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Happiness said:
Perspective said:
He?s famous because he represents a porn star whom Trump f?d & paid to keep quiet. So, complaining about his morality or mere existence in the press, & ignoring why he?s there in the first place, is idiotic. But, that?s Trump enthusiasts for you...
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You mean like complaining about Russian hackers but maintain total silence about what the hackers revealed abut the DNC and the Clinton campaign?
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With all that?s going on and all that has transpired wrt the trump admin , you guys will never win a game of  whataboutism.

Let?s just leave it at that and spare all those forum readers who may be using ?recent posts ? link to read
 
Happiness said:
Perspective said:
He?s famous because he represents a porn star whom Trump f?d & paid to keep quiet. So, complaining about his morality or mere existence in the press, & ignoring why he?s there in the first place, is idiotic. But, that?s Trump enthusiasts for you...
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You mean like complaining about Russian hackers but maintain total silence about what the hackers revealed abut the DNC and the Clinton campaign?
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Who here?s done this?
 
Perspective said:
Happiness said:
Perspective said:
He?s famous because he represents a porn star whom Trump f?d & paid to keep quiet. So, complaining about his morality or mere existence in the press, & ignoring why he?s there in the first place, is idiotic. But, that?s Trump enthusiasts for you...
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You mean like complaining about Russian hackers but maintain total silence about what the hackers revealed abut the DNC and the Clinton campaign?
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Who here?s done this?
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There's a whole thread on this board called "The Investigation" where people here on this very board rant ceaselessly about the Russians.

No one on the liberal side recognizes the tremendous service that the hackers, Wikileaks, and Julian Assange did for the American people in revealing the depth of corruption and dishonesty the Dems.

Although Obama was apparently ok with Wikileaks reveaing stuff about Repubicans (George W. Bush administration) with his pardon of Chelsea Manning.

To American political leaders of all parties, you'd better behave because:

WIKILEAKS IS WATCHING YOU!
 
There?s no complaining in that thread about Russians. 99% of the complaints are likely related to Trump?s despicable daily behavior regarding the investigation.
 
Perspective said:
There?s no complaining in that thread about Russians. 99% of the complaints are likely related to Trump?s despicable daily behavior regarding the investigation.
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because it's a hoax, began under false pretenses and undermining to your duly elected president
 
Kings said:
Perspective said:
There?s no complaining in that thread about Russians. 99% of the complaints are likely related to Trump?s despicable daily behavior regarding the investigation.
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because it's a hoax, began under false pretenses and undermining to your duly elected president
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I?ll assume, for the sake of your credibility, that this is attempted humor.
 
Perspective said:
Kings said:
Perspective said:
There?s no complaining in that thread about Russians. 99% of the complaints are likely related to Trump?s despicable daily behavior regarding the investigation.
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because it's a hoax, began under false pretenses and undermining to your duly elected president
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I?ll assume, for the sake of your credibility, that this is attempted humor.
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i'll assume, for the sake of our country, that trump will be cleared of any collusion or wrongdoing by the end of the year
 
Boys and girls wait until after the midterms. A big announcement will be made regarding the investigation. (according to different public reports)
 
great read.  good luck to this woman in prison #believeallwomen

I am once again writing regarding fabricated allegations the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recently received. As you know, the Senate Judiciary Committee processed the nomination of Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh to serve as an Associate Justice on the Supreme Court of the United States, leading to his eventual confirmation on October 6, 2018. As part of that process, the Committee has investigated various allegations made against Judge Kavanaugh. The Committee?s investigation has involved communicating with numerous individuals claiming to have relevant information. While many of those individuals have provided the Committee information in good faith, it unfortunately appears some have not. As explained below, I am writing to refer Ms. Judy Munro-Leighton for investigation of potential violations of 18 U.S.C. ?? 1001 (materially false statements) and 1505 (obstruction), for materially false statements she made to the Committee during the course of the Committee?s investigation.

On September 25, 2018, staffers for Senator Harris, a Committee member, referred an undated handwritten letter to Committee investigators that her California office had received signed under the alias ?Jane Doe? from Oceanside, California.  The letter contained highly graphic sexual-assault accusations against Judge Kavanaugh. The anonymous accuser alleged that Justice Kavanaugh and a friend had raped her ?several times each? in the backseat of a car. In addition to being from an anonymous accuser, the letter listed no return address, failed to provide any timeframe, and failed to provide any location -- beyond an automobile -- in which these alleged incidents took place.

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Then, on October 3, 2018, Committee staff received an email from a Ms. Judy Munro-Leighton with a subject line claiming: ?I am Jane Doe from Oceanside CA -- Kavanaugh raped me.?

