Orchard Hills - Capella by Taylor Morrison

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ps9 said:
I'd go with La Vita as well at this price, people view the piazza/motorcourt negatively, but I don't believe it will be that bad.  It is HOA controlled, and a good place for kids to play.  The additional lot size is definitely worth it, not because we use the backyard that much, but as the all important privacy buffer between your lot and neighbors/public land. 
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I wonder who is responsible for maintaining the piazza?  The Grove's HOA?  Than does La Vita has higher HOA fee because of piazza?

Edit:  I just double check La Vita's info sheet, looks like La Vita is paying the same HOA of $279 as rest of the Grove.  I guess the Grove's HOA is responsible for maintaining the piazza. 
 
I'm telling you, Homie needs to buy 4 for him, me, ps9 and qwerchete and we can have TI full court basketball every weekend in the piazza.
 
OCgasman said:
If Capella is now starting at $1.4M the delta between Capella and La Vita plan 1 non-view is probably less than $100k.  That being said, La Vita plan 1 is the most generic of the 4 floor plans and plan 1 lots aren't that much bigger than Capella and you have to deal with the stupid motor court design.
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you can kind of overlook the tiny lots of capella for 1.3, but once you start getting to 1.4 and higher then it seems a bit more ridiculous that you can touch the back wall of your yard from your house.  especially when you realize that just because it's in orchard hills it's a 350-400K premium over quinterra.
 
dethman said:
ps9 said:
So your Messina neighbors can also use the piazza? 
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was there anything IN the piazza?  i saw a few benches and some small trees near the models.
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perfect!  i'll push my bbq out into the piazza and have a neighborhood chill and grill, followed by pool party at the plan 4. 
 
dethman said:
OCgasman said:
If Capella is now starting at $1.4M the delta between Capella and La Vita plan 1 non-view is probably less than $100k.  That being said, La Vita plan 1 is the most generic of the 4 floor plans and plan 1 lots aren't that much bigger than Capella and you have to deal with the stupid motor court design.
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you can kind of overlook the tiny lots of capella for 1.3, but once you start getting to 1.4 and higher then it seems a bit more ridiculous that you can touch the back wall of your yard from your house.  especially when you realize that just because it's in orchard hills it's a 350-400K premium over quinterra.
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I agree, I would be hesitant to buy these at base price over $1.4mil. We put close to 100k in upgrades and still were able to stay under 1.4. If I had to buy it and with upgrades it was hitting over 1.5 range I'd go for a larger lot at la vita or Vicenza plan 1.
 
WTTCMN said:
irvinehomeowner said:
I'm telling you, Homie needs to buy 4 for him, me, ps9 and qwerchete and we can have TI full court basketball every weekend in the piazza.
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I know I'm just the "wife" but don't you need 5 people to a team and then another 5 to play a game?
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We need to buy the 4 homes on the piazza first... then we can may make 4-on-4 or 5-on-5 full court teams after. :)

Edit: Dang phone typo.
 
ps9 said:
I'd go with La Vita as well at this price, people view the piazza/motorcourt negatively, but I don't believe it will be that bad.  It is HOA controlled, and a good place for kids to play.  The additional lot size is definitely worth it, not because we use the backyard that much, but as the all important privacy buffer between your lot and neighbors/public land.
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I dont have that kind of faith in any HOA security (or even IPD) to control FCBs.
I'm just imagining how that call would go:
"HELP! There's bunch of FCBs talking loudly, smoking and spitting in the motorcourt!"
"OK, we'll send out an FCB dispersal unit out right away."

It probably wont be that bad, but with Plan 4s currently running at $1.8M, I'm not willing to take the risk.

 
I've seen issues with neighbors in a normal street driveway setup, I can imagine that is magnified in a motorcourt setup.

And with the "reputation" of FCB drivers added to parking woes... not a good mix.
 
ps9 said:
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So the lots on Long Fence has a view lot premium?  What can you see from the shoebox yard? 
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Actually these Capella homes (lot 15 to lot 30) setting high above Vicenza.  Dove to Vicenza's lot and notice Capella's lot have decent elevation over vicenza's lot and I wonder if these home will have the glass wall instead of concrete block wall.

The big question is how much lot premium TM is going to charge for these lots.  Someone mention at least $100k but could it be $150k or $200k more?

Currently Capella is at $1.4 million and if these view lot's premium reach $150k, than these Capella home seriously reaches La Vita plan 1's price territory.  So Capella's view lot (smaller home, smaller lot) at over $1.5 million or La Vita's (motorcurt setup) at over $1.6 million.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I've seen issues with neighbors in a normal street driveway setup, I can imagine that is magnified in a motorcourt setup.

And with the "reputation" of FCB drivers added to parking woes... not a good mix.
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I can totally see ppl parking their cars half in/half out of the driveway or outright just parking in the shared motorcourt area next to their house.  People have issues with cars parking on the street in front of their house, imagine this happening in a motorcourt.  This is how bad blood starts with neighbors.  I bet street parking on the street between the La Vita motorcourts and Messina will always be filled with parked cars.  That one street is the only street parking for La Vita and it's shared with Messina.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I've seen issues with neighbors in a normal street driveway setup, I can imagine that is magnified in a motorcourt setup.

And with the "reputation" of FCB drivers added to parking woes... not a good mix.
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+1
This may be why I'm so leary of the concept.
I've served on HOA boards and have seen just how crazy, selfish and inconsiderate people can be.
I've seen bad neighbors impact the whole block.
So a bad apple in motorcourt would be disasterous.
 
lnc said:
ps9 said:
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So the lots on Long Fence has a view lot premium?  What can you see from the shoebox yard? 
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Actually these Capella homes (lot 15 to lot 30) setting high above Vicenza.  Dove to Vicenza's lot and notice Capella's lot have decent elevation over vicenza's lot and I wonder if these home will have the glass wall instead of concrete block wall.

The big question is how much lot premium TM is going to charge for these lots.  Someone mention at least $100k but could it be $150k or $200k more?

Currently Capella is at $1.4 million and if these view lot's premium reach $150k, than these Capella home seriously reaches La Vita plan 1's price territory.  So Capella's view lot (smaller home, smaller lot) at over $1.5 million or La Vita's (motorcurt setup) at over $1.6 million.
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Lots 30-32 have a glass wall.  I dont know about the rest.
Those lots look bigger too-- I'd guess at least 6k, but that's just a guess.
So, speculating, but it looks like for the same price, you'd get the view, the lot size, and no motorcourt.
 
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