New - Any TIC agreements are not in effect at VOC because that project is jointly owned by Lennar and Lyon.
Janet - I think they were selling well, but no so much now - with the exception of the condos and SFRs priced below $800K. Verandas took off mostly because Lyon hit the sweet spot of $600K to $750K. (<----- based on my observations, not hard numbers.) We drove around various portions of VOC on Saturday night after dinner (~ 7:30 pm) and it was really weird. I suspect that a good portion of the homes was bought for speculation because it seemed that only about 1 in 3 homes were inhabited. We then went to Portola Springs, and say what you will about the sales rate, but nearly all of the homes that were complete had people living in them. On the whole there were not many people, but of completed houses, very few were empty. I suppose it's possible that the folks in VOC were out on a Saturday night, as opposed to people just trying to make PITI in Portola Springs.