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eyephone said:
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I would, but qualified. e.g. We'll take Ball at # 2 and will trade him to you (Sac) if Fox is available at # 5. You take Fox, and we'll complete the trade, Ball for Fox + # 10 pick. I'd even throw in a sweetener like Clarkson or Nance.
Boogie would put us in the elite category with PG.
he'll never go public and say it but all the signs are there.. esp with kobe and his connection to LA. It's no secret. Boogie has also expressed this through his agent.. but that was last year. things change.
Fair enough, but I think you're basing this trade scenario on PG13's value as a perennial All Star who's 27 years old, and discounting too deeply the fact that his trade value is severely hurt by the Pacers' lack of much leverage, and it's declining by the day.
Letting him walk after next season for nothing in return isn't the worst outcome for the Pacers. However, this keeps the entire season one big question about the Pacers' future, and they'll continue to win games with him. They should evaluate the market and trade him before the season starts. This allows them to start over, and LOSE games next year improving their position to draft high.
Just don't do anything stupid Pacers, like accepting two late first rounders, Randle AND Deng's contract for PG13.
If you're not the Lakers, how much do you offer for PG13? Not much at all.
Getting PG is no sure thing.. you still have a chance he goes to a winning team and he decides to stay.. also you have competition from the Clips.. legit competition. PG was a clips fan in HS I believe.
indeed.. that's why the Lakers need to do what they gotta do now. I get not giving up ingram or the #2.. but everything else should be on the table.
Insanity. Hold firm on a reasonable offer for PG13 given the circumstances, and let the Pacers find him a landing spot for him, or not. They have little to no leverage to force the # 2 pick or BI from our hands.
Nobody said Ingram or the pick.
Read it again - my mistake. Apologies. Can you tell I'm scared Magic might actually panic and do this?!? The DLo trade seemed a bit premature and desperate. So hearing the Lakers will be trading the # 2 pick tonight for PG13 is a remote possibility. I will throw something at my TV if this occurs.
Lol. Yeah no worries. I don't think Rob is an idiot so they can at least check each other. Shedding Mosgov gives them more room to make another move.
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Perspective
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eyephone said:
I would, but qualified. e.g. We'll take Ball at # 2 and will trade him to you (Sac) if Fox is available at # 5. You take Fox, and we'll complete the trade, Ball for Fox + # 10 pick. I'd even throw in a sweetener like Clarkson or Nance.
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AW said:
Boogie would put us in the elite category with PG.
irvinehomeowner
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So Nick Young is still a Laker and D'Angelo is not?
Is the wedding back on?
Is the wedding back on?
Perspective
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My Dream Scenario today: The Lakers resist the safe pick, Ball, and go for the higher upside player Fox. Then, players the Pacers really like are available at 27 and 28, the Lakers select them at the Pacers' direction, and complete a trade for PG13 with these late first rounders + a throw-in player (not BI nor the # 2).
Most Likely Scenario (and still great for the Lakers): They select Ball, discounting his terrible defense, slow feet, poor pick-and-roll offense, and fugly shooting form. The Lakers then select a 3-shooter (Lyden?) and a combo-guard (Frank Jackson?), or a 3-and-D wing (Iwundu?). I'll happily roll with this.
Most Likely Scenario (and still great for the Lakers): They select Ball, discounting his terrible defense, slow feet, poor pick-and-roll offense, and fugly shooting form. The Lakers then select a 3-shooter (Lyden?) and a combo-guard (Frank Jackson?), or a 3-and-D wing (Iwundu?). I'll happily roll with this.
irvinehomeowner
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I wonder if PG13 is trolling the Lakers.
He isn't the first player to say he preferred to be a Laker (did he actually say that or was it his agent?).
Lavar "spoke it into existence", Lonzo will be a Laker... let's just hope he lives up to Laker fans' lofty expectations.
I wonder how DLo will do in Brooklyn... I'm not sure he will mature any faster there.
He isn't the first player to say he preferred to be a Laker (did he actually say that or was it his agent?).
