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morekaos said:
Not so. KMB is very sector specific in its move...

As US birthrates drop, Kimberly-Clark feels the pinch

DALLAS (AP) ? Americans are having fewer babies, and diaper makers are feeling the pinch.

Kimberly-Clark said Tuesday it will cut as many as 5,500 jobs, or 13 percent of its workforce, in an attempt to lower costs.

The job cuts come as the maker of Huggies and Kleenex ? like other consumer-products companies ? is seeing a decline in demand for some core products as U.S. birthrates fall.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/23/the-associated-press-as-us-birthrates-drop-kimberly-clark-feels-the-pinch.html

Like the Toys R Us announcement, these are companies adjusting to the new realities of retail, nothing more.  Probably a good spot to accumulate KMB now ($119).  More likely is the plethora of expansion, capital expenditures, special dividends, merger/acquisitions along with increases in employment and salaries will be the new norm
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And how does tax cuts help with that?  Just gives more incentive for dividends and stock buy backs and increase change to automation.

Toy's R Us is done cause it was heavily into local retail...KC is supplier of goods, not a seller of them. 

Again...these "bonuses" are pure PR moves...tax cuts are an 1980s answer to a 2018 problem. 
 
Irvinecommuter cherrypicks two companies, one of which was already bankrupt before the tax plan was passed, to make his point.  Meanwhile, close to 200 companies have declared increased bonuses or pay for their employees. 

Just another day in Trumpland:

Starbucks to boost worker pay and benefits after US lowers corporate taxes
Starbucks will use some of the savings from the new U.S. corporate tax cuts to give domestic employees pay raises, company stock and expanded benefits with a combined worth of more than $250 million, the company said on Wednesday.

Seattle-based Starbucks said it will give hourly and salaried employees, who received pay raises in January, a second wage increase in April.

It is giving additional stock grants to eligible employees on April 16. Coffee shop workers will receive a grant of at least $500 and store managers will receive $2,000 grants.

Starting July 1, all employees will accrue paid time off to care for themselves and loved ones when they are ill.

Starbucks also expanded its parental leave policy for cafe workers, giving non-birth parents up to six weeks of paid leave when welcoming a new child.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/24/sta...benefits-after-us-lowers-corporate-taxes.html
 
Liar Loan said:
Irvinecommuter cherrypicks two companies, one of which was already bankrupt before the tax plan was passed, to make his point.  Meanwhile, close to 200 companies have declared increased bonuses or pay for their employees. 

Just another day in Trumpland:

Starbucks to boost worker pay and benefits after US lowers corporate taxes
Starbucks will use some of the savings from the new U.S. corporate tax cuts to give domestic employees pay raises, company stock and expanded benefits with a combined worth of more than $250 million, the company said on Wednesday.

Seattle-based Starbucks said it will give hourly and salaried employees, who received pay raises in January, a second wage increase in April.

It is giving additional stock grants to eligible employees on April 16. Coffee shop workers will receive a grant of at least $500 and store managers will receive $2,000 grants.

Starting July 1, all employees will accrue paid time off to care for themselves and loved ones when they are ill.

Starbucks also expanded its parental leave policy for cafe workers, giving non-birth parents up to six weeks of paid leave when welcoming a new child.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/24/sta...benefits-after-us-lowers-corporate-taxes.html
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I didn't pick Toys...moreakos did.  Again..I am saying that the layoffs are going to come...right now..it's all PR.
 
Man , are we still stuck on this ... one new plant here , one plant closed there ... one bonus there , one layoff here  ... my eyes hurt by now. 

what we ought to be concerned about now is the complete collapse in the US dollar .. overheating and inflation are on its way and we finally have a proper boom and bust cycle going - I am not talking of housing here , but watch out this summer when the earnings targets that have been lofted higher on tax cuts etc start to get revised down (weak dollar helps , but inflation and margin squeeze hurts more)  it will be a case of be careful what you wish for ...
 
fortune11 said:
Man , are we still stuck on this ... one new plant here , one plant closed there ... one bonus there , one layoff here  ... my eyes hurt by now. 

what we ought to be concerned about now is the complete collapse in the US dollar .. overheating and inflation are on its way and we finally have a proper boom and bust cycle going - I am not talking of housing here , but watch out this summer when the earnings targets that have been lofted higher on tax cuts etc start to get revised down (weak dollar helps , but inflation and margin squeeze hurts more)  it will be a case of be careful what you wish for ...
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That's why I think this whole pretending that the tax cut is the miracle cure...companies have been hoard cash for years. 

Maybe I should sell those financial stocks.
 
Go for it. I will side with Dalio...

Billionaire hedge fund manager Ray Dalio says market surge ahead: 'If you're holding cash, you're going to feel pretty stupid'

"We are in this Goldilocks period right now. Inflation isn't a problem. Growth is good, everything is pretty good with a big jolt of stimulation coming from changes in tax laws," Ray Dalio told CNBC on Tuesday from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
The investor said we're in the late part of the cycle and predicts we will see "a market blowoff" rally, fueled by cash from banks, corporations and investors.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/23/ray-dalio-says-market-surge-may-be-ahead-if-youre-holding-cash-youre-going-to-feel-pretty-stupid.html
 
Kings said:
GOP trolls Dems with 'I shut down the government' t-shirt
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http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/370296-gop-trolls-dems-with-i-shut-down-the-government-t-shirt

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The shut down is a good thing according to Eric Trump
https://www.google.com/amp/www.news...s-government-shutdown-good-thing-786219?amp=1
 
eyephone said:
Kings said:
GOP trolls Dems with 'I shut down the government' t-shirt
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http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/370296-gop-trolls-dems-with-i-shut-down-the-government-t-shirt

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The shut down is a good thing according to Eric Trump
https://www.google.com/amp/www.news...s-government-shutdown-good-thing-786219?amp=1
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When your whole platform is "resist" (aka do nothing), the public starts to notice.  Shutdown was the dems sticking a shovel into the ground and beginning to dig their own grave.
 
