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USA Today: Trump at 36 percent approval among African-Americans, new poll finds

"Today's @realDonaldTrump approval ratings among black voters: 36%," Rasmussen said in a tweet. "This day last year: 19%."

That is a staggeringly high number for a man who only won 8 percent of the African-American vote in 2016.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-african-americans-rasmussen-poll/1013212002/


CNN: Trump has gained among black voters since the 2016 election

Here's the thing though: It does actually seem that Trump has gained support among African-Americans since the 2016 election.

The network exit polls had Trump winning only 8% among black voters in 2016. Hillary Clinton took 89% of their vote. That is, Clinton won black voters by an 81-percentage-point margin.

Trump's average net approval rating (approval rating minus disapproval rating) with blacks right now is -72 points. In other words, he's shrunk his deficit by 9 points.

I would argue, though, that the President has made an even bigger improvement. To make an apples-to-apples comparison, we can look at a post-election Pew Research Center study with verified voters. Pew found that Clinton had an even larger margin 85-point margin with black voters, of 91% to 6%. If this study were correct, it would mean that Trump had doubled his black support since the election. (Note: Trump's approval rating with blacks in a Pew poll in June, not included in our average, was 14%. Again, this suggests he has gained since the election.)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/18/politics/poll-of-the-week-trump-black-voters/index.html


Fox: Trump is gaining black support because his policies are improving the lives of all Americans

Trump won barely 8 percent of the black vote in 2016. Yet today the NAACP?s own polls show his approval rating among African-Americans standing almost three times as high, at 21 percent.

Rasmussen ? the polling organization that came closest to calling the 2016 presidential election results ? polls a wider and less politicized community. It announced on Twitter that black approval for Trump is now 36 percent ? if not higher.

Black conservative commentator Candace Owens cites a poll where approval of President Trump among black Americans soars to 39 percent.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018...licies-are-improving-lives-all-americans.html
 
irvinehomeowner said:
So, although it may have increased, still not a lot of support from African Americans.
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Nothing close to a majority, and who knows if it will actually translate into votes, but this is not a good number for whoever the next Dem presidential candidate ends up being.
 
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
So, although it may have increased, still not a lot of support from African Americans.
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Nothing close to a majority, and who knows if it will actually translate into votes, but this is not a good number for whoever the next Dem presidential candidate ends up being.
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Black Support For Trump Is Rising Into The Danger Zone For Democrats
If black support for Trump gets into double figures, the Democratic Party will have to look for different themes than Russia, Stormy Daniels, and other such nonsense.

While President Trump?s approval holds steady among registered voters at 41 percent, his support among blacks in this poll is striking. If it holds for 2020, it could be devastating for Democrats. Among African-Americans, 16 percent approve of Trump, 10 percent are not sure, and 75 percent disapprove.

While that sounds highly negative, these are high positives for a Republican politician among black Americans. Approval of 16 percent is 8 points higher than the 8 percent of black voter support Trump received on election day 2016, and 9 points higher than the black vote Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney received in 2012. The ?Not Sure? at 10 percent is staggering, and the 75 percent ?disapprove? rating is consistent with the low 70 percent aggregate found in any YouGov poll among this demographic.

The same poll, with their rounding, reported in January that Trump approval was at 10 percent among black Americans, 15 percent were not sure, and 74 percent disapproved, so the numbers are not only steady but improving in Trump?s favor.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/11/black-support-trump-rising-danger-zone-democrats/
 
Good try with trying to move the topic to Trump Black support.

I think this is the last thing Trump is thinking about right now. Trump claims if he is impeached the market will crash.

(Is this a threat?)
 
eyephone said:
Good try with trying to move the topic to Trump Black support.

I think this is the last thing Trump is thinking about right now. Trump claims if he is impeached the market will crash.

(Is this a threat?)
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Ultimately we have just realized

After all , our political system depends on the honor code

We were not setup for a shameless d-bag like Trump . The constitution does give him a lot of leeway to cause tremendous economic damage if he wants to . In many ways , the Republican donors don?t really need him anymore since the tax cuts have already been passed . He can sense that too ? this is why the constant pivot to racial anxiety.
 
morekaos said:
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
So, although it may have increased, still not a lot of support from African Americans.
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Nothing close to a majority, and who knows if it will actually translate into votes, but this is not a good number for whoever the next Dem presidential candidate ends up being.
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Black Support For Trump Is Rising Into The Danger Zone For Democrats
If black support for Trump gets into double figures, the Democratic Party will have to look for different themes than Russia, Stormy Daniels, and other such nonsense.

While President Trump?s approval holds steady among registered voters at 41 percent, his support among blacks in this poll is striking. If it holds for 2020, it could be devastating for Democrats. Among African-Americans, 16 percent approve of Trump, 10 percent are not sure, and 75 percent disapprove.

