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Are you sure? You may be in favor of free press.
Have you heard Trumps comments regarding the Press? He flips out of his wife watches a certain news channel.

The US Constitution is at stake now.



Soylent Green Is People said:
Everyone wants a free press. No one likes a biased press. If someone was to produce a stack of tapes from NPR culled over the past 3 years and at random drew out 1 hour of "news" I could cite at minimum 30 examples of bias by their reporters during that hour. It's the hostility by the insulated press towards a consuming public that is the primary cause of this present debate.

The first major break in press trust I believe was when Time, et al spiked the Monica Lewinsky story to protect their favorite son. Drudge blasted it out and internet news grew geometrically from there. To our benefit or detriment? Pretty hard to say. It's best to enjoy greater transparency and let opposing viewpoints be heard, but not so fantastic when all we seem to get today are shouting matches and Hitler analogies.


Some fun to drill down into if you have time to do so.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html

My neighborhood - Apartments and lower priced Condos - Blue. Higher priced homes and older areas - Red. Flipped, of course, in places like Laguna Beach. Your mileage may vary - enjoy!

My .02c
 
Soylent Green Is People said:
Everyone wants a free press. No one likes a biased press. If someone was to produce a stack of tapes from NPR culled over the past 3 years and at random drew out 1 hour of "news" I could cite at minimum 30 examples of bias by their reporters during that hour. It's the hostility by the insulated press towards a consuming public that is the primary cause of this present debate.

The first major break in press trust I believe was when Time, et al spiked the Monica Lewinsky story to protect their favorite son. Drudge blasted it out and internet news grew geometrically from there. To our benefit or detriment? Pretty hard to say. It's best to enjoy greater transparency and let opposing viewpoints be heard, but not so fantastic when all we seem to get today are shouting matches and Hitler analogies.


Some fun to drill down into if you have time to do so.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html

My neighborhood - Apartments and lower priced Condos - Blue. Higher priced homes and older areas - Red. Flipped, of course, in places like Laguna Beach. Your mileage may vary - enjoy!

My .02c

There is bias in all newsrooms, from choosing what to report, how much time to devote to each topic, and how to report on the topics. When the newsroom is full of educated metropolitan folks, the bias will lean left. Their journalistic responsibility is to be aware of this bias, and work to minimize it as much as possible.

Evaluating bias in "news" isn't a black-and-white conclusion. It's a question of extent and magnitude, based on how many people the news provider reaches multiplied by the level of bias in its coverage.
 
fortune11 said:
AP ? ?11 House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein.?

Atleast now we know who are at the top of the class of traitors .  The muller investigation etc is not just about trump , entire GOP is compromised, esp w the NRA connection

They abandoned the effort. Maybe because Paul Ryan was against it.

 
eyephone said:
fortune11 said:
AP ? ?11 House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein.?

Atleast now we know who are at the top of the class of traitors .  The muller investigation etc is not just about trump , entire GOP is compromised, esp w the NRA connection

They abandoned the effort. Maybe because Paul Ryan was against it.

Yes, but now the "Freedom" Caucus has established the threshold for impeachment proceedings. If the Democrats take the House, you can expect these co-conspirators to be reminded of this precedent (or is it "president" as Trump would use in this context?).

Speaking of these Tea Partiers, ten years after the Great Recession, why does this caucus still exist? They promised us that these bailouts of banks and ZIRP would result in massive taxpayer losses and hyper-inflation. They were completely wrong. Rick Santelli from CNBC still spews the nonsense on a daily basis.
 
The REAL QUESTION that none of the libs are asking is how much did Hillary Clinton?s servers know about the Trump sanctioned Trump Jr meeting with the Russians???  That is the real outrage IMO
 
fortune11 said:
Why is one party so scared of actual democracy and wants to make it more difficult for people to vote


In Searing Ruling, Judge Says Florida Can?t Block Campus Early Voting
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...rida-233350457.html?__twitter_impression=true

In the Republicans' defense, we are all currently living through the consequences of motivated poorly informed/educated citizens enthusiastically voting. There's a reason the founders allowed only a fraction of folks to vote - white male land owners.

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.
 
Perspective said:
fortune11 said:
Why is one party so scared of actual democracy and wants to make it more difficult for people to vote


In Searing Ruling, Judge Says Florida Can?t Block Campus Early Voting
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...rida-233350457.html?__twitter_impression=true

In the Republicans' defense, we are all currently living through the consequences of motivated poorly informed/educated citizens enthusiastically voting. There's a reason the founders allowed only a fraction of folks to vote - white male land owners.

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

So we make students take a 40 minutes to an hour bus ride each way to be able to vote ? How many supposedly educated and wealthy (and thereby more ?deserving citizens?) people here would vote if that was your only option ?

As to being informed , it is statistically proven that Fox News watching demographic , or older non college white voters are the least informed or the most ?ill informed ?
of all politically active voters out there (hence they keep voting against their own interests ) . I don?t see anyone trying to make voting more difficult for them .
 
