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[quote author="bkshopr" date=1211243625]Cecelia chose the location for Diamond Plaza in Irvine because of proximity to her future custom home in Shady. Acpme take note! "Cecelia's property manager". </blockquote>


i hope she has good trash to rummage through. i'm still looking for boxes to build a guestroom addition.
 
Sorry for the derailment of this thread.



Try Fedex boxes. They are sturdy and modular like bricks. The free Ty-Vek envelopes from the postal office are good waterproofing for your cardbox walls. Shady architectural review board will appreciate your green effort.



[quote author="acpme" date=1211245670][quote author="bkshopr" date=1211243625]Cecelia chose the location for Diamond Plaza in Irvine because of proximity to her future custom home in Shady. Acpme take note! "Cecelia's property manager". </blockquote>


i hope she has good trash to rummage through. i'm still looking for boxes to build a guestroom addition.</blockquote>
 
I hear a new Carneceria/Panaderia is opening in Coto. I tremble with anticipation and will move up the date on my purchase plans accordingly.
 
I have been seeing so many "Panda Newbies" lately. Good thing that there is no population control like the children in China.
 
Who needs Hmart when you have Freshia on Redhill and 99 Ranch on Culver? I'm just anxiously waiting for the late night dining like Guppy's!! I really really hope they open in June.



I always wonder why there are so many Asian businesses in Garden Grove & Westminster when there are so many Asians in Irvine & Tustin?



I think this new plaza will be awesome. I can already see myself going there every week.
 
[quote author="rtlguru" date=1211236933]You guys know there is a Korean market about 1 mile from Columbus Square right? It's called Freshia, and it's on Red Hill. It's on the small side, but does the job for me. No trips to Garden Grove needed.



Of course, once the Hmart opens, I'll probably go there.</blockquote>


No, I didn't know. What's the nearest cross street on Redhill is Freshia on? It would be great not to have to make the drive to GG.
 
Here's the yelp page with it's address:

<a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/freshia-market-tustin">http://www.yelp.com/biz/freshia-market-tustin</a>
 
[quote author="PadreBrian" date=1211287216]Here's the yelp page with it's address:

<a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/freshia-market-tustin">http://www.yelp.com/biz/freshia-market-tustin</a></blockquote>


Thank you very much. Less driving to GG on the weekends. Going to save some gas money now :-)
 
Probably because Irvine has strict codes for businesses and the rent is higher too.

Whereas GG and West...



[quote author="hs_teacher" date=1211286096]I always wonder why there are so many Asian businesses in Garden Grove & Westminster when there are so many Asians in Irvine & Tustin?</blockquote>
 
[quote author="hs_teacher" date=1211286096]

I always wonder why there are so many Asian businesses in Garden Grove & Westminster when there are so many Asians in Irvine & Tustin?

</blockquote>


Because they all look alike to you? Garden Grove is a Vietnamese community, Irvine is Chinese.
 
Rents are way cheaper in GG and Wtr. Irvine landlords required a financial performa of the businesses' previous profits and there were none for many ethnic businesses.





[quote author="hs_teacher" date=1211286096]Who needs Hmart when you have Freshia on Redhill and 99 Ranch on Culver? I'm just anxiously waiting for the late night dining like Guppy's!! I really really hope they open in June.



I always wonder why there are so many Asian businesses in Garden Grove & Westminster when there are so many Asians in Irvine & Tustin?



I think this new plaza will be awesome. I can already see myself going there every week.</blockquote>
 
Another Korean supermarket, <a href="http://www.zionmarket.com/irvine.php"><span style="color: green;">Zion Market</span> on Irvine Blvd & Yale</a> has been open in Irvine for awhile. If I'm not mistaken, it has a Paris Baguette located inside as well as a place to get prepared foods.



Are there any places in Irvine like Kyochon to get fried chicken wings? After reading <a href="http://www.chowhound.com/topics/410229">this thread on Chowhounds</a>, I have been craving them.
 
