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Movingup said:
fortune11 said:
(stereotype warning ahead) that base is made up heavily of rural seniors (more generally 55+) that are the highest  voting % among all age groups and are concentrated in states like Florida and in the midwest.  they  get their news primarily from fox (hannity is their favorite) and from Facebook from like minded circles. 

I expect jeff sessions (new AG)  to work extra hard to make voting as difficult as possible for younger voters in metro and urban areas.  I hope I am wrong.

older voters are also why I think  Newport Beach was an island of red in a sea of blue last November
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Where are the sources to back up your claims? Until then, you have mastered the Fake News!
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Also, this from last year
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...0c1087f7583_story.html?utm_term=.a38b1ab28192


U.S. District Judge James D. Peterson suggested he would strike the entire law if he were not bound by the Supreme Court?s decision that states may use properly written voter-ID laws to guard against voter fraud.

?The evidence in this case casts doubt on the notion that voter ID laws foster integrity and confidence,? Peterson wrote. ?The Wisconsin experience demonstrates that a preoccupation with mostly phantom election fraud leads to real incidents of disenfranchisement, which undermine rather than enhance confidence in elections, particularly in minority communities. To put it bluntly, Wisconsin?s strict version of voter ID law is a cure worse than the disease.? The state will appeal both rulings.

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina?s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

?The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision? and ?impose cures for problems that did not exist,? Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. ?Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State?s true motivation.?
 
fortune11 said:
Movingup said:
fortune11 said:
(stereotype warning ahead) that base is made up heavily of rural seniors (more generally 55+) that are the highest  voting % among all age groups and are concentrated in states like Florida and in the midwest.  they  get their news primarily from fox (hannity is their favorite) and from Facebook from like minded circles. 

I expect jeff sessions (new AG)  to work extra hard to make voting as difficult as possible for younger voters in metro and urban areas.  I hope I am wrong.

older voters are also why I think  Newport Beach was an island of red in a sea of blue last November
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Where are the sources to back up your claims? Until then, you have mastered the Fake News!
Click to expand...

Also, this from last year
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...0c1087f7583_story.html?utm_term=.a38b1ab28192


U.S. District Judge James D. Peterson suggested he would strike the entire law if he were not bound by the Supreme Court?s decision that states may use properly written voter-ID laws to guard against voter fraud.

?The evidence in this case casts doubt on the notion that voter ID laws foster integrity and confidence,? Peterson wrote. ?The Wisconsin experience demonstrates that a preoccupation with mostly phantom election fraud leads to real incidents of disenfranchisement, which undermine rather than enhance confidence in elections, particularly in minority communities. To put it bluntly, Wisconsin?s strict version of voter ID law is a cure worse than the disease.? The state will appeal both rulings.

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina?s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

?The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision? and ?impose cures for problems that did not exist,? Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. ?Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State?s true motivation.?
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The piece regarding voter ID law you are quoting has nothing to do with you claims that majority of Trump supporters are seniors in rural counties. Many congressional districts where Trump won were supporting Obama in the last election. And what does your voter ID piece has to do with our AG?

Fake News confirmed. I think you are confuse, better take a break from posting.
 
Trumpism is very familiar to Europeans

What Donald Trump has in common with Marine Le Pen and Geert Wilders
http://www.economist.com/news/unite...marine-le-pen-and-geert-wilders-trumpism-very

"His chief ideological adviser, Stephen Bannon, openly yearns for a more closed, clannish America. In a 2015 radio interview Mr Bannon grumbled about the number of Silicon Valley CEOs from Asia, saying: ?A country is more than an economy. We?re a civic society.? Candidate Trump promised to be ?very loyal to the country? and that ?American hands will rebuild this nation?. In a post-election speech he laid out his credo: ?The relationships that people value in this country are local: family, state, country,? he thundered. Similar language thrills many in ageing, anxious Europe. It resonates in Trump?s America?a world of rural counties and small, bleak towns that, on many measures, is more like Europe. Polling data show that Trump supporters have a median age of 57, almost nine in ten of them are white, and most do not have college degrees. Overall, Americans have a median age of 38 and attend college at steadily rising rates; about a third of them are non-white. Trumpian nationalism is potent stuff. It is also backward-looking and tribal. That?s not the American way."
 
Movingup said:
fortune11 said:
Movingup said:
fortune11 said:
(stereotype warning ahead) that base is made up heavily of rural seniors (more generally 55+) that are the highest  voting % among all age groups and are concentrated in states like Florida and in the midwest.  they  get their news primarily from fox (hannity is their favorite) and from Facebook from like minded circles. 