I am not sick of winning yet but I get closer each day!!

JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon says Trump's tax cut will lead to economic boom this year

Dimon says economic growth could hit 4 percent this year.
In a CNBC interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Dimon also expressed strong support for the tax overhaul, predicting it will boost capital investment and job creation.

The bank said Tuesday it will spend $20 billion over five years to raise hourly pay for works and open branches in new U.S. locations in the wake of the tax cut.

"We're adding sales people, opening more branches," he said. "We think it is good for J.P. Morgan, and we think it's going to be very good for the economy."

"When you make it sound like you're giving money to rich corporations, ... the fact is that is somewhat true [but] my argument is capital investment in America drives wages [for everyone]," he said. "We're supported by 40,000 vendors. When we open those 400 branches we're talking about, there's going to be hundreds of jobs supporting those branches."

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/24/jp-morgan-ceo-jamie-dimon-says-tax-cut-will-lead-to-higher-wages-inflation.html
 
Turn on CNBC the whole world economy is doing good not just the US.

morekaos said:
I am not sick of winning yet but I get closer each day!!

JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon says Trump's tax cut will lead to economic boom this year

Dimon says economic growth could hit 4 percent this year.
In a CNBC interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Dimon also expressed strong support for the tax overhaul, predicting it will boost capital investment and job creation.

The bank said Tuesday it will spend $20 billion over five years to raise hourly pay for works and open branches in new U.S. locations in the wake of the tax cut.

"We're adding sales people, opening more branches," he said. "We think it is good for J.P. Morgan, and we think it's going to be very good for the economy."

"When you make it sound like you're giving money to rich corporations, ... the fact is that is somewhat true [but] my argument is capital investment in America drives wages [for everyone]," he said. "We're supported by 40,000 vendors. When we open those 400 branches we're talking about, there's going to be hundreds of jobs supporting those branches."

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/24/jp-morgan-ceo-jamie-dimon-says-tax-cut-will-lead-to-higher-wages-inflation.html
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But who is pushing and who is pulling?

Reasons Why The US Will Dominate The World Economy For The Foreseeable Future

You put these three things together and you get a United States that is transitioning from being the global guarantor of security, global trade, and energy markets to one that, at best, has stepped back from it all and, more likely, even sees a vested interest in disrupting it to a certain degree. At the same time, the U.S. is the only market. The split between successful countries and failed countries in the future is how well can you buddy up with the only country that matters? Everything else is going to be a free for all. In the United States, you have the market, the financial capital, the labor system, the consumption base, the energy?and you can project power out, rather than have to defend your own borders. That does not exist anywhere else on the planet, and is not going to exist anywhere else on the planet in the next fifty years. The only question in my mind for the last few years has been ?What is the speed of the transition?? Under a President Hillary Clinton, it would have taken four to eight years. Under President-elect Donald Trump, it will probably take four to eight months. The year 2017 is shaping up to be the most dynamic year in international affairs since at least 1945.
[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhigh/2016/12/05/reasons-why-the-us-will-dominate-the-world-economy-for-the-foreseeable-future/#494aaf39501e[/url]
 
eyephone said:
Turn on CNBC the whole world economy is doing good not just the US.
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sigh .. exactly !    and this is why this cacophony is becoming less relevant day by day

wish there was a way to mute this thread from the recent posts feed ... with the large font, it just dominates the whole view .. and I bet I am not the only one on this forum thinking this way (regardless of political leanings)
 
fortune11 said:
eyephone said:
Turn on CNBC the whole world economy is doing good not just the US.
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sigh .. exactly !    and this is why this cacophony is becoming less relevant day by day

wish there was a way to mute this thread from the recent posts feed ... with the large font, it just dominates the whole view .. and I bet I am not the only one on this forum thinking this way (regardless of political leanings)
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I expect this thread will fade away... in about 7 years or so.
 
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
eyephone said:
Turn on CNBC the whole world economy is doing good not just the US.
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sigh .. exactly !    and this is why this cacophony is becoming less relevant day by day

wish there was a way to mute this thread from the recent posts feed ... with the large font, it just dominates the whole view .. and I bet I am not the only one on this forum thinking this way (regardless of political leanings)
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I expect this thread will fade away... in about 7 years or so.
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Yeah right. More like less than 3.
 
eyephone said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
eyephone said:
Turn on CNBC the whole world economy is doing good not just the US.
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sigh .. exactly !    and this is why this cacophony is becoming less relevant day by day

wish there was a way to mute this thread from the recent posts feed ... with the large font, it just dominates the whole view .. and I bet I am not the only one on this forum thinking this way (regardless of political leanings)
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I expect this thread will fade away... in about 7 years or so.
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Yeah right. More like less than 3.
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I don't know what the protocols are on this forum as I haven't really been active as long , but generally speaking , excessive use of large font / all caps and / flaming colors is considered abuse of forum privileges in any other forum. 

people can keep posting whatever they want with occasional emphasis but need to just "tone" it down a bit in terms of graphics ...  I guess I am cueing up for " yeaah snowflake  "  reaction from some predictable quarters on this forum. 
 
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