irvinehomeowner
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Oh... "grateful" is your new word for "bragging"? Got it.
INFLATION IS OUR FRIEND
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Mostly because of the wind.... ;D ;D >
In comparison, Kleinman says Irvine has better air quality due to offshore winds, less traffic, and more green spaces than other cities.
Irvine uses 26% of its land for parks and recreation according to the Trust For Public Land. Still, Irvine residents in neighborhoods of color have access to 69% less park space per person than Irvine residents in white neighborhoods, according to the Trust For Public Land.
Orange County?s air quality is still better than most areas in Southern California, according to Marc Carreras Sospedra, air quality specialist at South Coast Air Quality Management District.
?Typically, the worst air quality happens in the Riverside and San Bernardino counties, where the pollution from upwind sources in LA [Los Angeles] and OC [Orange County] is transported and accumulated due to the presence of mountain ranges,? said Sospedra.
He explained that a sea breeze blows air pollution from the coast to counties further inland.
https://voiceofoc.org/2022/01/orange-countys-poor-residents-most-at-risk-from-bad-air-quality/
But of course, a morekaos response for the whole thing would be...
"If that?s how you want to read it?have at it."
Most people do not even have the ability or choice of buying or having EVs
Most in this economy can't...the middle and lower class suffers the most and they don't have many options to ease the pain...sucks for them
Sure. Transportation, processing, labor (union) and feed costs all went up by that and more. It all stems from energy and wages Pay someone $15 bucks to flip your burger and what do you think you will pay for that burger.?...the basics of economics.
No it is basic economics, but it pricing power, oligopolies and market consolidation.
irvinehomeowner
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Oh... let's not forget what you originally said:
Sounds more "braggy" to me.
morekaos said:Really this doesn't affect me much. I drive a 1991 restored Ford Bronco on weekends for fun. My commute is 1/2 a mile from my home by golf cart. The real pain comes in filling up my yacht for this summer..that sucks but I am fortunate, I can afford it. Most in this economy can't...the middle and lower class suffers the most and they don't have many options to ease the pain...sucks for them ;D ;D >
Sounds more "braggy" to me.
morekaos
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Won't get this reporter bragging about her EV...total disaster...
I Rented an Electric Car for a Four-Day Road Trip. I Spent More Time Charging It Than I Did Sleeping.
Our writer drove from New Orleans to Chicago and back to test the feasibility of taking a road trip in an EV. She wouldn?t soon do it again.
For now, however, long-distance travel by electric vehicle proved almost impossible, saving just $100 and costing hours. At several points, Wolfe recalled, the car nearly ran out of battery; they missed several appointments. They also had to take drastic steps to curb their use of power, such as unplugging their phones and turning down their windshield wipers.
She wrote: ?Over four days, we spent $175 on charging. We estimated the equivalent cost for gas in a Kia Forte would have been $275, based on the AAA average national gas price for May 19. That $100 savings cost us many hours in waiting time.?
Wolfe also described conversations with fellow travelers: ?The woman charging next to us describes a harrowing recent trip in her Volkswagen ID.4. Deborah Carrico, 65, had to be towed twice while driving between her Louisville, Ky., apartment and Boulder, Colo., where her daughter was getting married.? She noted that the woman had described feeling unsafe while charging at night, and that her family had urged her to trade in her electric car in favor of an old-fashioned gas model.
Wolfe concluded:
The following week, I fill up my Jetta at a local Shell station. Gas is up to $4.08 a gallon.
I inhale deeply. Fumes never smelled so sweet.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-rent...e-charging-it-than-i-did-sleeping-11654268401
irvinehomeowner said:
I Rented an Electric Car for a Four-Day Road Trip. I Spent More Time Charging It Than I Did Sleeping.
Our writer drove from New Orleans to Chicago and back to test the feasibility of taking a road trip in an EV. She wouldn?t soon do it again.
For now, however, long-distance travel by electric vehicle proved almost impossible, saving just $100 and costing hours. At several points, Wolfe recalled, the car nearly ran out of battery; they missed several appointments. They also had to take drastic steps to curb their use of power, such as unplugging their phones and turning down their windshield wipers.
She wrote: ?Over four days, we spent $175 on charging. We estimated the equivalent cost for gas in a Kia Forte would have been $275, based on the AAA average national gas price for May 19. That $100 savings cost us many hours in waiting time.?
