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Yup...people may fall for the short term gain but the pain is coming

The Trump tax cuts provide a unique opportunity for companies to boost pay without getting punished by Wall Street. Big companies are just now beginning to estimate the net effects of the tax cuts, and so far, the forecast is for a roughly 8% jump in after-tax profits in 2018, according to Credit Suisse. That?s a big boost, and it gives CEOs plenty of wiggle room to address labor shortages and concerns about workers bolting for better-paying jobs.

Even so, companies are being stingier than some of the cheerful PR suggests. A Yahoo Finance compilation of all the recently announced moves shows that most companies are offering one-time bonuses rather than permanent raises. That?s a lot cheaper than across-the-board pay hikes that permanently raise labor costs. ?The bonuses are the most suspect because that?s a one-time hit, likely made up in the first year,? says David Nelson, chief strategist for investing firm Belpointe. ?It?s different when you raise wages. You can?t take it back.?

Companies may also be giving workers a lift now, because they see moves coming later this year, such as stock buybacks, that will primarily benefit shareholders. So bonuses and raises could be an effort by companies to inoculate themselves from criticism that their response to the tax cuts primarily benefits the wealthy. ?We do not expect corporate tax cuts to lead to a meaningful boost in business investment,? Moody?s says in a recent report. The debt-rating firm expects companies to ?prioritize activities such as share buybacks, M&A and paying down existing debt? instead.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/real-reason-trump-bonuses-192322608.html
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Yup...people may fall for the short term gain but the pain is coming

The Trump tax cuts provide a unique opportunity for companies to boost pay without getting punished by Wall Street. Big companies are just now beginning to estimate the net effects of the tax cuts, and so far, the forecast is for a roughly 8% jump in after-tax profits in 2018, according to Credit Suisse. That?s a big boost, and it gives CEOs plenty of wiggle room to address labor shortages and concerns about workers bolting for better-paying jobs.

Even so, companies are being stingier than some of the cheerful PR suggests. A Yahoo Finance compilation of all the recently announced moves shows that most companies are offering one-time bonuses rather than permanent raises. That?s a lot cheaper than across-the-board pay hikes that permanently raise labor costs. ?The bonuses are the most suspect because that?s a one-time hit, likely made up in the first year,? says David Nelson, chief strategist for investing firm Belpointe. ?It?s different when you raise wages. You can?t take it back.?

Companies may also be giving workers a lift now, because they see moves coming later this year, such as stock buybacks, that will primarily benefit shareholders. So bonuses and raises could be an effort by companies to inoculate themselves from criticism that their response to the tax cuts primarily benefits the wealthy. ?We do not expect corporate tax cuts to lead to a meaningful boost in business investment,? Moody?s says in a recent report. The debt-rating firm expects companies to ?prioritize activities such as share buybacks, M&A and paying down existing debt? instead.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/real-reason-trump-bonuses-192322608.html

Pain from what?  What are you talking about?
 
Liar Loan said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Yup...people may fall for the short term gain but the pain is coming

The Trump tax cuts provide a unique opportunity for companies to boost pay without getting punished by Wall Street. Big companies are just now beginning to estimate the net effects of the tax cuts, and so far, the forecast is for a roughly 8% jump in after-tax profits in 2018, according to Credit Suisse. That?s a big boost, and it gives CEOs plenty of wiggle room to address labor shortages and concerns about workers bolting for better-paying jobs.

Even so, companies are being stingier than some of the cheerful PR suggests. A Yahoo Finance compilation of all the recently announced moves shows that most companies are offering one-time bonuses rather than permanent raises. That?s a lot cheaper than across-the-board pay hikes that permanently raise labor costs. ?The bonuses are the most suspect because that?s a one-time hit, likely made up in the first year,? says David Nelson, chief strategist for investing firm Belpointe. ?It?s different when you raise wages. You can?t take it back.?

Companies may also be giving workers a lift now, because they see moves coming later this year, such as stock buybacks, that will primarily benefit shareholders. So bonuses and raises could be an effort by companies to inoculate themselves from criticism that their response to the tax cuts primarily benefits the wealthy. ?We do not expect corporate tax cuts to lead to a meaningful boost in business investment,? Moody?s says in a recent report. The debt-rating firm expects companies to ?prioritize activities such as share buybacks, M&A and paying down existing debt? instead.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/real-reason-trump-bonuses-192322608.html

Pain from what?  What are you talking about?