I expect jeff sessions (new AG)  to work extra hard to make voting as difficult as possible for younger voters in metro and urban areas.  I hope I am wrong.

older voters are also why I think  Newport Beach was an island of red in a sea of blue last November
Click to expand...

Where are the sources to back up your claims? Until then, you have mastered the Fake News!
Click to expand...

Also, this from last year
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...0c1087f7583_story.html?utm_term=.a38b1ab28192


U.S. District Judge James D. Peterson suggested he would strike the entire law if he were not bound by the Supreme Court?s decision that states may use properly written voter-ID laws to guard against voter fraud.

?The evidence in this case casts doubt on the notion that voter ID laws foster integrity and confidence,? Peterson wrote. ?The Wisconsin experience demonstrates that a preoccupation with mostly phantom election fraud leads to real incidents of disenfranchisement, which undermine rather than enhance confidence in elections, particularly in minority communities. To put it bluntly, Wisconsin?s strict version of voter ID law is a cure worse than the disease.? The state will appeal both rulings.

In the North Carolina case, the 4th Circuit panel agreed with allegations that North Carolina?s omnibus bill selectively chose voter-ID requirements, reduced the number of early-voting days and changed registration procedures in ways meant to harm blacks, who overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party.

?The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision? and ?impose cures for problems that did not exist,? Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. ?Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State?s true motivation.?
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The piece regarding voter ID law you are quoting has nothing to do with you claims that majority of Trump supporters are seniors in rural counties. Many congressional districts where Trump won were supporting Obama in the last election. And what does your voter ID piece has to do with our AG?

Fake News confirmed. I think you are confuse, better take a break from posting.
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Perfect - you said it yourself,  many Trump voters flipped from Obama.  But many are still supporting him .  Take a look at the attached Pew poll ( maybe you will scream polls are fake, but thats alright )

As to not posting, maybe you started this thread as a "safe space" for Trump supporters like yourself .  But this a public forum and some of the nonsense being spewed needs to be counteracted. 

What does " fake news. " even mean - I am not providing any " news" here .  just stating my opinions, along side a few facts , and also mentioning where I could be wrong and where I hope I am wrong for the sake of the country.  Unlike you I am not parroting the language of my all-powerful "cult leader ". 

 

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Fake News ... How about a Fake TV Station :)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/nyregion/unf-news-kyle-mazza.html?smid=tw-share

During President Trump?s strenuous and freewheeling news conference on Thursday, there emerged a brief respite from the pointed questions about Russia, national security, immigration policy and chaos at the White House.

?Mr. President,? a reporter began, ?Melania Trump announced the reopening of the White House Visitors Office. And she does a lot of great work for the country as well. Can you tell us a little bit about what first lady Melania Trump does for the country??

Mr. Trump lowered his combative tone. ?Now, that?s what I call a nice question,? he said. ?That is very ? who are you with??

The answer ? UNF News ? barely registered with Mr. Trump.

?Good,? the president said. ?I?m going to start watching, all right??

UNF News is not a television network or a radio network, for that matter. UNF, or Universal News Forever, is the baby, identity, passion and obsession of Kyle Mazza, 19, who posed the question about Mrs. Trump.

UNF News, Mr. Mazza said in an interview on Friday, was his ?own news station that I started when I was 8 years old.?

If Mr. Trump were to start paying attention to UNF News, it would be a start: The network has neither advertisers nor subscribers.
 
fortune11 said:
What does " fake news. " even mean - I am not providing any " news" here .  just stating my opinions, along side a few facts , and also mentioning where I could be wrong and where I hope I am wrong for the sake of the country.  Unlike you I am not parroting the language of my all-powerful "cult leader ".
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I get it. So you are not spreading fake news as if you have proof of what you said, but you are making things up? Because the sources and links you provided are totally unrelated to what you said regarding the AG is going to suppress votes from young voters and majority of Floridians and people from the Midwest of 55+ voted Trump.

Anyways, your opinions cannot be taken seriously other than far-left entertainment. Tell you what, we have a President, it's not Hillary, so whining about who voted for Trump is a waste of time at this point. Making this country great is about creating good jobs, improving our economy, improving confidence of our future, securing our border, so our citizens and children are safe from crime and narcotics easily ship over from Mexico, implementing a better healthcare system for all, make ourselves strong again globally. The President is doing everything he said prior to being elected.
 
