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fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
what's factually wrong about the statement ?  it is simple math as to voter turnout and projections.

you really are living up to to your "Liar"  screen name now  , Trump couldn't have picked a better nickname for you himself :)

I don't know..  "fortune" seems like a pretty poor pick for you.  How rich can you be if you are this envious of older, white people?  8)

Maybe I consider myself fortunate to be living in southern California and Irvine.  Not sure how envious I should be of people like yourself who spent half their life on this forum ranting and complaining about their frustrations about living here and about every other ethnic group who looks and behaves different from them. 

Free Tip for you -- no matter how much actual money you have, if you are always worried and angry,  you are not wealthy !

I was hoping you would use this opportunity to reevaluate your racist views, but I see you would rather continue the hate.  C'est la vie.

In psychological terms , this (calling others racist when you actually are one) is referred to as "projection " .  Step outside your bond bubble and look it up : )

This is a defense mechanism that you use to be able to live with yourself.  In that sense you have learned very well from your cult leader.

No, I actually truly believe you are a racist.  It's not for the purposes of name calling.  I really, truly believe it.

I was hoping this dialogue would snap you awake and cause some introspection on your part.
 
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
what's factually wrong about the statement ?  it is simple math as to voter turnout and projections.

you really are living up to to your "Liar"  screen name now  , Trump couldn't have picked a better nickname for you himself :)

I don't know..  "fortune" seems like a pretty poor pick for you.  How rich can you be if you are this envious of older, white people?  8)

Maybe I consider myself fortunate to be living in southern California and Irvine.  Not sure how envious I should be of people like yourself who spent half their life on this forum ranting and complaining about their frustrations about living here and about every other ethnic group who looks and behaves different from them. 

Free Tip for you -- no matter how much actual money you have, if you are always worried and angry,  you are not wealthy !

I was hoping you would use this opportunity to reevaluate your racist views, but I see you would rather continue the hate.  C'est la vie.

In psychological terms , this (calling others racist when you actually are one) is referred to as "projection " .  Step outside your bond bubble and look it up : )

This is a defense mechanism that you use to be able to live with yourself.  In that sense you have learned very well from your cult leader.

No, I actually truly believe you are a racist.  It's not for the purposes of name calling.  I really, truly believe it.

I was hoping this dialogue would snap you awake and cause some introspection on your part.

Yes religious belief in others racism is how you deflect your own hatred .

You are simply proving my point but too thickheaded to actually see the irony of your statement

Maybe your fortunes must not be doing as good , what with the bond bubble bursting and all :)
 
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
what's factually wrong about the statement ?  it is simple math as to voter turnout and projections.

you really are living up to to your "Liar"  screen name now  , Trump couldn't have picked a better nickname for you himself :)

I don't know..  "fortune" seems like a pretty poor pick for you.  How rich can you be if you are this envious of older, white people?  8)

Maybe I consider myself fortunate to be living in southern California and Irvine.  Not sure how envious I should be of people like yourself who spent half their life on this forum ranting and complaining about their frustrations about living here and about every other ethnic group who looks and behaves different from them. 

Free Tip for you -- no matter how much actual money you have, if you are always worried and angry,  you are not wealthy !

I was hoping you would use this opportunity to reevaluate your racist views, but I see you would rather continue the hate.  C'est la vie.

In psychological terms , this (calling others racist when you actually are one) is referred to as "projection " .  Step outside your bond bubble and look it up : )

This is a defense mechanism that you use to be able to live with yourself.  In that sense you have learned very well from your cult leader.

No, I actually truly believe you are a racist.  It's not for the purposes of name calling.  I really, truly believe it.

I was hoping this dialogue would snap you awake and cause some introspection on your part.

Yes religious belief in others racism is how you deflect your own hatred .

You are simply proving my point but too thickheaded to actually see the irony of your statement

Maybe your fortunes must not be doing as good , what with the bond bubble bursting and all :)

As I said earlier, you can't accuse others of being a racist while acting like one yourself.  Go ahead and reread your quotes.  Think about what's in your heart.
 
