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Perspective said:
I'll reserve full judgment for a final tax plan scored by its effect on deficits/debt, but I like the preliminary plan. Cutting taxes is great, but they'll need to cut spending too<snip>
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The budget has previously been posted.  Have at it.  Trump says hecwants to massively rebuild our military.  That's free?

So please show us how reducing tax receipts will balance .
 
nosuchreality said:
Perspective said:
I'll reserve full judgment for a final tax plan scored by its effect on deficits/debt, but I like the preliminary plan. Cutting taxes is great, but they'll need to cut spending too<snip>
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The budget has previously been posted.  Have at it.  Trump says hecwants to massively rebuild our military.  That's free?

So please show us how reducing tax receipts will balance .
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No balancing is necessary. Democrats are the "Tax & Spend" party and Republicans are the "Spend & Grow the Debt" party.
 
So some small riots in sweden.  Do they state which "group" of people are in these "no go" areas?  Not trolling.. just wondering because it's hard to get or find that info. 
 
jmoney74 said:
So some small riots in sweden.  Do they state which "group" of people are in these "no go" areas?  Not trolling.. just wondering because it's hard to get or find that info. 
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The district that the riots took place in is 75% immigrant, one of the largest immigrant populations in Stockholm. The No Go zones are a result of large-scale immigration. Sweden has taken in 190,000 refugees over the past few years. Drug crimes and sexual assaults are on the rise. "There were at 66.5 cases of reported rapes per 100,000 inhabitants last year, up from 24.9 in 2003."
 
I wonder..

Trump may have garbled the message but Sweden IS experiencing a migrant crime wave, according to cop accused of 'inciting racial hatred' after online rant about 'criminal immigrants'

Trump said on Saturday that something terrible had happened in Sweden
Many thought he'd invented a terrorist attack, but he said he was talking crime
On Feb 3, a veteran cop in the Swedish city of Orebro wrote a weary rant
He blamed 'criminal immigrants' from Muslim countries for most crimes there
The cop, Peter Springaire, said he was not blaming all immigrants or refugees
But he said officials were ignoring the issue of incompatible cultures mixing
Sweden accepted  650K asylum seekers 15 years, 163K in 2015 alone

That's an opinion Peter Springaire - an investigator in Orebro's Serious Crimes Squad who says he has 47 years' experience on the force - might agree with, Fox News said.

On February 3, Springaire posted a rant against criminal immigrants that began 'I'm so f**king tired.'
Warning that his words were 'not politically correct,' he went on to list the crimes his team had faced that week.
They were five rapes, three counts of assault - including one against police - two drug offenses, multiple threats, extortion and attempted murder.
Then he offered a list of 'suspected perpetrators': 'Ali Mohamad Mahmod, Mohammed, Mohammed Ali, again, again, again...
'Christoffer ... huh, it is true. Yes a Swedish name crept into the outskirts of a drug offense, Mohammed Mahmod Ali, again and again.'
Springaire said with the exception of the lone Swede, those criminals either had no documentation or came from a series of Islam-majority countries, naming Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.
'Now we are only talking about Orebro,' he added. 'And these crimes occupy our investigative capacity to 100%. This is how it looks and has looked for the last 10-15 years.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4243442/Sweden-suffering-migrant-crime-wave-says-cop.html
 
Wow maybe Trump leaked the intel. So everyone who was flaming Trump, what you say?
 
Since we're all Swedish experts, I like this article betterhttp://www.thelocal.se/20170208/swedish-police-officer-causes-controversy-with-facebook-post

On Tuesday, Sweden's Prime Minister Stefan L?fven challenged the police officer's claims.

"I don't know how it looks in ?rebro, but from a broader perspective I find it very difficult to see that one hundred percent of police resources are taken up by crimes which are committed by immigrants. I have a very, very hard time accepting that picture, I want to state that it is wrong," he told newspaper Expressen.
Asked if police officers should be allowed to express their opinions in this way, L?fven said freedom of expression is important.

"Police officers like all others are allowed to express their opinions, we have freedom of expression in our country, and we should stand up for that. But providing an accurate image also applies."

Sweden does not record official statistics on the ethnicity of criminals. 
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There are also these
http://nyheter24.se/debatt/876674-j...re-i-orebro-90-av-de-jag-utredde-var-svenskar
http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/a/M0Re0/vems-arenden-gar-du-peter-springare



 
Nobody said they were experts. Just finding out what is going on over there.
 
Oh now I understand..it's clear from this quote from your articles...

DEBATT. Polisen Peter Springare har f?tt mycket uppm?rksamhet den senaste veckan, genom att han offentligt beklagat sig ?ver alla brott han kommer i kontakt med d?r invandrare ?r misst?nkta g?rningsm?n.
Det har han naturligtvis all r?tt att g?ra. Och allehanda rasister och smygrasister har all r?tt att hylla honom s? som de gjort. Vi har ju yttrandefrihet i Sverige. Men ? sedan sket det sig.
Innan diverse rasistiska n?ttroll nu kastar sig ?ver tangentbordet, vill jag klarg?ra att jag inte kommer att f?rsvara minsta lilla brott som invandrare gjort sig skyldiga till. Beg?r man brott ska man lagf?ras oavsett om man ?r invandrare eller svensk sedan m?nga generationer bak?t.
?r brottet grovt kan man som invandrare med utl?nds
 
morekaos said:
Oh now I understand..it's clear from this quote from your articles...