When they start using the money things not related to labor/employees, accelerating automation, and start laying off workers.
 
Recessions inevitably follow expansions. Circle of life. But not until 2019. After the mid-terms.  The Business cycle cannot be repealed but for now we are good.
 
morekaos said:
Recessions inevitably follow expansions. Circle of life. But not until 2019. After the mid-terms.  The Business cycle cannot be repealed but for now we are good.

Not a cycle...a trend.  Decrease in labor and costs.  Tax cuts just speeds that up.
 
so......... u can use blue for liberal view.

red for conservatives.

green for money.

pink for ladies (or those who identify as such).

rainbow for lgbt.

then we'll have a nice colorful board (not that it hasn't been such for a while) and we'll all know which posts to read and which to avoid.

if u just stop posting, the thread will have only one view and fade away and d i e.
 
I think what fortune is trying to say:
It?s like reading a real estate listing discription that is all in caps. It?s kind of annoying.

Easy on the colors, bold, and caps.

 
Ready2Downsize said:
so......... u can use blue for liberal view.

red for conservatives.

green for money.

pink for ladies (or those who identify as such).

rainbow for lgbt.

then we'll have a nice colorful board (not that it hasn't been such for a while) and we'll all know which posts to read and which to avoid.

if u just stop posting, the thread will have only one view and fade away and d i e.

Why can't we all just get along?
 
eyephone said:
I think what fortune is trying to say:
It?s like reading a real estate listing discription that is all in caps. It?s kind of annoying.

Easy on the colors, bold, and caps.

Yes thank you , is that so hard ?  Trust me , people acting surprised know exactly what I am saying but it is so hard for them to concede any point , that they have to act cute about it .

No one said that you don?t have to post opposing viewpoints . That s obviously what makes a forum .
You just don?t have to burn everyone else?s retinas while doing it :)
 
eyephone said:
I think what fortune is trying to say:
It?s like reading a real estate listing discription that is all in caps. It?s kind of annoying.

Easy on the colors, bold, and caps.

I happen to like the red. I know what propaganda posts I'm ok reading and clicking the links on and which I have no interest in.

If you don't like to read the red posts, it will be quick for you to skip over them. Or........... u really need to go see an eye doctor.

OR maybe the red is making u angry for some reason.

Just chill....... it ain't worth arguing over. In the end we're all getting older by a day every single day and we'll all die whether we see the red or not and it won't be one day quicker or slower.

I got plenty of other things to fuss over.

 
You know, I?ve been posting like this for around 7 years here and an additional 6 at the previous IHB and no one has ever said a word.  I usually do that to separate comment from headline, article and link.  Try to never comment without backing it up with a link to the quoted information.  But I agree, if bold, colorful font is your biggest problem, you got a pretty good thing going on😆
 
Predictable response ... didnt expect anything else

One can always ignore it , which I would very much like to but not when you primarily access the forum through "Recent Posts" link which is a very convenient way to access active topics

Then all you see is this Trump idolatry and lovefest plastered all over the first page in gigantic fonts, making this otherwise very useful forum look like a right wing sub reddit thread 

It is probably a big turn off for many readers who are not that ideologically biased and come here not for Trump worship but as a phenomenal resource for housing advice , whats current , food , neighborhood news , etc, etc .  political humor is well and good but thats not what I am referring to here

Orange County and Irvine was different 20 years ago. it was different 10 years ago and it is much more different and. diverse now . same goes for the audience on this forum

I also understand many veteran posters here feel they have a bigger " claim " to the forum real estate and they have their very vocal "in-crowd" reinforcing each others right wing views which is fine as well but the constant barrage of right wing headlines in gigantic font is probably not appealing to a meaningful number of other users out there, not all of whom care to post their views on this matter .

ultimately it is for the moderators and forum sponsors to figure out what s right for the forum - my lone voice doesn't matter , but atleast I am willing to speak up
 
fortune11 said:
Predictable response ... didnt expect anything else

One can always ignore it , which I would very much like to but not when you primarily access the forum through "Recent Posts" link which is a very convenient way to access active topics