Wolfe also described conversations with fellow travelers: ?The woman charging next to us describes a harrowing recent trip in her Volkswagen ID.4. Deborah Carrico, 65, had to be towed twice while driving between her Louisville, Ky., apartment and Boulder, Colo., where her daughter was getting married.? She noted that the woman had described feeling unsafe while charging at night, and that her family had urged her to trade in her electric car in favor of an old-fashioned gas model.
Wolfe concluded:
The following week, I fill up my Jetta at a local Shell station. Gas is up to $4.08 a gallon.
I inhale deeply. Fumes never smelled so sweet.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-rent...e-charging-it-than-i-did-sleeping-11654268401
morekaos
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zubs said:
Mostly because of the wind.... ;D ;D >
In comparison, Kleinman says Irvine has better air quality due to offshore winds, less traffic, and more green spaces than other cities.
Irvine uses 26% of its land for parks and recreation according to the Trust For Public Land. Still, Irvine residents in neighborhoods of color have access to 69% less park space per person than Irvine residents in white neighborhoods, according to the Trust For Public Land.
Orange County?s air quality is still better than most areas in Southern California, according to Marc Carreras Sospedra, air quality specialist at South Coast Air Quality Management District.
?Typically, the worst air quality happens in the Riverside and San Bernardino counties, where the pollution from upwind sources in LA [Los Angeles] and OC [Orange County] is transported and accumulated due to the presence of mountain ranges,? said Sospedra.
He explained that a sea breeze blows air pollution from the coast to counties further inland.
https://voiceofoc.org/2022/01/orange-countys-poor-residents-most-at-risk-from-bad-air-quality/
the real moral of this story is buying a non-Tesla EV is foolish given the paucity of non-Tesla chargers (and absence of non-Tesla Superchargers) and the vastly superior battery/software/silicon technology employed in Teslas. All of the other auto makers will spend themselves into BK trying to build a profitable EV lineup. My prediction is Ferrari will be the last ICE mfr able to sustain an ICE business while not being dependent on an EV transition given their appeal is the sound of the engine.morekaos said:
not sure why purple font is so sensitive on this whole ev thing, if people feels good about their unicorns and rainbows, so be it, regarding ev's, it's not like they're saying "Most in this economy can't...the middle and lower class suffers the most and they don't have many options to ease the pain...sucks for them"
morekaos
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I just laugh at how gullible people are. The selfishness in the denial of reality is concerning in that, the vast majority of Americans don't live in EV-Multi verse. Most people do not even have the ability or choice of buying or having EVs. They are suffering the consequences of this tiny (2%) minority feeling better about themselves....talk about selfishness...
Gullible? Selfishness? People buy things for their own lifestyle, much like you and your yacht, they also don't feel like paying for gas and save time not going to the gas station, much like your electric golf cartmorekaos said:
But of course, a morekaos response for the whole thing would be...
"If that?s how you want to read it?have at it."
Most people do not even have the ability or choice of buying or having EVs
Most in this economy can't...the middle and lower class suffers the most and they don't have many options to ease the pain...sucks for them
nosuchreality
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For her next article she?ll be writing how she thought riding a motorcycle would be fun and liberating so she set out to drive from Buffalo to Minneapolis for Christmas winter break.
morekaos
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Do what is right for EVERYBODY..not just a small sliver of the country that wants to feel good about themselves but really contribute nothing. Drill now, drill everywere!...drill in my backyard!...drill in your backyard!...flood the market with energy and you will see inflation disappear and growth will overwhelm us all...Drown the market in supply...it is the only way out..go back to the good Multi-verse of just 4 years ago.
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nosuchreality
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No we won?t inflation is driven by corporate behavior. Like the 100% mark up on the Ford Lightning.
Ever stop to ask how beef more than doubled yet rancher price for their cattle never went above 5 year average?
Ever stop to ask how beef more than doubled yet rancher price for their cattle never went above 5 year average?
morekaos
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nosuchreality said:
Sure. Transportation, processing, labor (union) and feed costs all went up by that and more. It all stems from energy and wages Pay someone $15 bucks to flip your burger and what do you think you will pay for that burger.?...the basics of economics.
nosuchreality
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morekaos said:
No it is basic economics, but it pricing power, oligopolies and market consolidation.