Toyota moving to Texas

[sgip]

Any data on number of re-charges a L-Ion vs a Solid State battery can hold? That's going to enter into the equation as well. I can't see Tesla keeping their L-Ion batteries as is should a Solid State battery deliver the goods as promised.

My .02c

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Any data on number of re-charges a L-Ion vs a Solid State battery can hold? That's going to enter into the equation as well. I can't see Tesla keeping their L-Ion batteries as is should a Solid State battery deliver the goods as promised.

My .02c

There are press releases of SSD getting 500+ miles and 1000 recharge cycles (500K miles lifetime).  The battery is also smaller and lighter and charge faster than Li-Ion.

Question is when...Tesla seems to think SSD is a myth and that LiIon will be the norm for years.
https://contrarianedge.com/teslas-risky-gamble-the-future-of-lithium-ion-batteries/

It is interesting because Tesla still relies on LG and Panasonic to make a lot of its batteries...so Panasonic knows what it is up against when putting out its own SSD batteries.

Edit:

QuantumScape?s batteries should allow drivers to charge their electric cars to 80% of their full capacity within just fifteen minutes, the company said. The batteries should last around 12 years in normal use in a vehicle with a 300-mile range or better. It also expects its batteries to perform well even in sub-zero temperatures.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/qua...-that-charges-to-80percent-in-15-minutes.html

 

[irvinehomeowner]

The Rav4 you are talking about is the Rav4 Prime. It's a plug-in hybrid so not full electric.

The point is (and I believe you what you were saying to morekaos)... Toyota is waaaaayyy behind Tesla in the EV market... so their EV sales is actually 0... YUGE deficit.

They had an all electric rav 4. Look it up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_RAV4_EV

Not a current model. But even if you want to count it, Tesla still ahead. That's your point right?

 

[eyephone]

The Rav4 you are talking about is the Rav4 Prime. It's a plug-in hybrid so not full electric.

The point is (and I believe you what you were saying to morekaos)... Toyota is waaaaayyy behind Tesla in the EV market... so their EV sales is actually 0... YUGE deficit.

They had an all electric rav 4. Look it up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_RAV4_EV

Not a current model. But even if you want to count it, Tesla still ahead. That's your point right?

Yes. Also, they went full speed on hydrogen alternative cars.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

This just shows that rich people move because it suits them..not cause of taxes.

Ellison, the world?s 11th-wealthiest person, notified his staff Monday of the move. Recode first reported the executive?s decision, which followed Oracle?s announcement Friday that it had shifted the company?s headquarters to Austin, Texas, from Redwood City, California.

?I?ve received a number of inquiries about whether or not I will be moving to Texas,? Ellison wrote in a memo to Oracle?s employees. ?The answer is no. I?ve moved to the State of Hawaii and I?ll be using the power of Zoom to work from the island of Lanai. Mahalo, Larry.?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/oracle-larry-ellison-says-moved-205441890.html

Hawaii's tax rate is similar to California's.

Ellison does own like 98% of Lanai so "FREE RENT"! 

 

[morekaos]

Once again, our loss, their gain...he will be by far, the richest taxpayer in Hawaii. Who will replace that fiscal hole? 1 million illegal immigrants?  Great trade. >

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Immigrants do contribute to the economy, in many ways other than taxes.

 

[eyephone]

Once again, our loss, their gain...he will be by far, the richest taxpayer in Hawaii. Who will replace that fiscal hole? 1 million illegal immigrants?  Great trade. >

But your family were immigrants. (From the Philippines)
So I would not slam foreign people in the US.

 

[qwerty]

Once again, our loss, their gain...he will be by far, the richest taxpayer in Hawaii. Who will replace that fiscal hole? 1 million illegal immigrants?  Great trade. >

Go watch A Day Without A Mexican. Those illegals are add more value than Ellison

 

[morekaos]

My parents ?legally? migrated here. Took them almost ten years to earn the right to become citizens. They were fortunate but worked hard.  In all their time in Cali they did not contribute 1/100 th of the tax revenue that Musk or Ellison contribute in a month. We cannot afford to lose these revenue mules. The burden will most assuredly land with a thud on our heads. Taxes are going to go up for all the rest of us rubes left. Those guys have and will continue to make their billions, but they?ll pay their taxes elsewhere.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Yeah yeah yeah... and Trump was supposed to win the election.

