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someguy said:
eyephone said:
I was by this random mo fo that took off his mask and sneezed. (I was 15 feet away)
It ruined my mood to shop and I left.
Unbelievable shi7
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You're going to be fine my delicate little flower.  There were 6 positive covid test results in all of Irvine last week.  6.  out of nearly 300,000 residents.  Back to your basement where you're safe from life.
https://www.cityofirvine.org/sites/...VID19/Website Count Revised Weekly 6.1.21.jpg

Okay champ. Who the fuck wears a mask and takes it off when they sneeze in public at a big retail store?  (Only degens and inconsiderate people do that)


 
eyephone said:
someguy said:
eyephone said:
I was by this random mo fo that took off his mask and sneezed. (I was 15 feet away)
It ruined my mood to shop and I left.
Unbelievable shi7
.

You're going to be fine my delicate little flower.  There were 6 positive covid test results in all of Irvine last week.  6.  out of nearly 300,000 residents.  Back to your basement where you're safe from life.
https://www.cityofirvine.org/sites/...VID19/Website Count Revised Weekly 6.1.21.jpg

Okay champ. Who the fuck wears a mask and takes it off when they sneeze in public at a big retail store?  (Only degens and inconsiderate people do that)

Plenty inconsiderate people around. I've seen a guy in Cadence Park spit on the ground at the tot lot.. Of all places, the tot lot??!?
 
I'm more concerned about the helmetless idiots on e-bikes by the Marketplace that have no respect for the traffic lights.

Just watched one of the idiots almost get hit and then flip the car driver off because the car driver had the left green arrow go for the turn and started to go and he decided to hop his bike off the sidewalk and cross street at zippy speed against the lights and tried to go around in front of her.
 
nosuchreality said:
I'm more concerned about the helmetless idiots on e-bikes by the Marketplace that have no respect for the traffic lights.

Just watched one of the idiots almost get hit and then flip the car driver off because the car driver had the left green arrow go for the turn and started to go and he decided to hop his bike off the sidewalk and cross street at zippy speed against the lights and tried to go around in front of her.
If I was a cop, I would ticket bikers like these all day everyday. It's even worse in Santa Monica with the scooters AND bikers. Bikers and scooters think they have the right of a pedestrian and a vehicle. Man I want these bikers to do what they're doing in countries like China/India and see what happens.
 
...and...Duhhh..

Blue surgical face masks are only 10% effective in preventing COVID infection, new study finds
University of Waterloo researchers find most cloth masks are only 10% effective
Researchers warn most cloth masks do not cover the face properly 
N95 or KN95 masks were found to be the most effective at filtering aerosols
Study also found that even 'moderate ventilation' matches the best of masks in terms of protection against COVID-19

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9914969/Popular-blue-surgical-face-masks-NOT-stop-people-infected-COVID-19.html
 
...and the CDC says...

A recently published study from the Centers for Disease and Control and Prevention (CDC) shows there is no scientific rationale for forcibly masking schoolchildren. The study?s publication simultaneously vindicates Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has been a vocal opponent of the policy due to its lack of scientific evidence.

When analyzing more than 90,000 elementary school students in 169 Georgia schools from Nov. 16 to Dec. 11 last year, the study found that schools that ?required mask use among students was not statistically significant compared with schools where mask use was optional.? According to the CDC,  this ?might be attributed to higher effectiveness of masks among adults, who are at higher risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection but might also result from differences in mask-wearing behavior among students in schools with optional requirements.?

Moreover, as New York Magazine noted, ?Children are less likely to have severe disease from SARS-CoV-2, and when infected less likely to be symptomatic, which correlates with lower contagiousness. Those facts alone may account for part of the reason why the Georgia study found no clear benefit for a masking requirement for kids in schools.?

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/24/desantis-vindicated-theres-no-science-behind-masks-on-kids/
 
When I went to pick up my kids they were all playing together outside with their friends. No masks, face to face playing.  Not sure what the point of requiring masks at their desks when there is some space separating them when they will be maskless outside and playing face to face.