Nice GDP number, albeit 25% below the promised 5%+.

Discussing GDP is wonkish. What does it really mean to the vast majority of folks? If your portfolio's doing well, and your income is strong and growing, do you think much about a low quarterly GDP report? If you're struggling in multiple low-paying jobs with a negative net worth and no reasonable prospects for improving your financials, do you care much that the quarterly GDP report is robust?

Politically, do you sell this as great news knowing that might insult folks struggling for whom it doesn't make any difference? If you sell a 4% figure as great, what do you do if the next quarter is 2%?
 
fortune11 said:
Perspective said:
fortune11 said:
Why is one party so scared of actual democracy and wants to make it more difficult for people to vote


In Searing Ruling, Judge Says Florida Can?t Block Campus Early Voting
https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...rida-233350457.html?__twitter_impression=true

In the Republicans' defense, we are all currently living through the consequences of motivated poorly informed/educated citizens enthusiastically voting. There's a reason the founders allowed only a fraction of folks to vote - white male land owners.

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

So we make students take a 40 minutes to an hour bus ride each way to be able to vote ? How many supposedly educated and wealthy (and thereby more ?deserving citizens?) people here would vote if that was your only option ?

As to being informed , it is statistically proven that Fox News watching demographic , or older non college white voters are the least informed or the most ?ill informed ?
of all politically active voters out there (hence they keep voting against their own interests ) . I don?t see anyone trying to make voting more difficult for them .

Don't mistake my snark above for disagreeing with your point. The Republicans are shameless and despicable for trying to prevent folks from voting. SCOTUS is supporting their effort too, making them accomplices in this.
 
Perspective said:
fortune11 said:
Why is one party so scared of actual democracy and wants to make it more difficult for people to vote
In Searing Ruling, Judge Says Florida Can?t Block Campus Early Votinghttps://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...rida-233350457.html?__twitter_impression=true
In the Republicans' defense, we are all currently living through the consequences of motivated poorly informed/educated citizens enthusiastically voting. There's a reason the founders allowed only a fraction of folks to vote - white male land owners.
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

The same opinion is not shared by all founding fathers.  Thomas Jefferson supported property requirement to vote, versus Benjamin Franklin did not:

?Today a man owns a jackass worth 50 dollars and he is entitled to vote; but before the next election the jackass dies. The man in the mean time has become more experienced, his knowledge of the principles of government, and his acquaintance with mankind, are more extensive, and he is therefore better qualified to make a proper selection of rulers ? but the jackass is dead and the man cannot vote. Now gentlemen, pray inform me, in whom is the right of suffrage? In the man or in the jackass??


It's interesting to note that James Sullivan may have proposed proportioning the vote based on asset holdings, per John Adam's letter to Sullivan:
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/06-04-02-0091

"As to your Idea, of proportioning the Votes of Men in Money Matters, to the Property they hold, it is utterly impracticable. There is no possible Way of Ascertaining, at any one Time, how much every Man in a Community, is worth; and if there was, So fluctuating is Trade and Property, that this State of it, would change in half an Hour. The Property of the whole Community, is Shifting every Hour, and no Record can be kept of the Changes."


In the US we did not have personal income tax until 1861.  Imagine if personal income tax was imposed earlier, would some of our Founding Fathers have proposed proportioning the value of your vote based on income tax paid in previous year?  That is, if you paid $100,000 in income (and property?) tax, your vote is worth 100,000 units, versus another who paid $50,000 in income tax, his vote is only worth 50,000 units in the election.
 
Perspective said:
Nice GDP number, albeit 25% below the promised 5%+.

Discussing GDP is wonkish. What does it really mean to the vast majority of folks? If your portfolio's doing well, and your income is strong and growing, do you think much about a low quarterly GDP report? If you're struggling in multiple low-paying jobs with a negative net worth and no reasonable prospects for improving your financials, do you care much that the quarterly GDP report is robust?

Politically, do you sell this as great news knowing that might insult folks struggling for whom it doesn't make any difference? If you sell a 4% figure as great, what do you do if the next quarter is 2%?

Agree

This is a flash in the pan , we will mean revert back in q3 and q4

The stock market is down nearly 1 percent today (and it?s not because of tech only )

 
Perspective said:
Nice GDP number, albeit 25% below the promised 5%+.

Discussing GDP is wonkish. What does it really mean to the vast majority of folks? If your portfolio's doing well, and your income is strong and growing, do you think much about a low quarterly GDP report? If you're struggling in multiple low-paying jobs with a negative net worth and no reasonable prospects for improving your financials, do you care much that the quarterly GDP report is robust?

Politically, do you sell this as great news knowing that might insult folks struggling for whom it doesn't make any difference? If you sell a 4% figure as great, what do you do if the next quarter is 2%?

Also note many companies issued warning due to the tarriffs.
 
fortune11 said:
Perspective said:
Nice GDP number, albeit 25% below the promised 5%+.

