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Can we all just calm down here?

I like drama just like the next person but c'mon.



Let's not pretend we know each other. This is a blog and sometimes we should remember

to only write what we normally say face to face to others. NOT!



BK's posts are just one of many bloggers, if you pick on him, you should pick on everybody else's too.

And yes, other people's posts get picked on. So, to the moderators and admins, if you back up BK's

posts, you should back up other posters as well. NOT!



Anyways, relax and enjoy. Have a wonderful weekend! GO LAKERS!
 
[quote author="rickhunter" date=1211605454]Can we all just calm down here?

I like drama just like the next person but c'mon.



Let's not pretend we know each other. This is a blog and sometimes we should remember

to only write what we normally say face to face to others. NOT!



BK's posts are just one of many bloggers, if you pick on him, you should pick on everybody else's too.

And yes, other people's posts get picked on. So, to the moderators and admins, if you back up BK's

posts, you should back up other posters as well. NOT!



Anyways, relax and enjoy. Have a wonderful weekend! GO LAKERS!</blockquote>


I don't have to pretend that I know people here, because I do know people here. In fact, I had lunch with BK yesterday, and I would consider him my friend. So, if you dis my friend, who is more educated about what he is talking than what some have no clue what they are talking about, then I will back him up all day long. Especially when the poster has changed names to hide from his previously posted and extremely uneducated posts, like what is an option, then I put him in check now, just like I did then.



And, yes... GO LAKERS!
 
I didn't mean to pick a fight with BK, I don't know if I am one of those you are referring to. I was just pointing out that almost all of the 'cultures' here at one point did face the decision to leave where they were born and come here. I'm first generation too, just not of asian decent.



p.s.



GO LAKERS
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1211604599]Our Native Indians could have been migrated from Asia via the northern part of Russia once was connected to Alaska by land mass. The Eskimos, Mayans, Aztec and Native Indians have similar facial features like Asians. Their herbol and medicine remedies are strikingly similar to Asian medicine. Hispanic has some Asian features as well.

</blockquote>


And before that, we all came from east Africa, somewhere around the current Ethiopia. See, we're all related!
 
[quote author="asianinvasian" date=1211603499][quote author="bkshopr" date=1211602161]I respect their culture and spent many years trying to understand it.

</blockquote>


And failed.</blockquote>


<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: purple;">Clearly you have not been paying attention, asianinvasion et al., if you are unable to recognize BK's erudite contribution to this blog. His posts demonstrate a vast store of knowledge and a keen understanding on a startling array of topics. Many of us have learned from him and respect his perspicacity. Moreover, he is witty and charming. Perhaps you did not mean to insult him or the other members of this community. An apology would go a long way in this instance. <a href="http://www.perfectapology.com/public-apology.html">Here is a resource</a>, if you are unfamiliar with the mea culpa process</span>.</span>
 
who are you talking about graph? the same person who said:



"Every dollar you pay in rent is 100% loss. Didn?t know house prices had dropped 100% already."



"the water you are drinking now is the exact same water someone took a dump on a few months ago."



"At those prices I?d buy 2. In the long run price will only go up."



"Those blimp hangars are an icon."



"For the millionth time, Tustin 92782 has BETTER demographics than Irvine."



"What?s Lanser?"



"Jealousy, that the homeowners are asian and the renters are not!"



"Just because *you* can?t afford a home doesn?t mean other people can?t. People that buy million dollar homes don?t live paycheck to paycheck. lol."



"Just because you finance something doesn?t mean you can?t afford it. There?s something called opportunity cost. When I didn?t have money I never understood it. Now that I have money I understand it. Rich people always finance things they *can* afford. The only difference in the past few years is poor people started financing things they can?t afford."



and of course, mystery of the housing bubble solved...



"Costs have gone up because things like granite counters and double vanity bathrooms have become standard."
 
[quote author="profette" date=1211608682][quote author="asianinvasian" date=1211603499][quote author="bkshopr" date=1211602161]I respect their culture and spent many years trying to understand it.

</blockquote>


And failed.</blockquote>


<span style="font-size: 13px;"><span style="color: purple;">Clearly you have not been paying attention, asianinvasion et al., if you are unable to recognize BK's erudite contribution to this blog. His posts demonstrate a vast store of knowledge and a keen understanding on a startling array of topics. Many of us have learned from him and respect his perspicacity. Moreover, he is witty and charming. Perhaps you did not mean to insult him or the other members of this community. An apology would go a long way in this instance. <a href="http://www.perfectapology.com/public-apology.html">Here is a resource</a>, if you are unfamiliar with the mea culpa process</span>.</span></blockquote>


What knowledge? He doesn't even know what a condo is. If you call the posting of vast amounts of misinformation keen understanding then there is nothing more to say.
 
Prof just wanted to use the word perspicacity. ;)



BK rocks. Not only is he highly intelligent, he is snarktastically hysterical !
 
[quote author="asianinvasian" date=1211609443]What knowledge? He doesn't even know what a condo is. If you call the posting of vast amounts of misinformation keen understanding then there is nothing more to say.</blockquote>


Just ignore asian-mutation. He's the dumba$$ that declared on another thread that the "market bottomed in Q4 2007" so WTF could he possibly know or contribute? Moronic trolls like him don't read all that well and ideas that are well over their head get attacked. He gives the rest of us asian bruthas a bad name...



I don't give a rip about feng shui, but I find bk's knowledge of it is immensely entertaining and enlightening. Keep up the good work bk! Don't let ole Mao Zedong get ya down.
 
