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so my future kids will go to the second best high school in irvine, but without the irvine price tag. that is what im talking about.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
All of Irvine highs schools were in the top 250 (they put Beckman High as an Irvine high school) in the US:

#29 University
#56 Beckman
#57 Northwood
#119 Irvine
#229 Woodbridge

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/rankings?name=school+name&schooltypepublic=y&county=irvine&state=ca

Full article:http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools
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haha! So house prices in my hood should match the prices across the street.. because they aren't special any more ;-)
 
Just an observation which has boggled my mine for years now:

When I moved back to Irvine in 2008 after spending some years in the I.E. where residents tried so hard to differentiate themselves from their I.E. brethren (i.e. "Chino Hilllllzzz" vs. "lowly Chino", I distinctly remember thinking, "At least it won't be like this in Irvine. Everyone will feel they are on equal footing no matter which part of Irvine they live in."

HAHAHAHA!! I didn't know then what I know now.

The truth is, residents everywhere try so very hard to differentiate themselves from everyone else by one-up'ing each other. No matter how good they got it, they want to be better. No matter how "far up" you move, keeping up with the Jones's never ends.

You would think at some point, everybody would say, "Good enough. We are all so blessed to live where we do. The comparisons can stop now and we can all be happy." As for me, I'm happy saying, "Check, please." and letting everyone else split hairs over Irvine API scores or state ranking. In the end, we all live in California whose public schools are none too impressive on a national basis.
 
SoCal said:
Just an observation which has boggled my mine for years now:

When I moved back to Irvine in 2008 after spending some years in the I.E. where residents tried so hard to differentiate themselves from their I.E. brethren (i.e. "Chino Hilllllzzz" vs. "lowly Chino", I distinctly remember thinking, "At least it won't be like this in Irvine. Everyone will feel they are on equal footing no matter which part of Irvine they live in."

HAHAHAHA!! I didn't know then what I know now.

The truth is, residents everywhere try so very hard to differentiate themselves from everyone else by one-up'ing each other. No matter how good they got it, they want to be better. No matter how "far up" you move, keeping up with the Jones's never ends.

You would think at some point, everybody would say, "Good enough. We are all so blessed to live where we do. The comparisons can stop now and we can all be happy." As for me, I'm happy saying, "Check, please." and letting everyone else split hairs over Irvine API scores or state ranking. In the end, we all live in California whose public schools are none too impressive on a national basis.
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LOL! If this is about my post, it was purely sarcasm :)
I don't care much about rank 56 or 57. But I do care about the over all API score, and who goes to that school..
 
SoCal said:
The truth is, residents everywhere try so very hard to differentiate themselves from everyone else by one-up'ing each other. No matter how good they got it, they want to be better. No matter how "far up" you move, keeping up with the Jones's never ends.
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The drive to improve and differentiate yourself captures the essence of the human evolutionary spirit, so that the next generation will be better off than the previous.
 
Here is the comprehensive list of top California Public schools. Take notice that the Bay area has 7 schools before University High in Irvine. FCBs in Northern California pays $600/sf and upward for homes. Irvine is a bargain comparatively.
 
Cubic Zirconia said:
I don't care much about rank 56 or 57. But I do care about the over all API score, and who goes to that school..
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isnt this kind of like saying "i dont care what my significant other looks like as long as he/she is 9 or 10"

not sure what you mean by you care about "who goes to that school" - you mean other than irvine raised asian/indian kids?
 
qwerty said:
Cubic Zirconia said:
I don't care much about rank 56 or 57. But I do care about the over all API score, and who goes to that school..
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isnt this kind of like saying "i dont care what my significant other looks like as long as he/she is 9 or 10"

not sure what you mean by you care about "who goes to that school" - you mean other than irvine raised asian/indian kids?
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Qwerty- That totally made my day!!  Need to buy you a drink my man!!
 