Discussing GDP is wonkish. What does it really mean to the vast majority of folks? If your portfolio's doing well, and your income is strong and growing, do you think much about a low quarterly GDP report? If you're struggling in multiple low-paying jobs with a negative net worth and no reasonable prospects for improving your financials, do you care much that the quarterly GDP report is robust?

Politically, do you sell this as great news knowing that might insult folks struggling for whom it doesn't make any difference? If you sell a 4% figure as great, what do you do if the next quarter is 2%?

Agree

This is a flash in the pan , we will mean revert back in q3 and q4

The stock market is down nearly 1 percent today (and it?s not because of tech only )


Oh wow! 1%?

Pray stocks go down, that is how u add stocks either for trading or longer term.


But u knew that. U just have to find something to complain about.
 
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Perspective said:
Nice GDP number, albeit 25% below the promised 5%+.

Discussing GDP is wonkish. What does it really mean to the vast majority of folks? If your portfolio's doing well, and your income is strong and growing, do you think much about a low quarterly GDP report? If you're struggling in multiple low-paying jobs with a negative net worth and no reasonable prospects for improving your financials, do you care much that the quarterly GDP report is robust?

Politically, do you sell this as great news knowing that might insult folks struggling for whom it doesn't make any difference? If you sell a 4% figure as great, what do you do if the next quarter is 2%?

Agree

This is a flash in the pan , we will mean revert back in q3 and q4

The stock market is down nearly 1 percent today (and it?s not because of tech only )


Oh wow! 1%?

Pray stocks go down, that is how u add stocks either for trading or longer term.


But u knew that. U just have to find something to complain about.

I was just stating a matter of fact that if market thought 4 percent was self sustaining it would start pricing it in , the 1 percent down reaction seems that 4 percent gdp print is immaterial to earnings outlook

Pay attention to what is actually being said and you may learn a thing or two which may help you with your own finances . You won?t get this level of nuance from watching fox business news .

as opposed to launching knee Jerk attacks on people
 
fortune11 said:
Ready2Downsize said:
fortune11 said:
Perspective said:
Nice GDP number, albeit 25% below the promised 5%+.

Discussing GDP is wonkish. What does it really mean to the vast majority of folks? If your portfolio's doing well, and your income is strong and growing, do you think much about a low quarterly GDP report? If you're struggling in multiple low-paying jobs with a negative net worth and no reasonable prospects for improving your financials, do you care much that the quarterly GDP report is robust?

Politically, do you sell this as great news knowing that might insult folks struggling for whom it doesn't make any difference? If you sell a 4% figure as great, what do you do if the next quarter is 2%?

Agree

This is a flash in the pan , we will mean revert back in q3 and q4

The stock market is down nearly 1 percent today (and it?s not because of tech only )


Oh wow! 1%?

Pray stocks go down, that is how u add stocks either for trading or longer term.


But u knew that. U just have to find something to complain about.

I was just stating a matter of fact that if market thought 4 percent was self sustaining it would start pricing it in , the 1 percent down reaction seems that 4 percent gdp print is immaterial to earnings outlook

Pay attention to what is actually being said and you may learn a thing or two which may help you with your own finances . You won?t get this level of nuance from watching fox business news .

as opposed to launching knee Jerk attacks on people

A. I don't need to watch the business news to know the old sayings: Sell in May and Go AWAY, Buy the Rumor, Sell the News, or to figure out that "the market" isn't even down 1% or to know that it's a market of stocks. Just because some high flyers are down big time, doesn't mean the entire market is down. LOL!

Should have shorted this puppy which had a 1 for 250 reverse split if you could find shares, if not there were plenty of put options available. Then even someone on margin isn't worried about a 1% drop in stocks.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HMNY/
 
?Foreign Affairs chair says Trump is ignoring sanctions on Russia for former spy poisoning

The Republican chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee is chastising President Donald Trump for ignoring a deadline to decide whether Russia should face sanctions for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain with a military-grade nerve agent.

The chairman, Rep. Ed Royce, R-Calif., in a letter to Trump on Thursday that was obtained by NBC News, said Trump?s enforcement of existing sanctions that punish chemical weapons users ?is critical to deterring additional attacks.? He said Trump?s administration had already blown through the statutory deadline by more than a month, and gave the president a new deadline of two weeks to tell Congress of his decision.?

Source:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna894961

My comment: Is this a shift? More Republicans speaking out.
 
Ha ha , now we are this level of justification.  What?s next (besides a deluge of gifs : )

Chris Christie on ABC: ??Collusion? is not a crime. And so the fact of the matter is that we?re a long way away yet from having anything to talk about here.?
 
fortune11 said:
Ha ha , now we are this level of justification.  What?s next (besides a deluge of gifs : )

Chris Christie on ABC: ??Collusion? is not a crime. And so the fact of the matter is that we?re a long way away yet from having anything to talk about here.?

since you asked nicely

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