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fortune11 said:
Official US policy seems to be that it is OK for Assad to kill as many civilians as he wants (500,000 so far) as long as he uses  conventional weapons .

This makes no logical sense.  But I guess he had to get Comey etc off the front page so here we are

Neocons win again
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Better than Leftists winning, any day.
"Elections have consequences.  We won.  You lost. Deal with it." - Barack Incompetent Obama, 2009

Payback's a Hillary, ain't it.
 
StarmanMBA said:
fortune11 said:
Official US policy seems to be that it is OK for Assad to kill as many civilians as he wants (500,000 so far) as long as he uses  conventional weapons .

This makes no logical sense.  But I guess he had to get Comey etc off the front page so here we are

Neocons win again
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Better than Leftists winning, any day.
"Elections have consequences.  We won.  You lost. Deal with it." - Barack Incompetent Obama, 2009

Payback's a Hillary, ain't it.
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Welcome to the boards StarmanMBA!
 
Liar Loan said:
StarmanMBA said:
fortune11 said:
Official US policy seems to be that it is OK for Assad to kill as many civilians as he wants (500,000 so far) as long as he uses  conventional weapons .

This makes no logical sense.  But I guess he had to get Comey etc off the front page so here we are

Neocons win again
Click to expand...

Better than Leftists winning, any day.
"Elections have consequences.  We won.  You lost. Deal with it." - Barack Incompetent Obama, 2009

Payback's a Hillary, ain't it.
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Welcome to the boards StarmanMBA!
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A lot of old news on TI. But I can do the same.
Maybe I should quote Regan - Tear down this wall! While you can quote Trump Build that Wall.

#oldnews

 
thank you president trump!

South Korea's Moon credits Trump for 'big' role in North Korea talks

South Korean President Moon Jae In credited President Donald Trump for playing a ?big? role in facilitating Tuesday?s groundbreaking talks between South and North Korea in a press conference Wednesday.

?I extend my gratitude to President Trump,? said Moon, speaking to reporters at his New Year?s address.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/south-koreas-moon-credits-trump-big-role-north/story?id=52252753
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morekaos said:
People just don't get Trump.  They still use the old scales to measure his style.  You cannot.  Where Obama played "chess" and sipped wine  (but couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag)  Trump plays poker and slugs whiskey.  While Old school is playing a more gentile and civilized game of tennis where the "ball is now in Trumps court" , Trump is playing smashmouth football, moving the ball down the field while chuggin beer. It's not too late to get on the Trump train if you can look at this administration from a different angle.
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Touchdown!! And a Royal Flush!...well done Mr. President!
 
Kings said:
thank you president trump!

South Korea's Moon credits Trump for 'big' role in North Korea talks

South Korean President Moon Jae In credited President Donald Trump for playing a ?big? role in facilitating Tuesday?s groundbreaking talks between South and North Korea in a press conference Wednesday.

?I extend my gratitude to President Trump,? said Moon, speaking to reporters at his New Year?s address.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/south-koreas-moon-credits-trump-big-role-north/story?id=52252753
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I think that was a misinterpretation, what he really said was:

?I am offended by the attitude of President Trump.?

:)
 
Burn That Belly said:
When I visited Seoul and went on to the DMZ tour a few years ago, the tour guide told us they believe the reunification HAS to happen. War was never going to break out. I scoffed at that thought for a moment since it hasn't happened for over 50 years.

Now I can't believe it, it truly is happening, just didn't expect it to happen so fast. And you know what, MAGA is going to take all the credit for it...
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Don't get your hopes up.

The Moon-Kim meeting reaffirms the truism that a summit meeting is neither a family reunion nor a blind date. Rather, a summit meeting is the acme of often protracted, contested negotiations, even between allies. It is a symbolic reaffirmation of major agreements already reached between the parties. Yet both Moon and Trump have approached their meetings with Kim as a possible political windfall, armed with little else than blind faith in their ability to tame the ruthless dictator. 

For Moon to rush into a summit with Kim in spite of no perceivable change in Pyongyang?s policy was the first mistake. Just as his predecessors had done, Moon chose to ignore his Northern counterpart?s ploy of dangling the possibility of denuclearization and peaceful coexistence.

Going all out at the actual meeting on the flimsy atmospherics of inter-Korean rapprochement while failing to press Kim on substantive issues such as denuclearization and the suffering of the North Korean people was Moon?s second mistake. Moon dutifully played his self-cast supporting role to Kim-the-lead-actor?s empty theatrics. They planted a ?peace tree? together, toasted each other, and Moon played host to the dystopian state?s royal family.

Moon?s third unforced error was reveling in pan-Korean ethnic identity and nationalism, with its implicit anti-U.S. bent. Such indulgences certainly boost one?s fragile ego and approval ratings. But it plays right into Kim?s hand of untying the blood-forged bond between the United States and the South while painting the United States as the intransigent aggressor that willfully impedes inter-Korean reconciliation and reunification. Accentuating ad nauseam the ?blood bond? between the North and South, all the while peddling the practical virtues of making concessions to the North Korean tyrant, begs the question: On whose side stands Moon?
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http://thehill.com/opinion/international/385110-a-korean-comedy-of-errors
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Don't get your hopes up.