Qwerty, of course it is like that- I do care about standards:-) A 10 deserves a 10, if not 10, 9 will do.. would be damned if I lower my standards any further ;-) (that applies everywhere- every one will try to do the best they can.. but to stretch themselves thin to do what others are doing, that's not me)

Other kids going to that school.. I do look at racial profile, income level and parent education in the area (and test scores, and parent involvement and PTA/O).

Go enjoy Homer's drink, he seems to be very happy for something ;-) He is a nit picker himself, wouldn't settle for anything below 10.. not even a 9.9999999 ;-)
 
CZ - by your response to socals comment about irvine residents being snooty, you tried to imply that you are not snooty/elitist. But it kind of seems like you are based on your comments, well as long as you dont stretch too thin, but at heart it seems like you are. It doesn't matter to me if you are or you are not. Just own it, which based on your last post, you do own it. And I can respect that. Just don't  say one thing when you appear to be another.

Regarding the school thing, what annoys me is that it's almost as if you make low/lower income class kids to be second class citizens. And god forbid your kids have to go to that same school. The kids that tend to be the most successful in life are the ones who overcome adversity. You irvinites think sending your kids to the great irvine schools is going to set up your kid for life. I got news for you, your kids are going to be working for the kids from newport beach, or IHS's daughter, she has someone who won't shelter her.
 
qwerty said:
CZ - by your response to socals comment about irvine residents being snooty, you tried to imply that you are not snooty/elitist. But it kind of seems like you are based on your comments, well as long as you dont stretch too thin, but at heart it seems like you are. It doesn't matter to me if you are or you are not. Just own it, which based on your last post, you do own it. And I can respect that. Just don't  say one thing when you appear to be another.

Regarding the school thing, what annoys me is that it's almost as if you make low/lower income class kids to be second class citizens. And god forbid your kids have to go to that same school. The kids that tend to be the most successful in life are the ones who overcome adversity. You irvinites think sending your kids to the great irvine schools is going to set up your kid for life. I got news for you, your kids are going to be working for the kids from newport beach, or IHS's daughter, she has someone who won't shelter her.
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Wow! OK, lets not bring what my kids can/ cannot do in this thread. Whatever you have to say, you can say to me, and I will reply or not reply. But, in general, I don't like to do that other people's kids, and I don't like it when someone does it to my kids.

Anyone who has bought in Irvine has gone through a checklist of similar items. I don't have any issue owning up that I do check all that before picking a school or a community. But no, I am still not the snooty Irvine tiger mother just yet, because the bar is higher than mine. I know because I am a part of the club. That's why I won't own up. I am happy with my kids not going to the highest test score school in Irvine, but I won't be happy sending them to some API 6 school.

I don't have to explain myself any further on this thread. Go ahead, call me snooty for picking Irvine schools, call me narcissist/ gym rat for going to the gym every day- I couldn't care less.
 
qwerty said:
You irvinites think sending your kids to the great irvine schools is going to set up your kid for life. I got news for you, your kids are going to be working for the kids from newport beach, or IHS's daughter, she has someone who won't shelter her.
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While I understand your sentiment, I don't necessarily agree with it.

It may be cliche, but until you are a parent, you can't truly understand the motivation of being one. Decisions you think you would make change as circumstances change.

You are right, there are no guarantees... but sending your kids to certain schools isn't just about "setting them up for life"... it's about giving them an environment that lets them explore any and all options. For me, the most important thing is safety... and Irvine provides that. It may not be the safest or totally free of questionable influences, but given the parental involvement, there are differences that are measurable.

If I had to choose to send my kids to the school I went to or Irvine schools... it's a no-brainer (even though people like graphrix think they would be fine sending his "non-existent" kids to "ghetto" schools). And while I think I turned out okay despite "lower quality education", a parent always wants more for their children. For all I know, they won't turn out better... but at least I did my best as a parent to give them that opportunity.

Your opinion cuts both ways, just as much as "good schools" won't guarantee a kid's success later in life, "sheltering" will not necessarily force them into a life of subservience to IHS' daughter either.