Movingup said:
fortune11 said:
What does " fake news. " even mean - I am not providing any " news" here .  just stating my opinions, along side a few facts , and also mentioning where I could be wrong and where I hope I am wrong for the sake of the country.  Unlike you I am not parroting the language of my all-powerful "cult leader ".
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I get it. So you are not spreading fake news as if you have proof of what you said, but you are making things up? Because the sources and links you provided are totally unrelated to what you said regarding the AG is going to suppress votes from young voters and majority of Floridians and people from the Midwest of 55+ voted Trump.

Anyways, your opinions cannot be taken seriously other than far-left entertainment. Tell you what, we have a President, it's not Hillary, so whining about who voted for Trump is a waste of time at this point. Making this country great is about creating good jobs, improving our economy, improving confidence of our future, securing our border, so our citizens and children are safe from crime and narcotics easily ship over from Mexico, implementing a better healthcare system for all, make ourselves strong again globally. The President is doing everything he said prior to being elected.
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you realize in your rush to pass judgement , you are living up to every Trump voter stereotype ?  I listed voting data by county (to prove Newport Beach voted for Trump), I linked to a news article showing GOP tactics used in North Carolina for voter suppression (something  Sessions has himself said he wants to do), and I showed a recent Pew poll that shows older voters sticking with Trump despite all the batshit craziness he has shown so far.  But like other Trump cult members , you seem to ignore all that just to get to the schoolyard joy of calling someone else  " a far left liberal " .  "Loser " , "Sad " anything else you want to throw in there while you are at it :)

Its futile to have rational arguments dealing with Trump supporters and their personal insecurities (which they try to compensate for just like their messiah does) since they will stick with him to the very end. Even half of Nixon voters supported him to the day he left office.   

Not all Trump voters in Nov 2016 are Trump supporters now - and thats the zone that needs to be convinced to get this treasonous crew out of the White House now before they cause significant damage. 

"Making this country great is about creating good jobs, improving our economy, improving confidence of our future, securing our border, so our citizens and children are safe from crime and narcotics easily ship over from Mexico, implementing a better healthcare system for all, make ourselves strong again globally"


talking about evidence do you have any proof that the steps he has taken so far are achieving any of these goals ?  Or are you just copying and pasting your cult leader's talking points. 

 
Not just CNN but other news networks have been trying to deceive or sensationalize stories for the last decade.  It's not a liberal or conservative thing... Just networks baiting people to get emotional about things that aren't a big deal.
 
jmoney74 said:
Not just CNN but other news networks have been trying to deceive or sensationalize stories for the last decade.  It's not a liberal or conservative thing... Just networks baiting people to get emotional about things that aren't a big deal.
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Broadcast journalism is more entertainment than journalism. TV is not a source for serious political conversations. Someone needs to tell Trump.
 
I'll reserve full judgment for a final tax plan scored by its effect on deficits/debt, but I like the preliminary plan. Cutting taxes is great, but they'll need to cut spending too.

"For individual taxpayers, Trump's proposal boils down to simplification. Currently, the tax schedule contains seven brackets ranging from a low of 10% to a peak of 39.6%. Trump's individual income tax proposal contains just three tax brackets, as shown above.

If the above proposal looks in some way familiar, it's probably because the 12%/25%/33% three-tier individual income tax schedule was previously devised by House Republicans. Trump's willingness to change from his initially proposed tax plan in 2015 that included four brackets to three brackets could signify his willingness to compromise with a Republican-led Congress to get the current tax code amended.

Additionally, Trump's individual income tax proposal would pump up standard deductions for individual and married filers, while at the same time eliminating practically all itemized deductions. The charitable giving deduction and the mortgage interest deduction would be among the very few exceptions to survive. On the other hand, the estate tax, alternative minimum tax, net investment income tax, and Medicare surtax, along with the head-of-household filing status, would be eliminated."
https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017/01/23/the-most-disappointing-aspect-of-trumps-tax-plan-i.aspx
 
Perspective said:
jmoney74 said:
Not just CNN but other news networks have been trying to deceive or sensationalize stories for the last decade.  It's not a liberal or conservative thing... Just networks baiting people to get emotional about things that aren't a big deal.
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Broadcast journalism is more entertainment than journalism. TV is not a source for serious political conversations. Someone needs to tell Trump.
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Trump owes his election in part to  the 1bn+ free coverage provided by CNN and others .  Although I must say someone like Jake Tapper or Chris Wallace much more objective than the clowns on Fox and Friends which is Trump's favorite show (as he said himself). 
 
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