It does give off the appearance of doing something for the sake of doing something.
 
qwerty said:
When I went to pick up my kids they were all playing together outside with their friends. No masks, face to face playing.  Not sure what the point of requiring masks at their desks when there is some space separating them when they will be maskless outside and playing face to face.

It does give off the appearance of doing something for the sake of doing something.

Your in favor of no mask like Florida and Texas?
 
I?m not opposed to letting the parents choose. Or even the kids depending on age. I?ve never been fully sold on how much protection masks really offer.

My specific point is if the kids are going be face to face not sure how much sense masks make in class. The damage will likely be done at recess or lunch.

Also, not sure how much sense it makes to wear a mask at Costco or target but then have everyone not wearing masks in a restaurant. I see waiters pick up dishes and then brink out drinks. Restaurants are probably a place where covid spreads more than at Costco/target.
 
Know a ton of kids and parents who are wearing these fake masks, you get em on Amazon. They look like a mask but are shear and do not block breathing at all. You can wear them even working out but they are as affective as real ones.  Lots of the kids are using them to comply.  I just don?t wear them at all, no one in my office or building do either. Most just wear them around their neck in case someone vibes them.
 
qwerty said:
I?m not opposed to letting the parents choose. Or even the kids depending on age. I?ve never been fully sold on how much protection masks really offer.

My specific point is if the kids are going be face to face not sure how much sense masks make in class. The damage will likely be done at recess or lunch.

Also, not sure how much sense it makes to wear a mask at Costco or target but then have everyone not wearing masks in a restaurant. I see waiters pick up dishes and then brink out drinks. Restaurants are probably a place where covid spreads more than at Costco/target.

No mask required at costco for customers

Alabama out of icu beds
 
Pelosi  doesn?t believe in them?except for the help?those people are petri dishes?ehh gahd!!

Pelosi was filmed speaking at a lavish fundraiser in Napa Valley Sunday, where guests doled out donations of up to $29,000
What looked like more than a hundred guests were sitting shoulder to shoulder and maskless at a table groaning with fine food and fancy flowers

'All the servants fully masked,' journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted. 'The almost-entirely old, white, rich crowd of DCCC donors free to go maskless'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9917827/Pelosi-filmed-lavish-Napa-Valley-fundraiser-tickets-sold-29K-Kabul-crumbles.html
 
eyephone said:
qwerty said:
I?m not opposed to letting the parents choose. Or even the kids depending on age. I?ve never been fully sold on how much protection masks really offer.

My specific point is if the kids are going be face to face not sure how much sense masks make in class. The damage will likely be done at recess or lunch.

Also, not sure how much sense it makes to wear a mask at Costco or target but then have everyone not wearing masks in a restaurant. I see waiters pick up dishes and then brink out drinks. Restaurants are probably a place where covid spreads more than at Costco/target.

No mask required at costco for customers

Alabama out of icu beds

I don?t think that?s a mask problem. I think that is a stupidity problem. If you don?t want to get a vaccine then that is on you and whatever consequences come with it.

The way things are going masks will be around for 2-3 more years .  So now the fully vaccinated need to wear mask because they may be asymptomatic and pass it along to non-vaccinated?? Give me a fucking break.
 
qwerty said:
eyephone said:
qwerty said:
I?m not opposed to letting the parents choose. Or even the kids depending on age. I?ve never been fully sold on how much protection masks really offer.

My specific point is if the kids are going be face to face not sure how much sense masks make in class. The damage will likely be done at recess or lunch.

Also, not sure how much sense it makes to wear a mask at Costco or target but then have everyone not wearing masks in a restaurant. I see waiters pick up dishes and then brink out drinks. Restaurants are probably a place where covid spreads more than at Costco/target.

No mask required at costco for customers

Alabama out of icu beds

I don?t think that?s a mask problem. I think that is a stupidity problem. If you don?t want to get a vaccine then that is on you and whatever consequences come with it.

The way things are going masks will be around for 2-3 more years .  So now the fully vaccinated need to wear mask because they may be asymptomatic and pass it along to non-vaccinated?? Give me a fucking break.