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
Liar Loan said:
fortune11 said:
what's factually wrong about the statement ?  it is simple math as to voter turnout and projections.

you really are living up to to your "Liar"  screen name now  , Trump couldn't have picked a better nickname for you himself :)

I don't know..  "fortune" seems like a pretty poor pick for you.  How rich can you be if you are this envious of older, white people?  8)

Maybe I consider myself fortunate to be living in southern California and Irvine.  Not sure how envious I should be of people like yourself who spent half their life on this forum ranting and complaining about their frustrations about living here and about every other ethnic group who looks and behaves different from them. 

Free Tip for you -- no matter how much actual money you have, if you are always worried and angry,  you are not wealthy !

I was hoping you would use this opportunity to reevaluate your racist views, but I see you would rather continue the hate.  C'est la vie.

In psychological terms , this (calling others racist when you actually are one) is referred to as "projection " .  Step outside your bond bubble and look it up : )

This is a defense mechanism that you use to be able to live with yourself.  In that sense you have learned very well from your cult leader.

No, I actually truly believe you are a racist.  It's not for the purposes of name calling.  I really, truly believe it.

I was hoping this dialogue would snap you awake and cause some introspection on your part.

Yes religious belief in others racism is how you deflect your own hatred .

You are simply proving my point but too thickheaded to actually see the irony of your statement

Maybe your fortunes must not be doing as good , what with the bond bubble bursting and all :)

As I said earlier, you can't accuse others of being a racist while acting like one yourself.  Go ahead and reread your quotes.  Think about what's in your heart.

What quotes are you referring to ? Ones where people like you were bashing ethnic Chinese / Asians and I simply pointed out that whites do it too ? 

Looking in the mirror you do realize that you are defending Roseanne Barr for making a clearly racist joke about Valerie Jarrett?s looks  which is obvious to everyone out there  but  racists like yourself.
 
If a politician does not support net neutrality it is a huge red flag. Indicates one or both of the following:

  • They don't understand technology, and therefore are unfit to make decisions in the 21st century
  • They are corrupt, and will vote with lobbyist money, not for the good of their constituents

Although it's not the biggest or most important issue, it is a great litmus test for who is a scumbag and or idiot.
 
fortune11 said:
Looking in the mirror you do realize that you are defending Roseanne Barr for making a clearly racist joke about Valerie Jarrett?s looks  which is obvious to everyone out there  but  racists like yourself.
Whoa...  It wasn't "clearly" racist.  You sound like one of the million sheep.  It might have been racist.  It might not have been.  The level of outrage shown, just shows us how brainwashed people are.

Rosanne's comments were racially ignorant, racially insensitive, bigoted, and hateful.  They weren't "clearly" racist, however. 
- Racially ignorant due to not knowing that American society does not approve associating apes with black people when it comes to appearance.
- Racially insensitive due to making a comment that might offend people of a certain race.
- Hateful as she was being hateful towards someone
- Bigoted as she hates that person due to her beliefs.

But to call it "clearly" racist, does not make sense.
- The lady clearly looks like a character from the Planet of the Apes.  From her hair cut, to her eye lashes, to her makeup to her botox?  She goes out of her way to look that way.  Making that association isn't the same as calling her an ape.  Ironically, being okay with some people of one color being called apes and not people of another color is racism. 
- Roseanne wasn't taking her anger out on the person because of their color.  If she was, then it would be racist.
- Roseanne wasn't making generalizations about people because of their color.

Who was the target?
What did she do to affect Roseanne?
What was Roseannes goal in her comment?

I did find something, interesting, on her twitter feed, though.
Roseanne looking a bit like she's from Planet of the apes hereself.
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THis whole response was written while I am high on ambien.  Text is comming off the screen in 3d.  just saying. I can say anything.
 
If you're protesting the erasing of history and find yourself in march with tiki torches chanting 'jew will not replace us' you might not be a racist, but the people you're following clearly are.
 
fortune11 said:
What quotes are you referring to ? Ones where people like you were bashing ethnic Chinese / Asians and I simply pointed out that whites do it too ? 

Looking in the mirror you do realize that you are defending Roseanne Barr for making a clearly racist joke about Valerie Jarrett?s looks  which is obvious to everyone out there  but  racists like yourself.

