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Newsweek lists the liberal art colleges separately from the national colleges. When the liberal art colleges are factored in many of the listed colleges are bumped down 2x or more. There is also a separate regional college ranking for the states colleges. This is all about advertising dollars benefited by the ranking inflation. 

Newsweek's rating methodology IMO is less reliable because the applicants' high school ranking and stats are weighted heavily and so is the ranking perception from the HS counselors. Not all HS have the same caliber of academic excellence.

Forbes combined all liberal arts, nationals and regional into one ranking. 

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IHS,

I am not sure how to get the stats of admission to the 2nd tier Ivy compatible universities from the top ten GA high schools, but i will see what i can come up with. Below you can see the 2016 top university rankings published by US NEWs. Our top private school is Emory and our top two public schools are Tech and UGA. You can see how these schools rank compared to the California state schools. My personal opinon is that if your son or daugther can get into UCLA (18% acceptance) or Berkeley (16% acceptance), most likely he or she will get accepted into a second tier Ivy school.

(Perhaps this topic should discussed in a different thread in the Education section.) 

IHS, back when I was a senior in high school, I did apply to UCLA for their business/econ program. I do believe that university rankings can change over time. One my friends in high school got accepted to USC back then with a 1000 SAT score out of 1600 and a 2.9 GPA. I think the ranking of USC was right where UGA is today at 61. As all of you know today USC is recognized as part of the top 25 universities which is now as competitive to get in as UCLA. The real estate investor side of me looks at demographics very carefully. Even though UGA is an unrecognized college brand that no FCBs have ever heard of, I know that UGA is going to be a rising star which will compete in the same playing field with Tech and UNC in the next 10 years, sort of like what USC was to UCLA 15 years ago.

Source:http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+6

Rank 20 - UC Berkeley
Rank 21 - Emory University
Rank 23 - UCLA
Rank 23 - USC - Tied
Rank 36 - Georgia Tech
Rank 37 - UC Santa Barbara
Rank 38 - UC Irvine
Rank 39 - UC San Diego
Rank 61 - UGA

IHS, I am sure we both know that being a product of a top elite Ivy university does not guarantee success as an adult. My best friend is a Harvard alumn and he interviews many prospective students in his region. He tells me that Harvard is overated by tiger moms and dads and he has the right to say this as he is a product of Harvard.

We both had a very different upbringing though. He told me that his parents were not wealthy and they did not have cars growing up. He told me the way he programmed his mind back then was that by studying hard and getting straight "A"s and being the top of his high school class, it was equilvalent to putting food on the table. He told me that he was so hungry that he would study til 4am every day during his high school years. I ask him how come he doesn't have that same fire in the belly he had when was he was in high school and told me that he is content now and makes enough money to put a roof over his head and provide for his family.

I, on the other hand had parents who really didn't care whether I did well or bad in school. To be honest, I don't think they even cared if I went to college or not. I guess I had no choice but to be self motivated. I ended up graduating with a Finance degree at the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan and later got my MBA with a real estate investment / finance concentration. Back then looking forward, I had no idea how my education would be applicable to the real world, but looking back now, I can see how all the dots of my education and experiences are starting to connect with one another. I guess am very fortunate that I all the books I read today and prior education is directly applicable to my full time career.

Sometimes if you are uncertain about what your passion is, think about all the books you read when you were in your early 20s.. What did you think about all the time back then?? Most likely, this is your passion. It is important that we all try to find our passion early on in life, otherwise any sane person would give up when the times get really tough.

I think what is really important for us as parents is to help our children identify their strengthen and passion and help them grow in that capacity rather than turning them into robots.

 
 
IHS,
We should start another thread in the Education section whether if graduates from Ivy league school are more successful than graduates of state schools in the real world as adults. There is so much emphasis on making straight As and getting almost perfect SAT score in IUSD and any top rates high schools and parents pay a premium for our housing to send their kids to these top elite public schools. Do you believe that this is a healthy way for us to raise our kids in this environment? Irvine Home Shopper, you are much more of expert than I am in this area as are many years ahead of me, therefore I would I love to get your opinion on this topic. 