While that sounds highly negative, these are high positives for a Republican politician among black Americans. Approval of 16 percent is 8 points higher than the 8 percent of black voter support Trump received on election day 2016, and 9 points higher than the black vote Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney received in 2012. The ?Not Sure? at 10 percent is staggering, and the 75 percent ?disapprove? rating is consistent with the low 70 percent aggregate found in any YouGov poll among this demographic.

The same poll, with their rounding, reported in January that Trump approval was at 10 percent among black Americans, 15 percent were not sure, and 74 percent disapproved, so the numbers are not only steady but improving in Trump?s favor.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/11/black-support-trump-rising-danger-zone-democrats/
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Another thing to think about would be the "shy Trump voter" phenomenon in polling.  That could be especially prevalent in the black community where expressing open support for Trump can lead to death threats (see Kanye) or ostracization (as happened recently with black religious leaders).  The message is being sent to stay in line or else.
 
eyephone said:
Good try with trying to move the topic to Trump Black support.
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Actually, I was just trying to honestly get a gauge on this. I listen to NBARadio more than POTUS and it was intriguing to see that the Warriors declined the White House invitation and then the mini-war between Lebron and Trump. Also, watched some of the VMAs and Kevin Hart was going off on Trump... that's why I said my observation was anecdotal.

You can go back to whatever it was you guys were talking about... I just noticed a few pages back someone said he was getting more African American support which just from the eye test doesn't seem right.
 
LANNY DAVIS OBLITERATED CNN?S ?BOMBSHELL? REPORT ABOUT MICHAEL COHEN AND TRUMP TOWER

?So Michael Cohen does not have information that President Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians beforehand or even after?? CNN?s Anderson Cooper asked Davis.

?No, he does not,? replied Davis, a longtime Clinton insider who started representing Cohen earlier this summer.

Davis?s bombshell statement severely undercuts a July 27 CNN report that Cohen was willing to tell special counsel Robert Mueller that he was in a meeting when Donald Trump Jr. told his father about an offer to meet with a group of Russians who wanted to provide dirt on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/lanny-davis-dispute-trump-tower-cohen/
 
Liar Loan said:
LANNY DAVIS OBLITERATED CNN?S ?BOMBSHELL? REPORT ABOUT MICHAEL COHEN AND TRUMP TOWER

?So Michael Cohen does not have information that President Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians beforehand or even after?? CNN?s Anderson Cooper asked Davis.

?No, he does not,? replied Davis, a longtime Clinton insider who started representing Cohen earlier this summer.

Davis?s bombshell statement severely undercuts a July 27 CNN report that Cohen was willing to tell special counsel Robert Mueller that he was in a meeting when Donald Trump Jr. told his father about an offer to meet with a group of Russians who wanted to provide dirt on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/lanny-davis-dispute-trump-tower-cohen/
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cohen has proven himself to be a completely unreliable witness, a total sleaze, and a terrible lawyer
 
One thing may be true ? Unlike Cohen, ?Brave? Manafort cannot flip without potentially double-crossing Putin and his oligarchs. Flipping on Trump is nothing compare to double-crossing Putin.
 
fortune11 said:
eyephone said:
David Pecker granted immunity.

?National Enquirer boss and longtime Trump friend David Pecker gets federal immunity in Michael Cohen case.?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...tors-trump-knew-of-cohen-payments-report.html


Let?s go!
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If tomorrow's NY Post headline isn't "Trump Shafted by Pecker", then what is the point of print journalism?
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Trump Org CFO granted immunity in Cohen investigation: report
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....ed-immunity-in-cohen-investigation-report?amp

Another one


 
I'm enjoying the new Republican meme that Al Capone got a raw deal

NRA s Dana Loesch: Democrats are ?trying to Al Capone the president

Basically Trump got away with being a grifter and a two-bit thug his whole life, and he?d still be getting away with it if he?d just kept his wide bottom in his gilded tower.
 
but...but...RUSSIA!

SOURCES: CHINA HACKED CLINTON?S PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER

A Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington, D.C., area hacked Hillary Clinton?s private server throughout her term as secretary of state and obtained nearly all her emails, two sources briefed on the matter told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Chinese firm obtained Clinton?s emails in real time as she sent and received communications and documents through her personal server, according to the sources, who said the hacking was conducted as part of an intelligence operation.

The Chinese wrote code that was embedded in the server, which was kept in Clinton?s residence in upstate New York. The code generated an instant ?courtesy copy? for nearly all of her emails and forwarded them to the Chinese company, according to the sources.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) found that virtually all of Clinton?s emails were sent to a ?foreign entity,? Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said at a July 12 House Committee on the Judiciary hearing. He did not reveal the entity?s identity, but said it was unrelated to Russia.