I didn't bash any ethnic Chinese.  It's your fellow Irvine residents, including mostly Asians from what I can tell, that are bashing the mainland Chinese.  I don't live in a city with a lot of Chinese and I don't get involved with these intra-Asian racial disputes.  Keep your ugliness to yourself.

My only comment on Roseanne was that her tweet was "pretty dumb".  You can't spin that as a defense of her.
 
spootieho said:
fortune11 said:
Looking in the mirror you do realize that you are defending Roseanne Barr for making a clearly racist joke about Valerie Jarrett?s looks  which is obvious to everyone out there  but  racists like yourself.
Whoa...  It wasn't "clearly" racist.  You sound like one of the million sheep.  It might have been racist.  It might not have been.  The level of outrage shown, just shows us how brainwashed people are.

Rosanne's comments were racially ignorant, racially insensitive, bigoted, and hateful.  They weren't "clearly" racist, however. 
- Racially ignorant due to not knowing that American society does not approve associating apes with black people when it comes to appearance.
- Racially insensitive due to making a comment that might offend people of a certain race.
- Hateful as she was being hateful towards someone
- Bigoted as she hates that person due to her beliefs.

But to call it "clearly" racist, does not make sense.
- The lady clearly looks like a character from the Planet of the Apes.  From her hair cut, to her eye lashes, to her makeup to her botox?  She goes out of her way to look that way.  Making that association isn't the same as calling her an ape.  Ironically, being okay with some people of one color being called apes and not people of another color is racism. 
- Roseanne wasn't taking her anger out on the person because of their color.  If she was, then it would be racist.
- Roseanne wasn't making generalizations about people because of their color.

Who was the target?
What did she do to affect Roseanne?
What was Roseannes goal in her comment?

I did find something, interesting, on her twitter feed, though.
Roseanne looking a bit like she's from Planet of the apes hereself.

THis whole response was written while I am high on ambien.  Text is comming off the screen in 3d.  just saying. I can say anything.

It's clearly racist for everyone who actually understand and believe that racism exist.  For the rest of the folks...there is no racism in this world so Rosanne can't be racist.
 
MAKE SMOOT-HAWLEY GREAT AGAIN!

?When you walk down Fifth Avenue, everybody has a Mercedes-Benz parked in front of his house,? Trump said, according to a Wall Street Journal translation of the comments. ?You were very unfair to the U.S.A. It isn?t mutual. How many Chevrolets do you see in Germany? Not many, maybe none, you don?t see anything at all over there. It?s a one-way street.?
http://fortune.com/2018/05/31/trump-mercedes-benz-german-car-ban/

On Thursday, the White House announced that it will be imposing a 25 percent tariff on steel imports ? and a 10 percent duty on aluminum ones ? from the European Union, Canada, and Mexico. The president first unveiled these trade measures in early March, but had initially provided exemptions to the E.U. and America?s northern and southern neighbors. Those exemptions will expire at midnight tonight.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...inum-tariffs-on-the-eu-canada-and-mexico.html

 
Getting back on topic....BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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https://youtu.be/SoM-ZC7uNnc
 
Irvinecommuter said:
MAKE SMOOT-HAWLEY GREAT AGAIN!

?When you walk down Fifth Avenue, everybody has a Mercedes-Benz parked in front of his house,? Trump said, according to a Wall Street Journal translation of the comments. ?You were very unfair to the U.S.A. It isn?t mutual. How many Chevrolets do you see in Germany? Not many, maybe none, you don?t see anything at all over there. It?s a one-way street.?
http://fortune.com/2018/05/31/trump-mercedes-benz-german-car-ban/

On Thursday, the White House announced that it will be imposing a 25 percent tariff on steel imports ? and a 10 percent duty on aluminum ones ? from the European Union, Canada, and Mexico. The president first unveiled these trade measures in early March, but had initially provided exemptions to the E.U. and America?s northern and southern neighbors. Those exemptions will expire at midnight tonight.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...inum-tariffs-on-the-eu-canada-and-mexico.html

It would be horrible except that China has 3x the tariffs on US goods than we have on theirs.  Trump is simply the first President to recognize this imbalance and responding in kind.  Chairman Xi has the ability to end this at any time by leveling the playing field on US companies.
 
morekaos said:
Getting back on topic....BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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In similar news, it looks like Dems will be locked out of at least one of the contested House seats in Orange County, and possibly more than one. 

