Irvine demographic & impact on kids
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I'm probably at the opposite spectrum of this.
I'm an ABC...grew up in the LA area, my dad immigrated from HK when he was in his early 20s, my mom from Macau in middle school, both went to colleges in the LA area and my mom has her master's.
I did go to a PSAT prep class that was 4 weeks on a Saturday for 4 hours, but other than that I can't remember going to any Chinese school or after school tutoring. I think I ditched 2 out of the 4 classes too and got kicked out of one. I was a great student right! (On a side note I was top 10 in GPA in my high school graduating class and graduated college early while being in an Asian American Fraternity, so even with all my antics I did well in school and with NO tutoring!)
Elementary school, I remember going to school, then stayed at an after school program where all we did was run around and play with other kids on the playground until my dad picked me up. I occasionally did HW there, but for the most part I don't believe I had much HW up until 4th grade where I started having 1hr to 2hr max of HW.
Middle school is when I remember I started getting more HW, but all I did was walk myself home, did some HW and played video games. High School the same, until I got my car, then I drove home or elsewhere and got myself home before my parents... ;D
I can't see myself sending my kid/s to tutoring even while living in Irvine, will they be behind, I hope not, but kids gotta be kids. I don't want them to grow up not having fun, scraping their knees when falling off a bike or playing tag with their friends, but maybe they won't have friends to play tag with since they are all in tutoring. The only thing I can possibly see is sending them to Chinese school to learn Mandarin since I can see that being helpful in the future and I can't teach them that myself since I don't know a lick of it.
Spectrum isn't bad either, we used to do Chipotle Friday's and people watch at lunch.
I used to go to Chipotle, but not after the food scandal or whatever you want to call it.
The demographics of this board has gone downhill over the years. We used to be so healthy with the likes of Graph, NoVas, ISM, Trooper, BK (honorary white), CK (white but loves Asians), Larry, etc., but now we are downright malignant with nothing but Asians stressing about afterschool tutoring.
Perspective said:
I'm probably at the opposite spectrum of this.
I'm an ABC...grew up in the LA area, my dad immigrated from HK when he was in his early 20s, my mom from Macau in middle school, both went to colleges in the LA area and my mom has her master's.
I did go to a PSAT prep class that was 4 weeks on a Saturday for 4 hours, but other than that I can't remember going to any Chinese school or after school tutoring. I think I ditched 2 out of the 4 classes too and got kicked out of one. I was a great student right! (On a side note I was top 10 in GPA in my high school graduating class and graduated college early while being in an Asian American Fraternity, so even with all my antics I did well in school and with NO tutoring!)
Elementary school, I remember going to school, then stayed at an after school program where all we did was run around and play with other kids on the playground until my dad picked me up. I occasionally did HW there, but for the most part I don't believe I had much HW up until 4th grade where I started having 1hr to 2hr max of HW.
Middle school is when I remember I started getting more HW, but all I did was walk myself home, did some HW and played video games. High School the same, until I got my car, then I drove home or elsewhere and got myself home before my parents... ;D
I can't see myself sending my kid/s to tutoring even while living in Irvine, will they be behind, I hope not, but kids gotta be kids. I don't want them to grow up not having fun, scraping their knees when falling off a bike or playing tag with their friends, but maybe they won't have friends to play tag with since they are all in tutoring. The only thing I can possibly see is sending them to Chinese school to learn Mandarin since I can see that being helpful in the future and I can't teach them that myself since I don't know a lick of it.
It's interesting to see what native Americans think of Chinese people here.
I am a first generation Chinese immigrant and one of my children attend an elementary school here. We never send my kid to kumon or other private tutoring. We only send him to Chinese school to learn mandarin. And most of my Chinese friends do the same thing. To be honest, elementary school level homework is so easy, why would we send them to private tutoring for this? We would rather the kids spend more time outside of classrooms to enjoy childhood.
I am a first generation Chinese immigrant and one of my children attend an elementary school here. We never send my kid to kumon or other private tutoring. We only send him to Chinese school to learn mandarin. And most of my Chinese friends do the same thing. To be honest, elementary school level homework is so easy, why would we send them to private tutoring for this? We would rather the kids spend more time outside of classrooms to enjoy childhood.
Panda said:
qwerty said:I'm fine with Asians but I'm open to seeing more blondes in the Irvine area. Even south coast plaza is mostly Asian. Don't want to have to drive to fashion island for my blonde fix
Spectrum isn't bad either, we used to do Chipotle Friday's and people watch at lunch.
akkord said:qwerty said:I'm fine with Asians but I'm open to seeing more blondes in the Irvine area. Even south coast plaza is mostly Asian. Don't want to have to drive to fashion island for my blonde fix
Spectrum isn't bad either, we used to do Chipotle Friday's and people watch at lunch.
I used to go to Chipotle, but not after the food scandal or whatever you want to call it.