I've been reading what's happening in Israel and they are nearing highs for infection rates even though they have about 80% of the population fully vaccinated.  Here's the article...
https://www.businessinsider.in/scie...,,double the infection rate of two weeks ago.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Masks work.

Some people just won?t ever understand science.

Masks work more than zero.  A cloth or blue surgical mask isn't doing much to reduce the transmission of an aerosolized virus.  The virus is about 6 microns.  A cloth mask has about 60 micron sized pores.  A properly worn N95 or KN95 mask is your best bet, but even those have pores large enough for aerosolized covid to get through.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43246-021-00160-z

There's a cost/benefit element as well, but that ultimately comes down to the individual's beliefs.  No sense in discussing, no one is changing their mind at this point.

Covid is now endemic and a part of our lives for at least the next few years.  Nearly everyone is going to get covid at some point.  Taking measures to reduce the severity of the inevitable covid infection is where effort is best spent, which means considering vaccination and geting your body healthy with diet, exercise, vitamin D, and the guidance of your physician to address your specific needs.  Treatment options are also needed to address severe cases and long haul covid.  Obsessing over case numbers, masking, distancing, mandates, and villainizing people who disagree is an exercise in futility.
 
someguy said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Masks work.

Some people just won?t ever understand science.

Masks work more than zero.  A cloth or blue surgical mask isn't doing much to reduce the transmission of an aerosolized virus.  The virus is about 6 microns.  A cloth mask has about 60 micron sized pores.  A properly worn N95 or KN95 mask is your best bet, but even those have pores large enough for aerosolized covid to get through.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43246-021-00160-z

There's a cost/benefit element as well, but that ultimately comes down to the individual's beliefs.  No sense in discussing, no one is changing their mind at this point.

Covid is now endemic and a part of our lives for at least the next few years.  Nearly everyone is going to get covid at some point.  Taking measures to reduce the severity of the inevitable covid infection is where effort is best spent, which means considering vaccination and geting your body healthy with diet, exercise, vitamin D, and the guidance of your physician to address your specific needs.  Treatment options are also needed to address severe cases and long haul covid.  Obsessing over case numbers, masking, distancing, mandates, and villainizing people who disagree is an exercise in futility.

Drunk drivers will drive, no need to fight it. 
 
someguy said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Masks work.

Some people just won?t ever understand science.

Masks work more than zero.  A cloth or blue surgical mask isn't doing much to reduce the transmission of an aerosolized virus.  The virus is about 6 microns.  A cloth mask has about 60 micron sized pores.  A properly worn N95 or KN95 mask is your best bet, but even those have pores large enough for aerosolized covid to get through.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43246-021-00160-z
i'm no scientist but i'm pretty sure 6 micron viruses aren't just flying through the air on their own
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Masks work.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/masks-were-working-all-along/619989/

Just remember, morekaos is the guy who didn?t understand if you can smell farts through pants and underwear, how does a mask help block Covid. 

Some people just won?t ever understand science.

Yeah, me the, the surgeon general WHO, nobody understands science?.


Seriously people?STOP BUYING MASKS!? So tweeted then?surgeon general Jerome Adams on February 29, 2020, adding, ?They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.? Two days later, Adams said, ?Folks who don?t know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces a lot and actually can increase the spread of coronavirus.? Less than a week earlier, on February 25, public-health authorities in the United Kingdom had published guidance that masks were unnecessary even for those providing community or residential care: ?During normal day-to-day activities facemasks do not provide protection from respiratory viruses, such as COVID-19 and do not need to be worn by staff.? About a month later, on March 30, World Health Organization (WHO) Health Emergencies Program executive director Mike Ryan said that ?there is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any particular benefit.? He added, ?In fact there?s some evidence to suggest the opposite? because of the possibility of not ?wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly? and of ?taking it off and all the other risks that are otherwise associated with that.?

Surgical masks were designed to keep medical personnel from inadvertently infecting patients? wounds, not to prevent the spread of viruses.


https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-evidence?wallit_nosession=1#.YRSMsaJRXXk.twitter
 
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