I was also thinking about doing a separate write up on applying to Georgia Tech in 2014 vs applying to UCLA in 1998. There are some very interesting data sets (Asian demographics and acceptance rate) that are similar among the two institutions 16 years apart.
 
eyephone said:
The prices are also high in potter ranch. Also, it's so hot over there, and potential fire area. I think Simi Valley is better than Porter Ranch.

lol...have you ever even been out here?  You realize you just said the equivalent of "i think Corona is better than Irvine"? Now, if you said "i think Valencia is better", or "i think Thousand Oaks is better" --- yeah, sure...lets discuss. But Simi?  You might want to visit Simi Valley before saying that --- maybe while you are out there you can visit a massage parlor or medical mary jane clinic and ask the patrons what they like best about their city.
 
PatrickStar said:
eyephone said:
The prices are also high in potter ranch. Also, it's so hot over there, and potential fire area. I think Simi Valley is better than Porter Ranch.

lol...have you ever even been out here?  You realize you just said the equivalent of "i think Corona is better than Irvine"? Now, if you said "i think Valencia is better", or "i think Thousand Oaks is better" --- yeah, sure...lets discuss. But Simi?  You might want to visit Simi Valley before saying that --- maybe while you are out there you can visit a massage parlor or medical mary jane clinic and ask the patrons what they like best about their city.

Well in defense of Simi Valley they do have a tommys.
 
Simi Valley, ranked as safest cities from certain rankings. But only way there is the up the hill on the 118 and somewhat far from everything. 

Porter ranch is better located, community still building out (toll bros) but those winds and dust sucks (say goodbye to your umbrella patio set if you've just moved there). Also some parts are dealing with that smell from the dump over the hill?

There are pros and cons to any city
 
Too lazy to quote and respond to everything but the use of one ranking (especially USNews) is silly IMO.  UCB and UCLA (and even UCSD) have world recognition.  Georgia Tech remains a regional school...and that's the best Georgia can offer.

QS World Ranking:

UCB:  26
UCLA:  27
UCSD:  44
Georgia Tech:  84
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2015

Shanghai Ranking:

UCB:  4
UCLA:  12
UCSD:  14
UCSB:  38
UCI:  50
UC Davis:  57
UC Santa Cruz:  93

Georgia Tech:  101-150.
http://www.shanghairanking.com/

CWUR Rankings:

UCB:  7
UCLA:  15
UCSD:  21
UC Davis:  51
UCSB:  64

Georgia Tech:  80
http://cwur.org/2015/

USNews' own World University Rank

UCB: 3
UCLA: 8
UCSD: 19
UCSB: 24
UC Davis: 39
UC Santa Cruz:  44
UCI:  61

Georgia Tech: 64
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings

Times Higher Education Rating

UCB:  8
UCLA:  12
UCSB:  37
UCSD:  41

Georgia Tech:  27
 
When I was growing up in the northeast, Georgie tech was an up and coming school. A lot of Asian parents liked it for their engineering rankings but no one sent their kid there over the  top UC schools even from the east coast. So 2 decades later, it's still an up and coming school? Georgia tech at best is a top regional school. It'll dominate that space but doubt it will go far beyond that. A great option for GA kids but let's not be silly here.
 
freedomcm said:
What about Emory?

Also, GIT and UGA are ranked top 50 nationally.

Emory is private and thus not really in the discussion with respect to state schools due to the tuition difference.  UCB is at about $12,000 for tuition...Emory is at $45,700.  If you are going to include private school, California counter with Stanford, CIT, USC, Claremont McKenna, Occidental, etc.

The comparison regarding Georgia Tech and UC schools are is discussed above.
 
