Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine

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eyephone said:
SoCal said:
So, fill me in. Why is having a veterans' cemetery such a big deal. HOW CLOSE IS TOO CLOSE? Sharing a fence with the homes? On the same street? Half a mile away? 5 miles away? In the same city? County? Portola Springs has homes built on top of Indian graves. There are absolutely, undoubtedly additional human remains under other Irvine & O.C. homes whether you realize it or not. Then, maybe it's not a distance issue but rather a time issue. If the person died last week, not okay. But if they died 300 years ago, now it's okay? At what arbitrary point does it suddenly go from "Not okay" to "OK"? Sounds kinda ridiculous to me.

Anyway, it's not like living next door to a crematorium. I imagine the veterans' cemetery would be done with pride and respect and probably a very peaceful, beautifully-maintained open space. But, hey, I'm not Asian, so...
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Just imagine hearing the 21 gun salute. Motorcade of cars by US agencies, news coverage, etc.

I'm just speculating.
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Oh, come now. A motorcade = slower traffic once in a while, for a brief period. Additional homes built instead of cemetery plots = traffic jams everyday. Like that's better?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Does yaliu live in PP or PS?

PP is soooo far from the cemetery this shouldn't even be an issue.
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I believe he lives in PP...it's the association with GP that I think is getting him.  I agree regarding distance...maybe ghosts don't cross streets.
 
They have cross the park, some streets and Portola Springs before they can get to PP (do I have that mapped right?):

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Good news though... Ghostbusters reboot in 2016... yaliu can call them. :) :) :)
 
irvinehomeowner said:
They have cross the park, some streets and Portola Springs before they can get to PP (do I have that mapped right?):

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Good news though... Ghostbusters reboot in 2016... yaliu can call them. :) :) :)
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If it's south of Irvine Blvd...it's nowhere near PS or PP...I thought it was south of Portola.  Now I have no idea what the concern is.
 
Yaliu - supporting the veterans cemetery is a great way for you to show you are assimilating into the American culture, you should strive to be a chinese American not a chinese person living in America :-)
 
Yaliu - get black ops 2 and play zombies. Explain to your children that you have to play the video game to gain experience to fight the zombies.

 
Let's see....

(OK) Military chem waste - legacy issue
(OK) High auto traffic smog and noise - current, and building
(OK) Agriculture pesticides - legacy issue as well as the newly applied
(OK) Down wind from a dump - ongoing.
(OK) Garden pesticides used by landscapers - ongoing
(Not OK) Military Cemetary.

"Google-fu" enough (hat tip, PS9) and you'll find info on just how many Native American remains were relocated from areas much closer to PP than where this expected cemetary will be constructed. I'm sure TIC didn't excavate every single corpse so know well that when out for a walk in the neighborhood and you hear a crunching underfoot, that sound might not be just from dry leaves.

In Irvine, expecially close to ancient water channels, have plenty of burial sites, yet no one seemed to care much about those as long as property values hold steady. A small-ish military cemetary is hardly something to be fretting over given what's already under most newly constructed slab foundations now.

My .02c. 
 
Grew up in WLA and Westwood and Bel Air pricing was always high regardless of the veterans cemetery right next to those towns.  Want to keep your property values high?  Invest in your community and keep making it a great place to live.  Outside factors that you can't control will always be lurking. 

I personally am not voting for it or against it...just don't care enough either way.

 
Back in 2010, I discovered a document at irvinequickrecords.com which spoke of human remains buried in the earth under Stonegate being disturbed by construction. Here is the link to that thread. (They yanked the document.)

A member in that thread replied that this was bad joojoo and FCBs would not like that. Everyone ask yourself if that turned out to be true.

 
eyephone said:
Just imagine hearing the 21 gun salute.
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Shots ringing out to honor a fallen soldier = not okay. Shots ringing out daily at the Portola Springs dump by workers firing to scare away the birds as they backfill = okay. Smh. I think people have their priorities messed up.
 
SoCal said:
eyephone said:
Just imagine hearing the 21 gun salute.
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Shots ringing out to honor a fallen soldier = not okay. Shots ringing out daily at the Orchard Hills dump by workers firing to scare away the birds as they backfill = okay. Smh. I think people have their priorities messed up.
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I googled 21 gun solute and came across a Wikipedia page.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-gun_salute

If you click the link, you will see a high powered cannon or military artillery firing.

So worst case scenario, Yaliu might wake up on a weekend to a high powered cannon or rifles going off.




 
SoCal said:
eyephone said:
Just imagine hearing the 21 gun salute.
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Shots ringing out to honor a fallen soldier = not okay. Shots ringing out daily at the Orchard Hills dump by workers firing to scare away the birds as they backfill = okay. Smh. I think people have their priorities messed up.
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The shots for birds accomplishes getting rid of the birds.  The shots for a fallen soldier are just continuing a tradition that we associate as respectful but nothing is being accomplished by shooting in the air.  Respect is good but traditions and customs can adapt and don't have to continue something. 
 
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