The Moon-Kim meeting reaffirms the truism that a summit meeting is neither a family reunion nor a blind date. Rather, a summit meeting is the acme of often protracted, contested negotiations, even between allies. It is a symbolic reaffirmation of major agreements already reached between the parties. Yet both Moon and Trump have approached their meetings with Kim as a possible political windfall, armed with little else than blind faith in their ability to tame the ruthless dictator. 

For Moon to rush into a summit with Kim in spite of no perceivable change in Pyongyang?s policy was the first mistake. Just as his predecessors had done, Moon chose to ignore his Northern counterpart?s ploy of dangling the possibility of denuclearization and peaceful coexistence.

Going all out at the actual meeting on the flimsy atmospherics of inter-Korean rapprochement while failing to press Kim on substantive issues such as denuclearization and the suffering of the North Korean people was Moon?s second mistake. Moon dutifully played his self-cast supporting role to Kim-the-lead-actor?s empty theatrics. They planted a ?peace tree? together, toasted each other, and Moon played host to the dystopian state?s royal family.

Moon?s third unforced error was reveling in pan-Korean ethnic identity and nationalism, with its implicit anti-U.S. bent. Such indulgences certainly boost one?s fragile ego and approval ratings. But it plays right into Kim?s hand of untying the blood-forged bond between the United States and the South while painting the United States as the intransigent aggressor that willfully impedes inter-Korean reconciliation and reunification. Accentuating ad nauseam the ?blood bond? between the North and South, all the while peddling the practical virtues of making concessions to the North Korean tyrant, begs the question: On whose side stands Moon?
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http://thehill.com/opinion/international/385110-a-korean-comedy-of-errors
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LOL

nice opinion piece author standing on their head performing gold medal winning mental gymnastics trying desperately to downplay a truly historic event that will cement trump in the history books as one of the great presidents of our time
 
I can tell you I visited East Germany many times in the 80's.  Loads of pix at Checkpoint Charlie before going in.  At the time it too seemed impossible.  Reagan was thought of as a total lunatic warmonger here and in Europe..same as Trump and the same results.  Winning peace through strength.
 
Kings said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Don't get your hopes up.

The Moon-Kim meeting reaffirms the truism that a summit meeting is neither a family reunion nor a blind date. Rather, a summit meeting is the acme of often protracted, contested negotiations, even between allies. It is a symbolic reaffirmation of major agreements already reached between the parties. Yet both Moon and Trump have approached their meetings with Kim as a possible political windfall, armed with little else than blind faith in their ability to tame the ruthless dictator. 

For Moon to rush into a summit with Kim in spite of no perceivable change in Pyongyang?s policy was the first mistake. Just as his predecessors had done, Moon chose to ignore his Northern counterpart?s ploy of dangling the possibility of denuclearization and peaceful coexistence.

Going all out at the actual meeting on the flimsy atmospherics of inter-Korean rapprochement while failing to press Kim on substantive issues such as denuclearization and the suffering of the North Korean people was Moon?s second mistake. Moon dutifully played his self-cast supporting role to Kim-the-lead-actor?s empty theatrics. They planted a ?peace tree? together, toasted each other, and Moon played host to the dystopian state?s royal family.

Moon?s third unforced error was reveling in pan-Korean ethnic identity and nationalism, with its implicit anti-U.S. bent. Such indulgences certainly boost one?s fragile ego and approval ratings. But it plays right into Kim?s hand of untying the blood-forged bond between the United States and the South while painting the United States as the intransigent aggressor that willfully impedes inter-Korean reconciliation and reunification. Accentuating ad nauseam the ?blood bond? between the North and South, all the while peddling the practical virtues of making concessions to the North Korean tyrant, begs the question: On whose side stands Moon?
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http://thehill.com/opinion/international/385110-a-korean-comedy-of-errors
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LOL

nice opinion piece author standing on their head performing gold medal winning mental gymnastics trying desperately to downplay a truly historic event that will cement trump in the history books as one of the great presidents of our time
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Again...time will tell. 

1)  US exiting TPP would be bad...Trump says no...we make our own deal.  So far, experts are right and Trump looking to get back into TPP.

2)  All the experts basically stated that the tax cut bill would lead to huge deficits and very few jobs but Trumpsters kept saying 3-4% growth for the 10 years and eleventy billion jobs.    Experts have been right so far.

3)  Experts...ME is very complicated and difficult to sort out.  Trumpster...it's super easy.  Experts have been right so far.

4)  Experts:  Tariffs are bad and will hurt the economy and China will retaliate.  Trump says no!  So far...experts have been right.

5)  Experts:  Korea is super complicated and Kim is playing SK and Trump...Trumpsters say no!  We shall see...
 
I'm curious, Irvinecommuter, what makes the Korean peninsula so complicated?  It seems really simple to me when you seek to understand everybody's motivations.
 
When Trump was harsh towards NK, the Liberals said Trump the warmonger will start a war in Korea and millions will die.

Now that Trump will meet KJU, the Liberals say Trump is a retard and is being played by NK.

DAMN, THERE'S JUST NO PLEASING THE LIBERALS.
 
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