Who's idea was it to run a dozen Democrats in each district anyway?  Doh!  :o
 
Samantha Bee sorry for 'inappropriate, inexcusable' Ivanka Trump remarkhttps://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/may/31/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-late-night-tv
She continued: ?So now, after decades of ignoring the issue, Americans are finally paying attention. Well, most of us. Ivanka Trump, who works at the White House, chose to post the second most oblivious tweet we?ve seen this week.?

Bee, showing a photo Ivanka Trump posted of her and her son, addressed the president?s daughter directly: ?You know, Ivanka, that?s a beautiful photo of you and your child, but let me just say, one mother to another, do something about your dad?s immigration practices, you feckless cunt.?

Bee added: ?He listens to you. Put on something tight and low-cut and tell your father to fucking stop it.?

Samantha Bee's show will now be cancelled in 3... 2... 1...  Never.

Well, this is different because Ivanka Trump is a government official and Valerie Jarrett is only a.... um... former government official.... or something... yeah

Just waiting for those two "woke" posters fortune11 and Irvinecommuter to chime in... any second now... Bueller?
 
Irvinecommuter said:
It's clearly racist for everyone who actually understand and believe that racism exist.  For the rest of the folks...there is no racism in this world so Rosanne can't be racist.
Your response shows that you are clearly incapable of logical and rational thought.  You present us with a logical fallacy in the most moronic fashion. 

Now that I've said that, you will probably disregard the rest of my post.  It's pretty difficult to convince someone they are wrong when you insult them.  Oh well.  Am I being harsh?  Yes, as your response warranted it.

Try reading my post again and come up with a more thoughtful response if you disagree.

Your "belief that racism exist" doesn't even begin to understand the term "racism".  Try using google to define the word.  Here you go:https://www.google.com/search?q=define+racism

We can understand the term racism and still have our doubts that what she did is actually racist.  This is contrary to your insulting moronic logic accusing people here of not thinking it exists.  Why don't you just call us all racists while you are at it, as that was the direction this started with.  Meh...

P.S. Try reading my post again.  I'm not excusing her.  I completely understand why she got fired.  I laid it on her pretty harshly. 
 
There may be 50 (or 50,000) shades of grey but Racism is like pornography .. you know it when you see it.

What really is the difference between supporting rank racists and racist comments and being a racist yourself because you are ok with the consequences ? It is akin to how some reporters still sanitize trump comments by saying " trump cited falsehoods" rather than just say simply that "Trump was lying"
 
Liar Loan said:
Samantha Bee sorry for 'inappropriate, inexcusable' Ivanka Trump remarkhttps://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/may/31/samantha-bee-ivanka-trump-late-night-tv
She continued: ?So now, after decades of ignoring the issue, Americans are finally paying attention. Well, most of us. Ivanka Trump, who works at the White House, chose to post the second most oblivious tweet we?ve seen this week.?

Bee, showing a photo Ivanka Trump posted of her and her son, addressed the president?s daughter directly: ?You know, Ivanka, that?s a beautiful photo of you and your child, but let me just say, one mother to another, do something about your dad?s immigration practices, you feckless cunt.?

Bee added: ?He listens to you. Put on something tight and low-cut and tell your father to fucking stop it.?

Samantha Bee's show will now be cancelled in 3... 2... 1...  Never.

Well, this is different because Ivanka Trump is a government official and Valerie Jarrett is only a.... um... former government official.... or something... yeah

Just waiting for those two "woke" posters fortune11 and Irvinecommuter to chime in... any second now... Bueller?

Unlike you, I don't have flexibility of watching this forum 24/7 while I punch #s into my mortgage spreadsheet and make $$

Samantha Bee is one the more mediocre comedians who is not really funny but her liberal bias gets her good critics reviews.  People like her and who was the other one (forget the name) use such sensationalism to stay in the news . Bill Maher on the other hand, is really funny for a change.  So was Michelle Wolf. 

Rude comment, uncalled for, not funny or amusing to anyone with half a brain.  Just like the hundreds of Trump supporters wearing t-shirts with Hillary and the C word on it.  Doesn't excuse Samantha Bee. I don't even watch her show so firing her or not makes no difference to me
 
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