Ms. Munro-Leighton wrote that she was ?sharing with you the story of the night that Brett Kavanaugh and his friend sexually assaulted and raped me in his car? and referred to ?the letter that I sent to Sen. Kamala Harris on Sept. 19 with details of this vicious assault.? She continued: ?I know that [?]Jane Doe[?] will get no media attention, but I am deathly afraid of revealing any information about myself or my family.? She then included a typed version of the Jane Doe letter.

Committee investigators began investigating Ms. Munro-Leighton?s allegations. Given her relatively unique name, Committee investigators were able to use open-source research to locate Ms. Munro-Leighton and determine that she: (1) is a left-wing activist; (2) is decades older than Judge Kavanaugh; and (3) lives in neither the Washington DC area nor California, but in Kentucky. In order to investigate her sexual-assault claims, Committee investigators first attempted to reach her by phone on October 3, 2018, but were unsuccessful. On October 29, Committee investigators again attempted contact, leaving a voicemail. In response, Ms. Munro-Leighton left Committee investigators a voicemail on November 1, 2018.

Eventually, on November 1, 2018, Committee investigators connected with Ms. MunroLeighton by phone and spoke with her about the sexual-assault allegations against Judge Kavanaugh she had made to the Committee. Under questioning by Committee investigators, Ms. Munro-Leighton admitted, contrary to her prior claims, that she had not been sexually assaulted by Judge Kavanaugh and was not the author of the original ?Jane Doe? letter. When directly asked by Committee investigators if she was, as she had claimed, the ?Jane Doe? from Oceanside California who had sent the letter to Senator Harris, she admitted: ?No, no, no. I did that as a way to grab attention. I am not Jane Doe . . . but I did read Jane Doe?s letter. I read the transcript of the call to your Committee. . . . I saw it online. It was news.?

She further confessed to Committee investigators that (1) she ?just wanted to get attention?; (2) ?it was a tactic?; and (3) ?that was just a ploy.? She told Committee investigators that she had called Congress multiple times during the Kavanaugh hearing process ? including prior to the time Dr. Ford?s allegations surfaced ? to oppose his nomination. Regarding the false sexual-assault allegation she made via her email to the Committee, she said: ?I was angry, and I sent it out.? When asked by Committee investigators whether she had ever met Judge Kavanaugh, she said:?Oh Lord, no.?

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-11-02%20CEG%20to%20DOJ%20FBI%20(Munro-Leighton%20Referral)%20with%20redacted%20enclosures.pdf
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morekaos said:
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Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg fractures 3 ribs in fall

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg fractured three ribs after a fall at her office Wednesday evening, the court said in a news release.

Ginsburg, 85, later experienced discomfort and was admitted to George Washington University Hospital "for observation and treatment."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-fractures-3-ribs-in-fall
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very sad to hear, but father time catches up with everyone eventually
 
Kings said:
Happiness said:
Perspective said:
zubs said:
Democrats and Republicans are party first country second.  You can see it by the way they vote.
Republicans obstructed obama as much as possible & now Democrats are going to do the same.

This is our new normal.  Bend over and take it.
...as Russia polarizes the two sides and giggle on the sidelines at all the funny headlines their troll farm creates.
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Unfortunate, but true. This is politics.

Keep this in perspective though. During the Civil Rights Era, people were beaten and killed for expressing support.
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Think about the thousands who were beaten or killed under Chairman Mao based on uncorroborated allegations. Have you ever stepped on anyone's toes in your life? Exes, business partners, relatives, random acquaintances?  What if that person decides to lob a Dr. Ford caliber allegation at you? You will be doomed. "I believe women!", that's all the proof needed nowadays.
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whether or not you thought there was gender inequality in the workplace before, there will certainly be inequality after this whole debacle because who in their right mind would want to hire women who could potentially take down a businesses with false claims of sexual assault?  the mentality moving forward will be that you can't even be in the same room with a woman in the workplace with the door closed to have a meeting without risking your job and your life.
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like i said

Wall Street Rule for the #MeToo Era: Avoid Women at All Cost

No more dinners with female colleagues. Don?t sit next to them on flights. Book hotel rooms on different floors. Avoid one-on-one meetings.

In fact, as a wealth adviser put it, just hiring a woman these days is ?an unknown risk.? What if she took something he said the wrong way?

Across Wall Street, men are adopting controversial strategies for the #MeToo era and, in the process, making life even harder for women.

Call it the Pence Effect, after U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, who has said he avoids dining alone with any woman other than his wife. In finance, the overarching impact can be, in essence, gender segregation.

Interviews with more than 30 senior executives suggest many are spooked by #MeToo and struggling to cope. ?It?s creating a sense of walking on eggshells,? said David Bahnsen, a former managing director at Morgan Stanley who?s now an independent adviser overseeing more than $1.5 billion.