To me, rankings like this isn't just about API scores, racial profiles or economic background... just about having a better environment for my children to be in.

P.S. IHS' daughter went to top ranked IUSD/TUDS schools too.
 
CZ - for the record, I wasn't referring to your kids specifically. I was generalizing about Irvine parents beliefs that by their kids going to IUSD their kids are going to be world leaders (I'm exaggerating) some day.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
You irvinites think sending your kids to the great irvine schools is going to set up your kid for life. I got news for you, your kids are going to be working for the kids from newport beach, or IHS's daughter, she has someone who won't shelter her.
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While I understand your sentiment, I don't necessarily agree with it.

It may be cliche, but until you are a parent, you can't truly understand the motivation of being one. Decisions you think you would make change as circumstances change.

You are right, there are no guarantees... but sending your kids to certain schools isn't just about "setting them up for life"... it's about giving them an environment that lets them explore any and all options. For me, the most important thing is safety... and Irvine provides that. It may not be the safest or totally free of questionable influences, but given the parental involvement, there are differences that are measurable.

If I had to choose to send my kids to the school I went to or Irvine schools... it's a no-brainer (even though people like graphrix think they would be fine sending his "non-existent" kids to "ghetto" schools). And while I think I turned out okay despite "lower quality education", a parent always wants more for their children. For all I know, they won't turn out better... but at least I did my best as a parent to give them that opportunity.

Your opinion cuts both ways, just as much as "good schools" won't guarantee a kid's success later in life, "sheltering" will not necessarily force them into a life of subservience to IHS' daughter either.

To me, rankings like this isn't just about API scores, racial profiles or economic background... just about having a better environment for my children to be in.

P.S. IHS' daughter went to top ranked IUSD/TUDS schools too.
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Couldn't have said it better IHO! Thank you. It's all about the environment, and everyone wants to give the best they can to their children.
 
Now, now, now. Qwerty is hilarious, however, CZ is not snooty. She is too self-aware to be that wrapped up in it. A true Irvine elitist would not be able to recognize the humor in it. Besides, if she only wanted her family to associate with rich bitches from Irvine, she wouldn't be seen with unpretentious trailer trash like meeeee.

Btw, I'm guilty of it, too. I find myself correcting people when they say I live in Lake Forest. No, Sir! I live in Foothill Ranch, thankyouverymuch. You know, up in the hills. Because the word "Ranch" alone automatically added $100k to the price of the home.  :P Up here we are: cleaner, better, richer, and smarter than those flat-landers.

(Comments have been posted since I started this, which I have not yet read.)
 
IHO - yeah I knew IHS kid went to the local schools. I agree about providing a safe environment. But is sending your kids to Beckman in Tustin vs northwood in irvine really a safety concern?  Some irvinites think west irvine is the ghetto because the kids go to Beckman. Those are the people I'm really referring to.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
It may not be the safest or totally free of questionable influences, but given the parental involvement, there are differences that are measurable.
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It's funny you say that. I've never seen less parental involvement than when we were at IUSD schools (2 of them). Having lived in 3 different areas to compare, I notice Irvine mainly has double wage earners without the time to commit to classroom involvement. In the I.E. and here in south O.C., many families choose to make 1 parent a full-time, at-home parent who commits regularly to their child's activities. I noticed this sentiment was also expressed by the principal in one of our school newsletters. Go ahead and get all "micro" on me about how I must be "confused" because you want to be right, but I'm not going to argue the point which is that's just what myself and others have noticed. I'm sure there are cultural differences that matter like teaching the child to have respect for their teacher. The point about parental involvement is really just a laugh to me, though.
 
qwerty said:
CZ - for the record, I wasn't referring to your kids specifically. I was generalizing about Irvine parents beliefs that by their kids going to IUSD their kids are going to be world leaders (I'm exaggerating) some day.
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OK, I will take your word for that.
I don't think IUSD parents have that dream any way. Having interacted with many of them, I know the dreams are limited. As long as they go to good college, get a good job and have a good family, their parents are happy.
 
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