I hate to say this, but Irvine is looking like Monterey Park circa 1985. I guess it'll be really true when we see the Mar family building shopping centers here and a Noodle Planet/World.
 
Irvine will never become Monterey Park. Here are the reasons:



1. Other cities around Irvine are still way too pricey unlike Monterey Park with its cheap neighbors like El Monte, Rosemead, El Sereno, and Alhambra. At the sametime San Marino and Arcadia Chinese are taking businesses to a higher notch. Ding Tai Fung dumpling house for instance has built its own building with tasteful interior and architecture. It obviously robbed its customers and underpaid its Hispanic dumpling assembly line workers. Immigrants with limited budget will not be able to live in and around Irvine. It is the poor immigrants who are the backbone for the Monterey Park culture. The poor population are the cuisine chefs, dim sum chefs, waiters, mom and pop shop owners, salon hair dresser with 10am-11pm shop hours, josh and incense store owners, red bean mini pancake merchants outside every supermarket, fake Louis Vuitton smugglers/retailers, Asian massage parlors Mamasan that guarantee happy endings, and etc. The fabric of Monterey Park is composed of rich and poor that provides the endless cycles of services and happy consumers. Due to the low overhead price is very competitive.



2. Zoning in Irvine is too strict compared to Monterey Park. Cheap and ugly retail strip malls with bargain rents and office spaces allowed the Chinese communities to flourish. The Irvine Company who own all but 3 shopping centers will not compromise its standard in rent and financial portfolios. The Chinese businesses are all in the non Irvine Company retail centers. The 3rd one is Diamond Plaza. Signage control limits the chaotic graphic and freedom of Chinese business signs and advertising. The chaotic color, signage, neon signs, and advertising bills are the unique characteristic for all Chinatown across America as well as Hong Kong, Macao and Shanghai on a much larger scale. The mismatched and bad taste architectural craps are what made these Chinatowns distinctive.



3. Public transportation is big for immigrants and the vital work force that help to sustain Monterey park economic. OC is the worst in Public transit in the nation.



4. Irvine ordinance forbids late hours and seedy businesses. Night clubs and bars are reasons for the nightlife. The strip clubs in city of Industry is the pulse for the nightlife in Rowland Heights. The bars and City of Commerce Casinos are the beat for Monterey Park. After their night out and gambling they need to eat at the Noodle Planets around 1:00 am or get a haircut at 11:00 pm.



5. Asians come from cities that never sleep and placing them in Irvine is like sending cockroaches to dormancy.











[quote author="Bubblegum" date=1211344958]I hate to say this, but Irvine is looking like Monterey Park circa 1985. I guess it'll be really true when we see the Mar family building shopping centers here and a Noodle Planet/World.</blockquote>
 
Irvine will always stay Irvine. For those who want night life in Irvine, they will head to Newport, Costa Mesa, Huntington, Westminster, Garden Grove, Anaheim, and Fullerton.
 
[quote author="asianinvasian" date=1211325432][quote author="hs_teacher" date=1211286096]

I always wonder why there are so many Asian businesses in Garden Grove & Westminster when there are so many Asians in Irvine & Tustin?

</blockquote>


Because they all look alike to you? Garden Grove is a Vietnamese community, Irvine is Chinese.</blockquote>




Actually, while the viet population has expanded from Westminster to include parts of GG and Santa Ana, GG was and continues to be predominately Korean.



Irvine, while it does have many people of Chinese ancestry, is actually in my experience a big mix of successful people from many ethnic groups including Koreans, Viet, Hispanic, Persian, etc. who leave their ethnic enclaves "for the good life"



here is the breakdown from the census:



Races in Irvine:



* White Non-Hispanic (57.0%)

* Chinese (10.5%)

* Hispanic (7.4%)

* Korean (5.3%)

* Two or more races (4.8%)

* Japanese (3.6%)

* Asian Indian (3.1%)

* Vietnamese (3.1%)

* Other race (2.5%)

* Filipino (2.4%)

* Other Asian (1.9%)

* Black (1.4%)

* American Indian (0.6%)
 
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