess you can say I'm probably more of an "open door" sort of people than most people on the forum. I don't mind sharing some personal information about myself with the rest of you guys because maybe some of you guys will be able to take something positive away from it. I really hope people don't think I'm trying to brag or throw the anything that I've done in people's face to try to somehow prove myself to them or that I'm better than anyone else. At the end of the day no license, certificate, degree, job will ever define who I am. As my mom's boyfriend told me, I'm just filling up my "toolbox" for the future. That being said, I need to pick a path for myself eventually but one that will be self rewarding to me.</blockquote>


Yes, surprisingly. What you have shared on this forum re: your personal journey. I have also gone through in similar ways. It seems like you're choosing the accounting/finance field over real estate. Care to share your reason(s) for choosing one over the other?</blockquote>
Great question....let me sleep on it.</blockquote>


Same here....zzzz
 
Out of work feng shui fortune teller. Can't make an Irvine mortgage anymore. Moved to live among the illegals in Santa Ana. Blog on IHB to kill time between shifts at various off ramps. Nomadic lifestyle allow me to venture into the Irvine wilderness to take pictures. Last three temporary jobs were Icicle gun dealer, Food court van driver, and Stuntman trainer for Marriott.
 
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