Two officials with the ICIG, investigator Frank Rucker and attorney Janette McMillan, met repeatedly with FBI officials to warn them of the Chinese intrusion, according to a former intelligence officer with expertise in cybersecurity issues, who was briefed on the matter. He spoke anonymously, as he was not authorized to publicly address the Chinese?s role with Clinton?s server.

Among those FBI officials was Peter Strzok, who was then the bureau?s top counterintelligence official. Strzok was fired this month following the discovery he sent anti-Trump texts to his mistress and co-worker, Lisa Page. Strzok didn?t act on the information the ICIG provided him, according to Gohmert.

Gohmert mentioned in the Judiciary Committee hearing that ICIG officials told Strzok and three other top FBI officials that they found an ?anomaly? on Clinton?s server.

The former intelligence officer TheDCNF spoke with said the ICIG ?discovered the anomaly pretty early in 2015.?

?When [the ICIG] did a very deep dive, they found in the actual metadata ? the data which is at the header and footer of all the emails ? that a copy, a ?courtesy copy,? was being sent to a third party and that third party was a known Chinese public company that was involved in collecting intelligence for China,? the former intelligence officer told TheDCNF.

?The [the ICIG] believe that there was some level of phishing. But once they got into the server something was embedded,? he said. ?The Chinese are notorious for embedding little surprises like this.?

The intelligence officer declined to name of the Chinese company.

?We do know the name of the company. There are indications there are other ?cutouts? that were involved. I would be in a lot of trouble if I gave you the name,? he told TheDCNF.

A government staff official who?s been briefed on the ICIG?s findings told TheDCNF that the Chinese state-owned firm linked to the hacking operates in Washington?s northern Virginia suburbs. The source was not authorized to publicly discuss the matter.

The company that penetrated Clinton?s server was not a technology firm and it served as a ?front group? for the Chinese government, the source told TheDCNF.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/china-hacked-clinton-server/
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Daily caller .com ?? Nuff said

Another one of those ?throwaway? right wing websites

I am hoping college bound kids in Irvine are reading NYT and WSJ and none of this junk clickbait material  :)
 
fortune11 said:
Daily caller .com ?? Nuff said

Another one of those ?throwaway? right wing websites

I am hoping college bound kids in Irvine are reading NYT and WSJ and none of this junk clickbait material  :)
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you mean like the upstanding cnn?  the shining beacon of truth?

Lanny Davis admits he was source for CNN's Trump Tower story, lied about it on air

Michael Cohen?s attorney has acknowledged being an anonymous source for the disputed CNN Trump Tower story and also admitted lying on TV about his involvement.

Lanny Davistold BuzzFeed News on Monday evening that he was a source for the story claiming that President Trump had personal prior knowledge of a controversial Trump Tower meeting with Russians ? a story the Cohen camp has since repudiated.

?I made a mistake,? Mr. Davis said.

As the July 26 CNN story claiming that Cohen had direct knowledge of Donald Trump Jr. telling his father of the meeting came under increasing scrutiny, Mr. Davis publicly lied about his role.

?I think the reporting of the story got mixed up in the course of a criminal investigation. We were not the source of the story,? he told CNN?s Anderson Cooper last week.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/27/lanny-davis-admits-he-was-source-cnn-trump-tower-s/
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Regardless, they knew everyone had access to that server like a cheap hooker.  They knew it almost immediately but the narrative about Russia had to be built around it.

Clinton server faced hacking from China, South Korea and Germany
By JOSH GERSTEIN and RACHAEL BADE 10/08/2015 07:17 AM EDT

Hillary Clinton's private email server containing tens of thousands of messages from her tenure as secretary of state ? including more than 400 now considered classified ? was the subject of hacking attempts from China, South Korea and Germany after she stepped down in 2013, according to Congressional investigators.

The Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee has found evidence of attempted intrusions into Clinton's server in 2013 and 2014, according to a letter Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) sent Monday to a Florida-based security firm tasked with protecting the hardware.

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/hillary-clinton-email-server-hacked-china-south-korea-germany-214546
 
morekaos said:
Regardless, they knew everyone had access to that server like a cheap hooker.  They knew it almost immediately but the narrative about Russia had to be built around it.

Clinton server faced hacking from China, South Korea and Germany
By JOSH GERSTEIN and RACHAEL BADE 10/08/2015 07:17 AM EDT

Hillary Clinton's private email server containing tens of thousands of messages from her tenure as secretary of state ? including more than 400 now considered classified ? was the subject of hacking attempts from China, South Korea and Germany after she stepped down in 2013, according to Congressional investigators.

The Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee has found evidence of attempted intrusions into Clinton's server in 2013 and 2014, according to a letter Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) sent Monday to a Florida-based security firm tasked with protecting the hardware.

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/hillary-clinton-email-server-hacked-china-south-korea-germany-214546
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It's unfortunate that Russia didn't take Trump's invitation to find the missing 30,000 e-mails.  We may need to reach out to SK or Germany to find out what she was hiding.
 
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