This is hardly a single-industry phenomenon, as men across the country check their behavior at work, to protect themselves in the face of what they consider unreasonable political correctness -- or to simply do the right thing. The upshot is forceful on Wall Street, where women are scarce in the upper ranks. The industry has also long nurtured a culture that keeps harassment complaints out of the courts and public eye, and has so far avoided a mega-scandal like the one that has engulfed Harvey Weinstein.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-03/a-wall-street-rule-for-the-metoo-era-avoid-women-at-all-cost
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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg undergoes surgery

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg underwent a pulmonary lobectomy today at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York City. Two nodules in the lower lobe of her left lung were discovered incidentally during tests performed at George Washington University Hospital to diagnose and treat rib fractures sustained in a fall on November 7. According to the thoracic surgeon, Valerie W. Rusch, MD, FACS, both nodules removed during surgery were found to be malignant on initial pathology evaluation. Post-surgery, there was no evidence of any remaining disease. Scans performed before surgery indicated no evidence of disease elsewhere in the body. Currently, no further treatment is planned. Justice Ginsburg is resting comfortably and is expected to remain in the hospital for a few days. Updates will be provided as they become available.
 
"I felt a great disturbance in The Force.... as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened".


All politics aside - Wishing a speedy recovery to RBG. Tough thing to go through what with broken ribs and all the other medical issues she's had to deal with.

My .02c
 
the end is nigh

Ginsburg misses second day in a row at Supreme Court

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was absent from the Supreme Court bench for the second day in a row on Tuesday.

Chief Justice John Roberts noted Ginsburg?s absence when the justices took their seats for the second time in the new year.

Repeating what he said Monday, Roberts said Ginsburg is ?unable to be present? for the court?s sitting, but will participate in the decisions using transcripts of the arguments and court briefs.

Ginsburg, who was forced to miss her first oral argument in more than 25 years on Monday, is still recuperating at home after surgery to remove two cancerous nodules from the lower lobe of her left lung on Dec. 21.

The spots were found incidentally in an X-ray she had at George Washington University Hospital while being treated for fractured ribs, an injury she sustained after falling in her office on Nov. 7.

If Ginsburg is forced to step down from the court, President Trump will have the opportunity to nominate a third justice, likely cementing the court?s conservative majority and pushing its ideological balance even farther to the right for generations to come.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/424287-ginsburg-misses-second-day-in-a-row-at-supreme-court
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Hopefully RBG will be able to retire with dignity and not pass before her appointed time. I'm amazed at how much ghoulish stuff about RBG being posted on the intarwebs right now. Besides RBG and her present suffering, the person I'd feel sorry for is whomever will be nominated to replace RBG or any other SCOTUS Justice for that matter. It will be an utter crucifixion, live streamed for all to witness every gory detail.

Nice to see the following regarding Kavanaugh's 1st written opinion from the bench:

"....and we are not at liberty to rewrite the statute passed by Congress and signed by the President.... We vacate the contrary judgment of the Court of Appeals".

That's what I wanted in a SCOTUS appointee - the refusal to legislate from the bench. (PS - this was a 9-0 decision - so good all around)

My .02c
 
Soylent Green Is People said:
Hopefully RBG will be able to retire with dignity and not pass before her appointed time. I'm amazed at how much ghoulish stuff about RBG being posted on the intarwebs right now. Besides RBG and her present suffering, the person I'd feel sorry for is whomever will be nominated to replace RBG or any other SCOTUS Justice for that matter. It will be an utter crucifixion, live streamed for all to witness every gory detail.

Nice to see the following regarding Kavanaugh's 1st written opinion from the bench:

"....and we are not at liberty to rewrite the statute passed by Congress and signed by the President.... We vacate the contrary judgment of the Court of Appeals".

That's what I wanted in a SCOTUS appointee - the refusal to legislate from the bench. (PS - this was a 9-0 decision - so good all around)

My .02c
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Sorry...courts are supposed to legislate from the bench...it's part of their job.  Co-equal branches of government.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Soylent Green Is People said:
Hopefully RBG will be able to retire with dignity and not pass before her appointed time. I'm amazed at how much ghoulish stuff about RBG being posted on the intarwebs right now. Besides RBG and her present suffering, the person I'd feel sorry for is whomever will be nominated to replace RBG or any other SCOTUS Justice for that matter. It will be an utter crucifixion, live streamed for all to witness every gory detail.

Nice to see the following regarding Kavanaugh's 1st written opinion from the bench:

"....and we are not at liberty to rewrite the statute passed by Congress and signed by the President.... We vacate the contrary judgment of the Court of Appeals".

That's what I wanted in a SCOTUS appointee - the refusal to legislate from the bench. (PS - this was a 9-0 decision - so good all around)

My .02c
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Sorry...courts are supposed to legislate from the bench...it's part of their job.  Co-equal branches of government.
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is that why we have so many congress members offering their legal opinions on everything trump? co-equal!
 
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