DEBATT. Polisen Peter Springare har f?tt mycket uppm?rksamhet den senaste veckan, genom att han offentligt beklagat sig ?ver alla brott han kommer i kontakt med d?r invandrare ?r misst?nkta g?rningsm?n.
Det har han naturligtvis all r?tt att g?ra. Och allehanda rasister och smygrasister har all r?tt att hylla honom s? som de gjort. Vi har ju yttrandefrihet i Sverige. Men ? sedan sket det sig.
Innan diverse rasistiska n?ttroll nu kastar sig ?ver tangentbordet, vill jag klarg?ra att jag inte kommer att f?rsvara minsta lilla brott som invandrare gjort sig skyldiga till. Beg?r man brott ska man lagf?ras oavsett om man ?r invandrare eller svensk sedan m?nga generationer bak?t.
?r brottet grovt kan man som invandrare med utl?nds
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Lol
 
morekaos said:
Oh now I understand..it's clear from this quote from your articles...
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That guy is quite a character. Like I said before, out of touch and missing the point. He is consistent.
 
Movingup said:
morekaos said:
Oh now I understand..it's clear from this quote from your articles...
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That guy is quite a character. Like I said before, out of touch and missing the point. He is consistent.
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If only we were all more in touch with our inner bigots and moronic tendencies.  Life would be so much better  : )   

Off to drink a " foot shot " (bold red font)

 
fortune11 said:
Movingup said:
morekaos said:
Oh now I understand..it's clear from this quote from your articles...
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That guy is quite a character. Like I said before, out of touch and missing the point. He is consistent.
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If only we were all more in touch with our inner bigots and moronic tendencies.  Life would be so much better  : )   

Off to drink a " foot shot " (bold red font)
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There's a certain freedom to simple mindedness and ignorance.
 
Perspective said:
fortune11 said:
Movingup said:
morekaos said:
Oh now I understand..it's clear from this quote from your articles...
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That guy is quite a character. Like I said before, out of touch and missing the point. He is consistent.
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If only we were all more in touch with our inner bigots and moronic tendencies.  Life would be so much better  : )   

Off to drink a " foot shot " (bold red font)
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There's a certain freedom to simple mindedness and ignorance.
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Wah wah wah ad hominem. Lol.
 
morekaos said:
Oh now I understand..it's clear from this quote from your articles...

DEBATT. Polisen Peter Springare har f?tt mycket uppm?rksamhet den senaste veckan, genom att han offentligt beklagat sig ?ver alla brott han kommer i kontakt med d?r invandrare ?r misst?nkta g?rningsm?n.
Det har han naturligtvis all r?tt att g?ra. Och allehanda rasister och smygrasister har all r?tt att hylla honom s? som de gjort. Vi har ju yttrandefrihet i Sverige. Men ? sedan sket det sig.
Innan diverse rasistiska n?ttroll nu kastar sig ?ver tangentbordet, vill jag klarg?ra att jag inte kommer att f?rsvara minsta lilla brott som invandrare gjort sig skyldiga till. Beg?r man brott ska man lagf?ras oavsett om man ?r invandrare eller svensk sedan m?nga generationer bak?t.
?r brottet grovt kan man som invandrare med utl?nds
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I had to translate:
DEBATE. Police Peter Knight has received much attention in the past week, in that he publicly complained about all the crimes he comes in contact with the migrants are suspected perpetrators.
He has of course every right to do. And all sorts of racists and stealth racists have every right to honor him as they did. We have freedom of speech in Sweden. But - then shit it out.
Before assorted racist pretty matter now throw themselves over the keyboard, I want to clarify that I am not going to defend every crime that immigrants guilty. Committing one offense should be prosecuted regardless of whether they are immigrants or Swedish for many generations.
If the offense is serious can of migrants Abroad[...]
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morekaos said:
All the hyperbolic talk, all the kicking and screaming, all the "huge "protests and outpouring of support will be for naught. Go ahead, don't like this Supreme Court candidate? Tough luck he will be approved.  Don't like DeVoss or this particular Secretary of State?  Tough toenails they will be approved. Don't like a pipeline. Scream your lungs out snowflakes...it will be built.  This is all theater. As our previous President loved to point out, "elections have consequences." Suck it up and live with them...we had to for the last 8 years.  Now we get to drive. Like him or hate him he is and will deliver on his promises. Protest away, nothing will change.
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Useless and in the end, ineffective...

The Activist's Dilemma: The More We Shout ? The Less They Care?

Extreme protest tactics get on TV but turn off audiences, says social science.

The first official month of the Trump era saw a burning limo and a viral Nazi punch, a window-smashing black bloc at UC Berkeley, and a steady pace of "cathartic" Resistance marches. "Not My President's Day" having come and gone, MoveOn.org's next feast day is April 15th when the observant will join a multi-city Tax March. Hey, it's a living. Plus, if someone smashes a window or starts a fire? It's great TV, and free publicity for the cause.

That's just the problem, found Feinberg, et al.: The more extreme a protest or demonstration, the more media attention it gets. But the more extreme the protest, the less likely it is the folks at home will identify with its motivating spirit. This trade-off, between publicity and influence, they call "the activist's dilemma."

Extreme tactics, violent rhetoric or illegal actions, make protesters and their cause less sympathetic.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-activists-dilemma-the-more-we-shout-the-less-they-care/article/2006924
 
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