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?.but I saw it on CNN?.

Disease Expert Tells CNN: Most Masks Don't Really Work Against Wuhan Coronavirus


During a segment on CNN Monday afternoon, University of Minnesota Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy Director Michael Osterholm said cloth or paper masks don't work to stop the spread of the disease.

This, of course, has been well known for over a year. Dr. Anthony Fauci told former Obama Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell that store-purchased masks do little to stop the spread of the disease.

"The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through the material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you. I do not recommend you wear a mask," Fauci wrote in an email on February 5, 2020.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/08/02/cnn-guest-actually-cloth-masks-dont-really-work-against-wuhan-coronavirus-n2593473
 
Quoting stuff from over a year ago when we knew less about Covid doesn?t help you.

Misdirection and misinformation? you still think it was voter fraud? :)
 
fatduck said:
someguy said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Masks work.

Some people just won?t ever understand science.

Masks work more than zero.  A cloth or blue surgical mask isn't doing much to reduce the transmission of an aerosolized virus.  The virus is about 6 microns.  A cloth mask has about 60 micron sized pores.  A properly worn N95 or KN95 mask is your best bet, but even those have pores large enough for aerosolized covid to get through.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43246-021-00160-z
i'm no scientist but i'm pretty sure 6 micron viruses aren't just flying through the air on their own

Yep. What?s the size of a respiratory droplet? And with triple layered masks, those overlapping ?pores? become much smaller.

Forget science, how about simple logic?
 
if i were king i'd make the vaccine mandatory and masks optional. i think masks are much more annoying. but saying they don't work is silly. people wouldn't get less colds if everyone wore masks all the time? why do we tell people to cover their mouths when they cough then?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
fatduck said:
someguy said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Masks work.

Some people just won?t ever understand science.

Masks work more than zero.  A cloth or blue surgical mask isn't doing much to reduce the transmission of an aerosolized virus.  The virus is about 6 microns.  A cloth mask has about 60 micron sized pores.  A properly worn N95 or KN95 mask is your best bet, but even those have pores large enough for aerosolized covid to get through.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43246-021-00160-z
i'm no scientist but i'm pretty sure 6 micron viruses aren't just flying through the air on their own

Yep. What?s the size of a respiratory droplet? And with triple layered masks, those overlapping ?pores? become much smaller.

Forget science, how about simple logic?

Probably best to leave the science to the scientists.

There's no point in discussing masks. No one is changing their minds. There's no use in insulting strangers on the internet either.  Our time is better used exploring solutions to our inevitable covid infection.
 
someguy said:
irvinehomeowner said:
fatduck said:
someguy said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Masks work.

Some people just won?t ever understand science.

Masks work more than zero.  A cloth or blue surgical mask isn't doing much to reduce the transmission of an aerosolized virus.  The virus is about 6 microns.  A cloth mask has about 60 micron sized pores.  A properly worn N95 or KN95 mask is your best bet, but even those have pores large enough for aerosolized covid to get through.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43246-021-00160-z
i'm no scientist but i'm pretty sure 6 micron viruses aren't just flying through the air on their own

Yep. What?s the size of a respiratory droplet? And with triple layered masks, those overlapping ?pores? become much smaller.

Forget science, how about simple logic?

Probably best to leave the science to the scientists.

There's no point in discussing masks. No one is changing their minds. There's no use in insulting strangers on the internet either.  Our time is better used exploring solutions to our inevitable covid infection.

Yeah it is a problem. Because the hospitals are getting filled with a lot of unvaccinated or people who did not where a mask. The solution is for people to get the vaccination.
 
..the peddlers don't even believe their own policies...

?Squad? Member Rashida Tlaib Admits Masks Are Political Theater, ?Just Wearing It? For Cameras

Holding an event in Detroit with Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge, Tlaib made the mask remark when speaking to a supporter who was initially unmasked himself before quickly throwing one on when he thought that Tlaib was upset with him for not wearing one.

?Oh, no, oh, not you!? Tlaib said to the man. ?No, no, no!? she reassured him. ?I?m just wearing it because I?ve got a Republican tracker here!?


Despite her maskless dance moves, Tlaib has enthusiastically backed continued nationwide COVID-19 restrictions and mask mandates for the American people, as well as Michigan Governor Gretchen Witmer?s highly controversial response to COVID, which has been considered one of the most authoritarian in the United States.

https://nationalfile.com/squad-member-rashida-tlaib-admits-masks-are-political-theater-just-wearing-it-for-cameras/
 
Went to breakfast this morning at a well known waterfront restaurant here in the LBC.  No masks at all. Tables are inside and out but no server, hostess or busboy had on a mask.  All the patrons were likewise, maskless.  I later went to the Costco in Los Al, in the OC and also, no masks.  Some had it on but by and large the crowd was maskless. Gassed up there and no masks. At both sites no one indicated you needed to wear one.  People don?t seem to care much any more.
 
So I should just post all the places I go to where people wear masks and that would counter you?

You can't post your personal anecdotes as facts.

I saw a dog standing next to a cat without attacking it... dogs don't seem to care much any more.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
So I should just post all the places I go to where people wear masks and that would counter you?

You can't post your personal anecdotes as facts.

I saw a dog standing next to a cat without attacking it... dogs don't seem to care much any more.

Please do, I would like to know because every place I seem to go (today I was in the South Bay) the mask thing seems Passae?.
 
Went to Oishi Shabu Shabu this weekend.

Wife forgot her mask... hostess gave her one to wear and reminded us when not at the table, to wear our masks.

So that means everyone has to wear masks everywhere... including the South Bay.
 
Walked into Jade, restaurant/bar Sunday afternoon. Band playing with at least 75 people?didn?t have a mask and neither did anyone else, including the hostess and the band. Had a wonderful, fun afternoon!  Don?t think you are going to the right places. ;D ;D >:D
 
So sanity may return to the big apple?.

'Not being able to see the smiles of our children has a major impact': NYC Mayor-elect says he's keen to end face-covering mandate for schoolkids

New York City Mayor-elect Eric Adams told CNN's Dana Bash on Sunday he wants to nix the city's mask mandate for students by the end of the year
He said he fears it prevents students from properly socializing
But he said he will only get rid of the mandate if it could be done safely
Adams also said in an appearance on NPR on Sunday that he identifies as a 'conservative' on public safety
He explained he has 'zero tolerance for abusive and criminal and violent behavior' and does not want to see criminals back on the streets the next day
His comments come as the city tries to recover from the ongoing pandemic and amid an increase in crime city-wide

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10175069/NYC-Mayor-elect-says-hes-keen-end-face-covering-mandate-schoolkids.html
 
What does nyc got do with me? Fix Long beach trick

morekaos said:
So sanity may return to the big apple?.

'Not being able to see the smiles of our children has a major impact': NYC Mayor-elect says he's keen to end face-covering mandate for schoolkids

New York City Mayor-elect Eric Adams told CNN's Dana Bash on Sunday he wants to nix the city's mask mandate for students by the end of the year
He said he fears it prevents students from properly socializing
But he said he will only get rid of the mandate if it could be done safely
Adams also said in an appearance on NPR on Sunday that he identifies as a 'conservative' on public safety
He explained he has 'zero tolerance for abusive and criminal and violent behavior' and does not want to see criminals back on the streets the next day
His comments come as the city tries to recover from the ongoing pandemic and amid an increase in crime city-wide

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10175069/NYC-Mayor-elect-says-hes-keen-end-face-covering-mandate-schoolkids.html
 
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