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Really? You think they really care?...

10.7 million vehicles
Globally, Toyota sold around 10.7 million vehicles between January and December 2019. The company's sales tally increased by around one percent between the 2018 and 2019 calendar years.May 15, 2020

RAV4 2019 sales mark all-time best ever; up 4.9 percent, led by RAV4 Hybrid posting increase of 92.3 percent
Total Lexus division luxury SUV (LUV) sales up 5.6 percent; marking a best-ever year
Total hybrid sales up 28.7 percent in 2019; Toyota division sales hybrid up 26.3 percent and Lexus division up 43.1 percent
 
Yes, they do care. I have heard some people say that Toyota lost a step and Tesla gained many steps like a mile in terms of EV technology.

morekaos said:
Really? You think they really care?...

10.7 million vehicles
Globally, Toyota sold around 10.7 million vehicles between January and December 2019. The company's sales tally increased by around one percent between the 2018 and 2019 calendar years.May 15, 2020

RAV4 2019 sales mark all-time best ever; up 4.9 percent, led by RAV4 Hybrid posting increase of 92.3 percent
Total Lexus division luxury SUV (LUV) sales up 5.6 percent; marking a best-ever year
Total hybrid sales up 28.7 percent in 2019; Toyota division sales hybrid up 26.3 percent and Lexus division up 43.1 percent
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eyephone said:
Yes, they do care. I have heard some people say that Toyota lost a step and Tesla gained many steps like a mile in terms of EV technology.

morekaos said:
Really? You think they really care?...

10.7 million vehicles
Globally, Toyota sold around 10.7 million vehicles between January and December 2019. The company's sales tally increased by around one percent between the 2018 and 2019 calendar years.May 15, 2020

RAV4 2019 sales mark all-time best ever; up 4.9 percent, led by RAV4 Hybrid posting increase of 92.3 percent
Total Lexus division luxury SUV (LUV) sales up 5.6 percent; marking a best-ever year
Total hybrid sales up 28.7 percent in 2019; Toyota division sales hybrid up 26.3 percent and Lexus division up 43.1 percent
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You heard wrong...can't even compare the two.

Tesla global vehicle sales increased 50% from 245,240 units in 2018 to 367,849 units in 2019.
 
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
Yes, they do care. I have heard some people say that Toyota lost a step and Tesla gained many steps like a mile in terms of EV technology.

morekaos said:
Really? You think they really care?...

10.7 million vehicles
Globally, Toyota sold around 10.7 million vehicles between January and December 2019. The company's sales tally increased by around one percent between the 2018 and 2019 calendar years.May 15, 2020

RAV4 2019 sales mark all-time best ever; up 4.9 percent, led by RAV4 Hybrid posting increase of 92.3 percent
Total Lexus division luxury SUV (LUV) sales up 5.6 percent; marking a best-ever year
Total hybrid sales up 28.7 percent in 2019; Toyota division sales hybrid up 26.3 percent and Lexus division up 43.1 percent
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You heard wrong...can't even compare the two.

Tesla global vehicle sales increased 50% from 245,240 units in 2018 to 367,849 units in 2019.
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Is that EV to EV SALES?
 
What I mean is they don't have a pure EV so they can't even compete with Tesla.

They just have hybrids, plug-ins and the fuel cell Mirai in the US.

Their first EVs are coming out in China.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
What I mean is they don't have a pure EV so they can't even compete with Tesla.

They just have hybrids, plug-ins and the fuel cell Mirai in the US.

Their first EVs are coming out in China.
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They do have pure ev rav 4. (I think compliance car) so that is still pure ev
 
Toyota supports litigation against California for high mileage. But GM does not support the lawsuit.

What is going on with Toyota? lol
(Don?t people want to buy high mileage cars?)
 
The Rav4 you are talking about is the Rav4 Prime. It's a plug-in hybrid so not full electric.

The point is (and I believe you what you were saying to morekaos)... Toyota is waaaaayyy behind Tesla in the EV market... so their EV sales is actually 0... YUGE deficit.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
The Rav4 you are talking about is the Rav4 Prime. It's a plug-in hybrid so not full electric.

The point is (and I believe you what you were saying to morekaos)... Toyota is waaaaayyy behind Tesla in the EV market... so their EV sales is actually 0... YUGE deficit.
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They had an all electric rav 4. Look it up.
 
The fact that they were an early investor in Tesla and sold (dumped) the stock says it all.
Also, the fact that Toyota is suing California to go against high fuel mileage says it all.
 
Toyota bet on the Hydrogen cell and lost.  They are using hybrids to cover themselves in the interim. 

It make sense for Toyota to wait and do the next big thing than chasing Tesla.

Japanese car maker Toyota will introduce a solid state battery that can recharge to full in just 10 minutes 2021, a move that could revolutionise the electric vehicle market.

The emergence of the solid state battery market has been predicted for some time, and players including VW-backed Quantumscape, Panasonic, Samsung as well as Nissan, Honda, amd of course Toyota hope to reap the rewards  if they can successfully bring one to market.

Solid state batteries are seen as a holy grail that could dramatically change the course of the uptake of EVs ? still affected by consumer perceptions of the time taken to recharge an EV ?  and could deliver spectacular returns for the car maker, or battery maker, that achieves it.
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https://thedriven.io/2020/12/14/toyota-plans-revolutionary-solid-state-battery-for-2021/

Tesla's long term play is a battery maker...but if Solid State Batteries are the norm..Telsa may get passed.  Musk has specific views on technologies that may or may not be true going forward.
https://www.thestreet.com/tesla/new...ate-battery-compared-to-teslas-battery-day-qs
 
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