In 2014, housing prices in the metro Atlanta region rose 5.2% and in 2015, housing prices have rose 5.8%. I think we are going to continue to see a stable appreciation between 5-6% in the Atlanta metro market in the years ahead. 2012 - 2013 was a very unique period where home prices in metro Atlanta rose more than 30% within the 24 month period between January 1, 2012 - December 31st, 2013. 

AtlantaMetro Home Prices:
YearAppreciation/Depreciation


1991 0.6%
1992 2.1%
1993 4.5%
1994 4.6%
1995 3.2%
1996 3.5%
1997 4.6%
1998 6.7%
1999 7.2%
2000 6.6%
2001 4.3%
2002 3.1%
2003 3.5%
2004 4.4%
2005 5.5%
2006 2.2%
2007 -4.3%
2008-14.3%
2009 -2.2%
2010 -6.3%
2011-14.8%
2012 13.5%
2013 18.5%
2014 5.2%
2015 5.8%

2016 Best Public High School Ranking in the state of Georgia
Source:https://k12.niche.com/rankings/public-high-schools/best-overall/s/georgia/
 
December Case Shiller data metro Atlanta has just bee released. Between 01/01/2015 - 12/31/2015, the Atlanta metro market has appreciated 5.8%. We are currently still below the July 2007 peak by 7.8%. Housing starts are growing since 2009 but still at levels below 1990, which leads me to believe that more appreciation is ahead in the Atlanta metro market. Inventory levels in metro Altanta are currently around 41k.

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Comparison of Case Shiller Atlanta index vs Unemployment.

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There is a major development going on to develop "The District" in downtown Johns Creek. The 728 acres in the northeast side of the city is currently where the "Johns Creek Technology Park" is located. Currently 19% of the tax revenues are paid from commercial real estate and 81% of the tax revenues will come from residential. The city is looking to expand commercial development so that 35% of the tax revenue comes from commercial. The company that was hired to design the "The District" is the same master planners for the city of Philadelphia. Once the "The District" starts to develop, property values are going to get expensive in the surrounding area. "The District" is the Johns Creek's version of the "Irvine Spectrum"


Source:http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...eek-mayor-pitches-728-acre-redevelopment.html
 
Inventory levels in metro Atlanta first bottomed on January 2nd, 2013. Just recently, on January 5th, 2016, inventory levels in metro Atlanta have just hit a new low. Currently, demand is far outpacing supply and inventory levels needs to increase to 120k or higher for home prices to equalize and have potential to fall. Current inventory levels today remain around 38k. 

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Zestimate: $319,532 

This is a brand new home one of my higher end investor client in Diamond Bar has recently bought. 5 bedroom 3 bath 3100 square feet on a slab located in a 9-9-9- school zone in an emerging path of progress. Walk thru will take place tomorrow morning and closing on March 8th, 2016 and I will have a tenant secured for my client before he closes.

Asking price was $294k and we are closing somewhere in the high $270s, ppsf somewhere in the mid $80s. Took me 18 days to secure a six figure executive client with a 787 credit score. Lease term is for a 2 years.

The Adjusted Gross Yield for this higher end rental is about 8.7%. A 9.6% Gross Cap can be achieved in the mid $190k price point and $1600 rent. To get a newer SFR rental for this type of Gross Cap, we are looking at a 4 bed / 2.5 bath SFR on a slab 2300 sq/ft.   

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Housing Inventory Levels in metro Atlanta

Inventory levels in metro Atlanta first bottomed on January 2nd, 2013. Just recently, on January 5th, 2016, inventory levels in metro Atlanta have just hit a new low.

 
Panda said:
Due to your deep roots, family, friends, and your local W2 job in Orange County, I am sure none of you guys would even consider moving out of Irvine for Johns Creek. Therefore, I would like to showcase to you guys what a brand new $600,000 home looks like near the new Johns Creek Technology Park corridor called "The District"

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600 with upgrades? What's the size of the backyard?
 
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