Then all you see is this Trump idolatry and lovefest plastered all over the first page in gigantic fonts, making this otherwise very useful forum look like a right wing sub reddit thread 

It is probably a big turn off for many readers who are not that ideologically biased and come here not for Trump worship but as a phenomenal resource for housing advice , whats current , food , neighborhood news , etc, etc .  political humor is well and good but thats not what I am referring to here

Orange County and Irvine was different 20 years ago. it was different 10 years ago and it is much more different and. diverse now . same goes for the audience on this forum

I also understand many veteran posters here feel they have a bigger " claim " to the forum real estate and they have their very vocal "in-crowd" reinforcing each others right wing views which is fine as well but the constant barrage of right wing headlines in gigantic font is probably not appealing to a meaningful number of other users out there, not all of whom care to post their views on this matter .

ultimately it is for the moderators and forum sponsors to figure out what s right for the forum - my lone voice doesn't matter , but atleast I am willing to speak up

I also read this forum using the ?recent posts? link. When I open up TI and see anything trump or politics related as the most recent 5 posts, I X out of TI and move on.  Judging the activity here these days, I would guess you?re right... not appealing to a meaningful number of users out there 😴
 
I ONLY use the recent posts link to view TI.

The red font shows me immediately what thread is a COMPLETE waste of time. I don't care if your posts are black or red, I don't read them JUST BECAUSE I see the red ones and know it's just bickering between two sides.

If it goes on and on, I might see a headline, but it's generally in one ear and out the other. I can read the news on my own without the added propaganda inserted.

If you want it to end, just don't post and the other half will eventually see it as a waste of time and voila.................. end of the thread.

Continue to feed it, and it ain't going away.

I just want to see local news/concerns/non political chit chat (like restaurants/cooking) and housing/real estate related posts.

In other words.............. TalkIrvine (or surrounding areas that Irvineites would visit), not TalkTrump or TalkAntiTrump which seems to have taken over the site).

 
Wow, this is really eating at some...I have a solution, since I really don?t care,  I will cease to post on this thread...until after the election in November when I will re-open the convo so I can comment on the outcome...there, stick a fork in it!
 
Haters gonna hate.

morekaos already explained he likes crayons.

Actual Irvine real estate talk has dropped off in the last few years, so at least there is some discussion going on here.

Unless you guys prefer talking about Tustin Legacy. :)
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Haters gonna hate.

morekaos already explained he likes crayons.

Actual Irvine real estate talk has dropped off in the last few years, so at least there is some discussion going on here.

Unless you guys prefer talking about Tustin Legacy. :)

Why not?  we all love Tustin Legacy .  The new All American dreamscape , complete with soda fountains and paper-hat clad carhops and waitresses on roller-skates
 
What link are you guys using to view recent posts?  When I go to the landing page there are the 5 most recent posts at the bottom, but it doesn't show me the font color, font size, or anything else, just the 5 most recent Subject headers.

Usually, I click on "Show unread posts since last visit" at the top of the page and scan through to see which topics I want to read from there.  That still doesn't show any of the content of the posts, just the Subject and the last person to comment.

Personally, there are lots of topics that don't interest me on this forum, which is why I have gone long stretches without being active on TI.  The new home topics are incredibly uninteresting to me, so you know what I do?  I just ignore them.  It doesn't hurt me one bit if people want to comment on those topics.

Sometimes people talk about things like fast food or Korean BBQ that don't especially interest me.  I ignore those topics too and it doesn't hurt me one bit.

What I do try to do is create conversation by posting in topics that do interest me with relevant posts.  Sometimes I create topics like the Bitcoin thread that I think are interesting to talk about.

My advice would be to ignore topics you don't like and try to stimulate conversation in the topics you do like.  If what you post is interesting enough it will generate more comments and drown out the topics you don't like.

Trying to control what others do is going to fail.  You will drive out all of the interesting people that don't agree with you, which will lead to a boring echochamber full of groupthink.  The already low traffic numbers will get even worse.  This has happened before and it has damaged this forum immensely.  Many people have left TI never to return.  So think about what you are trying to do here.

Now let's get back to admiring how great Trump is!  MAGA!!
 
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