Irvine Dream
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If a Kid starts getting say 88% (i.e- not an A) then are they falling behind?? Nowadays, you are not going to get into UCLA or Cal if you get more than 3Bs in your entire high school careereyephone said:
panda
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IrvineDream,
You are not joking around. If your kid has the academic qualifications to get into Cal or UCLA in today's environment... they are pretty much good enough to get into an Ivy League School. Getting them into UCSD or UCI maybe a more realistic expectation for your kids. Admission into UCLA and Cal today is around 17%... this % will probably get down to 11-13% by the time most of our kids are ready to apply for college.
Another thing to add.. 2015 admission data shows me that the out-of-state students have a better chance to get into Cal or UCLA over California residents as the revenues for UC schools will increase by accepting more out-of-state students which was not the case 15-20 years ago where 92% of the students in Cal and UCLA were California residents.
You are not joking around. If your kid has the academic qualifications to get into Cal or UCLA in today's environment... they are pretty much good enough to get into an Ivy League School. Getting them into UCSD or UCI maybe a more realistic expectation for your kids. Admission into UCLA and Cal today is around 17%... this % will probably get down to 11-13% by the time most of our kids are ready to apply for college.
Another thing to add.. 2015 admission data shows me that the out-of-state students have a better chance to get into Cal or UCLA over California residents as the revenues for UC schools will increase by accepting more out-of-state students which was not the case 15-20 years ago where 92% of the students in Cal and UCLA were California residents.
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NewtoIrvine1
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What's crazy is today's UCI/UCSD standards are UCLA/Cal's standards from a decade ago...
Irvine
4.04 GPA 1900ish SAT score So essentially top 90%
San Diego
4.13 GPA 2000ish SAT score...
Irvine
4.04 GPA 1900ish SAT score So essentially top 90%
San Diego
4.13 GPA 2000ish SAT score...
irvinehomeshopper
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My daughter scored 2,390 and received admission to less than 40% of the schools applied to? These scores you listed in a few years will likely be UC Riverside and Merced standards.
NewtoIrvine1 said:
panda
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Here is a post I did several months ago on the education thread. The UCLA acceptance rate of 34% and the total applicants applied in 1998 is almost identical to the stats for Georgia Tech admissions in 2015.
In 1998, close to 90% of the admitted seniors to UCLA were California residents. International students were a minority between 1-2% of the admits and about 9% of the admitted students came from out of state. In state tuition was right around $3500 / year for California residents. Even in 1998, the Asian profile made up 40% of the entering senior class.
The UCLA admissions rate was 33% back in 1998. In 2015. the number of applicants have more than doubled the admissions rate is almost half of what was in 1998 at 17% acceptance rate. As a California resident, the acceptance rate is lower at 17% vs if you are applying as an out of state student at 28%. Acceptance of admitted Out of state students have grown 400% since 1998. This number is significant for international students where this number of admitted students have increased more than 10 folds.
The most interesting part about this these data sets is that Asian demographic make up was 40% in 1998 and in
In 1998, almost 90% of the admitted students to UCLA were California residents. Today that number has dropped to 58%. As a California resident, the odds are now stacked against your children' chances to be admitted to UCLA. The top UC schools are no different than any other large corporation. In order for them to increase more revenue, they will need to admit more international and out of state students who are willing to pay out-of-state tuition.
Even the backdoor, junior college transfer route is no longer easy to get into UCLA as only 28% of the California residents are accepted.
In 1998, close to 90% of the admitted seniors to UCLA were California residents. International students were a minority between 1-2% of the admits and about 9% of the admitted students came from out of state. In state tuition was right around $3500 / year for California residents. Even in 1998, the Asian profile made up 40% of the entering senior class.
The UCLA admissions rate was 33% back in 1998. In 2015. the number of applicants have more than doubled the admissions rate is almost half of what was in 1998 at 17% acceptance rate. As a California resident, the acceptance rate is lower at 17% vs if you are applying as an out of state student at 28%. Acceptance of admitted Out of state students have grown 400% since 1998. This number is significant for international students where this number of admitted students have increased more than 10 folds.
The most interesting part about this these data sets is that Asian demographic make up was 40% in 1998 and in
In 1998, almost 90% of the admitted students to UCLA were California residents. Today that number has dropped to 58%. As a California resident, the odds are now stacked against your children' chances to be admitted to UCLA. The top UC schools are no different than any other large corporation. In order for them to increase more revenue, they will need to admit more international and out of state students who are willing to pay out-of-state tuition.
Even the backdoor, junior college transfer route is no longer easy to get into UCLA as only 28% of the California residents are accepted.
irvinehomeowner said:
Irvine Dream
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Vow, that is almost the perfect score. You must be very proud. How come with that score she had difficulties in Calculus BC?irvinehomeshopper said: