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irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
so much for those pocket parks being great and making up for the lack of yard. you guys must be hating your 10ft yards right about now. 
I thought it was 8ft... 10ft is a premium lot. :)

Nope, they're a whole, massive 10 feet long.
 
I find that the newer parks are pretty crowded (especially on the weekends) but if you cross over into (old) Northwood,  there are many beautiful parks with brand new equipment that are virtually empty.  Try Blue Gum park--  it has big shady trees and lot of grass-  great for little ones. 
You can download a map of all the city managed parks from the Irvine city website-  you find a ton of parks in Northwood that you probably never knew were there.
 
Back on the topic.  For people with new home purchase, how do you find out the exact lot dimension of your home?  Will builder provide the number?  I want to know the lot size and back/side yard size to help the future landscaping and selling the house.
 
songkou said:
Back on the topic.  For people with new home purchase, how do you find out the exact lot dimension of your home?  Will builder provide the number?  I want to know the lot size and back/side yard size to help the future landscaping and selling the house.
They'll give you lot plan that shows sizes and locations of water meters and stuff near the lot.
Study it carefully.
 
Irvine_Dreamer said:
songkou said:
Back on the topic.  For people with new home purchase, how do you find out the exact lot dimension of your home?  Will builder provide the number?  I want to know the lot size and back/side yard size to help the future landscaping and selling the house.
They'll give you lot plan that shows sizes and locations of water meters and stuff near the lot.
Study it carefully.
Thanks.  Do builders give out this info at the closing?
 
No Quarter said:
songkou said:
Irvine_Dreamer said:
songkou said:
Back on the topic.  For people with new home purchase, how do you find out the exact lot dimension of your home?  Will builder provide the number?  I want to know the lot size and back/side yard size to help the future landscaping and selling the house.
They'll give you lot plan that shows sizes and locations of water meters and stuff near the lot.
Study it carefully.
Thanks.  Do builders give out this info at the closing?

You should be able to get it before signing anything.  It will show lot number, parcel number (e.g. county tax parcel), property lines and any easements that are on the site.

I have this same exact question too.  TIC only gave me a property line one with easement info when I signed the contract.  I'm going to ask for the lot size info for my landscaping options too this month.  I know they have a more detailed version of it in the office.  Wish I took a snapshot of it when I had the chance. 

I believe a lot has changed in procedure recently.  I talked to my home inspector and he said TIC as of January 2013 no longer will allow him to inspect the homes until the final walk thru.  He was also surprised that TIC also will no longer allow for the "dusty shoe" inspection by the customer as well.  Basically it's harder and harder to do a 3rd party quality inspection/control on a TIC home nowadays.

Makes KB Homes seem pretty good, at least they allow a home inspector on site at ALL phases of the construction.
 
That's interesting. When I asked about property line and lot size, Cheryl (the sales office manager) remarked at how unnecessary that information is and that only one previous buyer had insisted on finding that information out but IP could not furnish it so he had to go to the city to request it, and she still didn't know if he ever found out.

It's pretty frustrating that they simply would not and could not provide me that information and basically scoffed when I said I felt it was important.
 
lucky said:
That's interesting. When I asked about property line and lot size, Cheryl (the sales office manager) remarked at how unnecessary that information is and that only one previous buyer had insisted on finding that information out but IP could not furnish it so he had to go to the city to request it, and she still didn't know if he ever found out.

It's pretty frustrating that they simply would not and could not provide me that information and basically scoffed when I said I felt it was important.

The property line should be a standard when signing a contract on a new home.  I'm surprised it wasn't in your contract when you signed?  Maybe more people asked about it so they made it a standard in CV contracts??

I don't think it's right that she scoffed at your question.  Although I am not surprised.  I can see how they can have a real attitude at the sales office.  I got really lucky that the sales rep at Marigold, the one that gives out the contract, is really great at answering all my questions.  I think I ask way more than the typical buyer ... well thanks to TI I know way more than I should.  But the other sales rep that just cycles thru doesn't really know much and gets shocked when someone asks an educated question.
 
lucky said:
That's interesting. When I asked about property line and lot size, Cheryl (the sales office manager) remarked at how unnecessary that information is and that only one previous buyer had insisted on finding that information out but IP could not furnish it so he had to go to the city to request it, and she still didn't know if he ever found out.

It's pretty frustrating that they simply would not and could not provide me that information and basically scoffed when I said I felt it was important.

I asked at the time of signing purchase agreement for the lot dimensions and I was handed a copy of diagram with very minimal information.  They must have these information for their constructions.  I don't understand why they want to hide them from us.  I'm going to press them again next time when I go to the sale office.  How could she said how unnecessary that information is.  We're scrubbing our saving off to buy that piece of land and we aren't even allowed to know how big (actually, how small) it is?
 
They are pretty stingy with showing you what is "suppose" to be public data.  They have a giant book with all the exact measurements for all the properties.  The sales people are pretty bad at showing you.  I did get a look at it "before" I signed my sales agreement because i was trying to pick which lot I wanted.  After that it was like I was asking for government secrets or something.

You know who has the measurements of your house is the design center.  And if you get the right designer they'll let you have a peek at the book and write down any thing you want.  Make them pick out materials for you and snap pictures of it while they are gone.
 
broda said:
They are pretty stingy with showing you what is "suppose" to be public data.  They have a giant book with all the exact measurements for all the properties.  The sales people are pretty bad at showing you.  I did get a look at it "before" I signed my sales agreement because i was trying to pick which lot I wanted.  After that it was like I was asking for government secrets or something.

You know who has the measurements of your house is the design center.  And if you get the right designer they'll let you have a peek at the book and write down any thing you want.  Make them pick out materials for you and snap pictures of it while they are gone.
I just don't understand why are they hiding these information?  They're like in the default mode of giving out information as little as possible regardless what it is.  What are they afraid of?
 
I believe the one "for instance" I gave was "Whenever I sell my home at some point, I'll want to list the lot size." And Cheryl's reply was, "It doesn't matter. Buyers don't care about that."

I've since considered other important examples where it can very seriously matter. For example, what if someone falls and breaks a leg in front of my garage? I will be liable if they are on my property, but I don't know where my property ends.

Speaking of garages, here's an unrelated question: Are we allowed to park in front of the garage? There's enough room for it and I see people doing it from time to time. I won't do it long term or on a regular basis, but I've just been wondering if it's permissible. I'd guess not since they restrict everything you do here.
 
Regarding parking in front of garage, I've asked the question.  The short answer is it's not allowed.  City considers the streets in front of our house as fire lanes.  But in reality, since there is some space between the garage and the street, including the sidewalk, it's a temptation to park parallel to the garage door for short period of time.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Isn't Saratoga a detached condo? You usually don't get a "lot size" with condos.


Yes it's a detached condo, but we do own the land, so there has to be some kind of measure as to how much of that land there is, right?
 
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