 

[nosuchreality]

Ellison moved to Hawaii, any blather about taxes is BS.

Companies move, States prostitute themselves to get them.

Like building pro sports stadiums wiht public money.

 

[morekaos]

Yeah yeah yeah... and Trump was supposed to win the election.

Well, he did. He also delivered the covid vaccine in 2020 when all the ?experts? said that was impossible...#winning! >

 

[morekaos]

Ellison moved to Hawaii, any blather about taxes is BS.

Companies move, States prostitute themselves to get them.

Like building pro sports stadiums wiht public money.

Ellison didn?t  move to another state...he moved to his own country. He owns the whole island, I?d move there too. More importantly he moved oracles corporate headquarters to Texas. And that had everything to do with taxes, regulations and politics...all toxic to business here.

 

[usctrojancpa]

Any data on number of re-charges a L-Ion vs a Solid State battery can hold? That's going to enter into the equation as well. I can't see Tesla keeping their L-Ion batteries as is should a Solid State battery deliver the goods as promised.

My .02c

There are press releases of SSD getting 500+ miles and 1000 recharge cycles (500K miles lifetime).  The battery is also smaller and lighter and charge faster than Li-Ion.

Question is when...Tesla seems to think SSD is a myth and that LiIon will be the norm for years.
https://contrarianedge.com/teslas-risky-gamble-the-future-of-lithium-ion-batteries/

It is interesting because Tesla still relies on LG and Panasonic to make a lot of its batteries...so Panasonic knows what it is up against when putting out its own SSD batteries.

Edit:

QuantumScape?s batteries should allow drivers to charge their electric cars to 80% of their full capacity within just fifteen minutes, the company said. The batteries should last around 12 years in normal use in a vehicle with a 300-mile range or better. It also expects its batteries to perform well even in sub-zero temperatures.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/qua...-that-charges-to-80percent-in-15-minutes.html

Looking forward to those batteries being used in electric cars and probably when I'll buy my first EV.

 

[eyephone]

Yeah yeah yeah. Like the story how your family were the founding fathers in the Philippines and were so connected. So why did they have to work hard when the went to the US? (Your story always have a twist)

My parents ?legally? migrated here. Took them almost ten years to earn the right to become citizens. They were fortunate but worked hard.  In all their time in Cali they did not contribute 1/100 th of the tax revenue that Musk or Ellison contribute in a month. We cannot afford to lose these revenue mules. The burden will most assuredly land with a thud on our heads. Taxes are going to go up for all the rest of us rubes left. Those guys have and will continue to make their billions, but they?ll pay their taxes elsewhere.

 

[morekaos]

Attending Harvard med school and NYU business require quite a lot of work. I said they were fortunate and I was not kidding but that did not take away from what they had to do to become citizens. Mom did her residency in Pennsylvania but eventually they moved to California.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Yeah yeah yeah... and Trump was supposed to win the election.

Well, he did. He also delivered the covid vaccine in 2020 when all the ?experts? said that was impossible...#winning! >

He did, the 2020 one? Go borrow some foil from Mety.

Good job on the vaccine... too bad he couldn't help prevent the almost 100% ICU bed usage due to Covid... in Texas it's 97%.

 

[morekaos]

Yeah yeah yeah... and Trump was supposed to win the election.

Well, he did. He also delivered the covid vaccine in 2020 when all the ?experts? said that was impossible...#winning! >

He did, the 2020 one? Go borrow some foil from Mety.

Good job on the vaccine... too bad he couldn't help prevent the almost 100% ICU bed usage due to Covid... in Texas it's 97%.

He can?t prevent that any more than Biden will be able to...it is what it is.  Like I said, we will not get rid of this for a long time. It took ten years to eradicate polio with a less effective vaccine.

 

[eyephone]

Once again, our loss, their gain...he will be by far, the richest taxpayer in Hawaii. Who will replace that fiscal hole? 1 million illegal immigrants?  Great trade. >

Go watch A Day Without A Mexican. Those illegals are add more value than Ellison

Its all good Qwerty. We will all go out for tacos and drinks someday except Morekas.