Lavar "spoke it into existence", Lonzo will be a Laker... let's just hope he lives up to Laker fans' lofty expectations.
I wonder how DLo will do in Brooklyn... I'm not sure he will mature any faster there.
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irvinehomeowner said:
he'll never go public and say it but all the signs are there.. esp with kobe and his connection to LA. It's no secret. Boogie has also expressed this through his agent.. but that was last year. things change.
SoclosetoIrvine
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I think we're going ball and I don't think we're getting the pg13 deal before the offseason
We would have to be able to combine the 27 + 28 + asset and hope we can move up into the 14-20 spot and hope that's enough to dangle for pg13
I would assume our best offer would be randle + higher pick for pg13 which I don't think Pacers say yes to. The only deal they'd do is Clarkson + randle + higher pick at a minimum + future picks.
Sucks that we're gutting the core to add a guy who has been vocal about joining us in the offseason (telling teams he's a 6 month rental)...but magic and pelinka are new and they want to make a splash quickly to make their mark. I think magic truly believes as long as he has cap space, he has the power to sign 2 max marquee free agents. I hope he's right. I expect Deng to be gone soon (probably dangling Clarkson as we speak now)... if he get nothing in free agency, lakers will be bottom dwellers for a long time....but if magic can get it done, westbrook/LeBron/paul George etc could be his end game.
We would have to be able to combine the 27 + 28 + asset and hope we can move up into the 14-20 spot and hope that's enough to dangle for pg13
I would assume our best offer would be randle + higher pick for pg13 which I don't think Pacers say yes to. The only deal they'd do is Clarkson + randle + higher pick at a minimum + future picks.
Sucks that we're gutting the core to add a guy who has been vocal about joining us in the offseason (telling teams he's a 6 month rental)...but magic and pelinka are new and they want to make a splash quickly to make their mark. I think magic truly believes as long as he has cap space, he has the power to sign 2 max marquee free agents. I hope he's right. I expect Deng to be gone soon (probably dangling Clarkson as we speak now)... if he get nothing in free agency, lakers will be bottom dwellers for a long time....but if magic can get it done, westbrook/LeBron/paul George etc could be his end game.
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SoclosetoIrvine said:
Fair enough, but I think you're basing this trade scenario on PG13's value as a perennial All Star who's 27 years old, and discounting too deeply the fact that his trade value is severely hurt by the Pacers' lack of much leverage, and it's declining by the day.
Letting him walk after next season for nothing in return isn't the worst outcome for the Pacers. However, this keeps the entire season one big question about the Pacers' future, and they'll continue to win games with him. They should evaluate the market and trade him before the season starts. This allows them to start over, and LOSE games next year improving their position to draft high.
Just don't do anything stupid Pacers, like accepting two late first rounders, Randle AND Deng's contract for PG13.
If you're not the Lakers, how much do you offer for PG13? Not much at all.
J
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SoclosetoIrvine said:
Getting PG is no sure thing.. you still have a chance he goes to a winning team and he decides to stay.. also you have competition from the Clips.. legit competition. PG was a clips fan in HS I believe.
J
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AW said:
indeed.. that's why the Lakers need to do what they gotta do now. I get not giving up ingram or the #2.. but everything else should be on the table.
Perspective
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jmoney74 said:
Insanity. Hold firm on a reasonable offer for PG13 given the circumstances, and let the Pacers find him a landing spot for him, or not. They have little to no leverage to force the # 2 pick or BI from our hands.
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Perspective said:
Nobody said Ingram or the pick.
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jmoney74 said:
Read it again - my mistake. Apologies. Can you tell I'm scared Magic might actually panic and do this?!? The DLo trade seemed a bit premature and desperate. So hearing the Lakers will be trading the # 2 pick tonight for PG13 is a remote possibility. I will throw something at my TV if this occurs.
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Perspective said:
Lol. Yeah no worries. I don't think Rob is an idiot so they can at least check each other. Shedding Mosgov gives them more room to make another move.