[quote author="asianinvasian" date=1211609443]What knowledge? He doesn't even know what a condo is. If you call the posting of vast amounts of misinformation keen understanding then there is nothing more to say.</blockquote>


AI - One of things I've always appreciated about your posts was your ability to write a one sentence comment addressing the issue at hand and then to follow up that statement with facts and reasoned analysis.
 
Wow! Thank you all for defending me. You are the reasons why I posted. Unfortunately for some who do not value the contents of my posts. Companies and builders paid big bucks for my research that help them to shape better consumer products and habitat for the way we live.
 
[quote author="acpme" date=1211609442]who are you talking about graph? the same person who said:



"Every dollar you pay in rent is 100% loss. Didn?t know house prices had dropped 100% already."



"the water you are drinking now is the exact same water someone took a dump on a few months ago."



"At those prices I?d buy 2. In the long run price will only go up."



"Those blimp hangars are an icon."



"For the millionth time, Tustin 92782 has BETTER demographics than Irvine."



"What?s Lanser?"



"Jealousy, that the homeowners are asian and the renters are not!"



"Just because *you* can?t afford a home doesn?t mean other people can?t. People that buy million dollar homes don?t live paycheck to paycheck. lol."



"Just because you finance something doesn?t mean you can?t afford it. There?s something called opportunity cost. When I didn?t have money I never understood it. Now that I have money I understand it. Rich people always finance things they *can* afford. The only difference in the past few years is poor people started financing things they can?t afford."



and of course, mystery of the housing bubble solved...



"Costs have gone up because things like granite counters and double vanity bathrooms have become standard."</blockquote>


Oh... those were some good ones, and since the Lakers are killing the Spurs like this guy shoots himself in the foot, here are some of my favorites...



jpmorganfunds Posted: 26 October 2007 08:02 AM:



"CFC stock is up 32.36% today."



Yup, and look at it now...



<img src="http://www.marketwatch.com/charts/int-adv.chart?symb=CFC&sid=1426&time;=&startdate=10/25/2007&enddate=5/23/2008&freq;=&comp;=&compidx=aaaaa~0&uf=0&ma=2&maval=55&type=4&size=1&lf=16&lf2=4&lf3=0&style=1013&mocktick=1&rand=874793648" alt="" />



"Seems like some bitter renters that can?t afford a house at ANY price. "



"Asians pay cash for houses. That?s why you see so many asians in Irvine, because they can afford it and it?s why prices won?t drop."



Yeah... as IR2's data proves this statement to be one the more fictional ones he has made.



""you" cannot afford a Ferrari, yet there are still plenty of them out there, prices will not drop 50% just for "you""



Hey, he is kinda right here, but they are dropping 50% for everyone.



"graphix, have you ever negotiated anything before in your life? And do you know what you?re talking about?"



Nope, never even negotiated a car purchase, I just pay sticker, cuz that is what it is worth. And, no, I have no idea what I am talking about ever, as I have been wrong the last three years about housing. Oops, that must be some parallel universe. Eh... I just saw Indiana Jones, must have had an impact on me.



"<em>The argued point was about you trying to buy something you couldnt afford (RIGHT NOW) and trying to make the PRICE fit your affordability range. All I can say about this is GOOD LUCK!</em>

Right on. This whole site is about bitter renters that are upset they got priced out FOREVER."



Here is my personal favorite, with my response in italics...



"Inflation only causes home values to rise."

<em>

Huh? In 1990 the median price for a home in OC was $257,300, and in 1996 the median price was $211,100, for a nominal decline of -19.33%. According to the BLS, SoCal?s inflation rate was up 15.9% in that same time frame, and not down. So, if inflation went up and homes prices went down, then in real terms home prices were down 35.22%.



Currently the median price for a SFR, according to DQ, is down -3%. And, yet Socal?s inflation is up 3.5%. Mmmm? if inflation is up, then why are home prices down?</em>



Good stuff, good stuff I tell you.
 
On a serious note...



AI, if you took the approach to listen and learn, you would know that many here have experience in RE, and especially new home in RE. Instead, you tried, and failed, to put us down. Which, as you can see, makes and has made you look foolish. You could have, and should have, taken the same approach as IR2, and give facts backed up with data to show what is really happening in market. Granted, you have posted sparingly at best informative stats. But, for the most part, you like to get your cheap shots in. You could have posted traffic info, sales in escrow, incentive info, and closing info, but you didn't and you can't blame us for flaming you.



I have builder experience, connections to it to this day, and understand your frustration. The sales agents I respect, are not their cheery selves, and try their best to remain positive. But, most have stopped drinking the Kool-Aid, as should you too. I go to, and hear about, the traffic in the new homes and I know how bad it is, as I have seen the traffic logs. They are less on a weekly basis, than the 2005 daily basis. Granted, it is your job to drink the Kool-Aid to sell homes, there is no need to do it here. You could lighten up, and post traffic data, the number of contracts, and closed sales, but I doubt there is any way for anyone here to take you seriously.



Look at IR2 as an example, he is in the industry, but we all respect him for his honesty and ability to give us stats with a nice touch of snark. It would have been cool, if you could have been like him. Like I said though, it may be too late.
 
IPO, was it really necessary for you to post on this blog that your household income is over $200k and that you have about $400,000 cash/equity for your $1M home purchase? Most people in Irvine don't make this kind of income.
 
I think someone asked for specific details on actual people with actual salaries and down payments and their plans for buying $1 million homes, which is why IPO provided that info. $200K income is in the top percentiles and $400K equity is also in the top percentiles so that is indeed a lot of money, being better than say 90% of the population? I am looking at Orchard Hills in a few years when they are ready to sell, and if OH homes are around $1 million with a MBR on the first level and decent sized lots and a view of Newport I'll be a happy empty nester.
 
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