[IHB] Eastwood Village: Petaluma Neighborhood Review
- Thread starter zovall
- Start date
NEW -> Contingent Buyer Assistance Program
I paid more for my lot premium that included a driveway. I think its always worth having a driveway for the convenience of being able to park there, not backing straight out into a motorcourt, having bad neighbors that park in front of their garages or illegally (which happens a lot I've noticed). But everyone has their own personal preferences of what they would want to pay for.
If they kept all information open, how will they keep the hype-meter elevated all the time and sell pretty much everything at super premium rates to unsuspecting buyers?
Hypothetically, say they released the future plans and last phases have best lots, driveway etc. Now, all of a sudden more buyers than the lots will end up waiting for those phases and down goes the early phases demand.
is this online? the printed out site map they provide doesn't show it clearly and they purposely didn't draw out the lot lines/homes for future phases.
in the sales office you can see the driveway from future unreleased lots even though they blocked out the lot #s/elevations etc.
I shut down when I hear complaints that start "back in the day". Yes, 'back in the day' you could buy a house w/o paying a premium for a driveway or a big backyard. But 'back in the day', Irvine was considered the outskirts of suburbia. Now, Irvine is considered a newer job center and central to a lot of amenities. If you were fortunate to already own a home before the prices shot up over the past 20 years, you should be happy. If you weren't so fortunate, then either suck it up or go look for a home in the next "Irvine". I personally had to suck it up.
soyi said:
I paid more for my lot premium that included a driveway. I think its always worth having a driveway for the convenience of being able to park there, not backing straight out into a motorcourt, having bad neighbors that park in front of their garages or illegally (which happens a lot I've noticed). But everyone has their own personal preferences of what they would want to pay for.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
So funny how driveways used to be standard and are now "premium".
Irvine is so awesome.
Irvine is so awesome.
I believe all the homes on Rotunda are premium lots with driveways (35k lot premium?)
Its funny but their sitemap blocks it out for un-released phases... making it unclear what will be happening for future phases.
Beyond all those homes on Rotunda street/drive, a few homes scattered around will have driveways too (I think about 3 more last I counted). Of particular interesting one is the one at the edge of Gulfstream with a big lot and its own curved in, deep driveway. That one will command quite a price premium.
Driveway is a good thing for most of these detached condo IMO. generally you get a bigger lot too and the homes have a definite more single family home feel to them.
Its funny but their sitemap blocks it out for un-released phases... making it unclear what will be happening for future phases.
Beyond all those homes on Rotunda street/drive, a few homes scattered around will have driveways too (I think about 3 more last I counted). Of particular interesting one is the one at the edge of Gulfstream with a big lot and its own curved in, deep driveway. That one will command quite a price premium.
Driveway is a good thing for most of these detached condo IMO. generally you get a bigger lot too and the homes have a definite more single family home feel to them.
Cornflakes
Active member
capboba said:
If they kept all information open, how will they keep the hype-meter elevated all the time and sell pretty much everything at super premium rates to unsuspecting buyers?
Hypothetically, say they released the future plans and last phases have best lots, driveway etc. Now, all of a sudden more buyers than the lots will end up waiting for those phases and down goes the early phases demand.
irvinetabby
New member
As of phase 4, the driveway premium is 40k. Though it was 30k for the first phase.
acf said:
is this online? the printed out site map they provide doesn't show it clearly and they purposely didn't draw out the lot lines/homes for future phases.
in the sales office you can see the driveway from future unreleased lots even though they blocked out the lot #s/elevations etc.
If you think Petaluma is expensive, check out this Sienna home at LA. $978,888!
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/81-Bianco-92618/home/58555948
BTW, Sienna is Petaluma's twin in LA and this home have some very nice upgrades.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/81-Bianco-92618/home/58555948
BTW, Sienna is Petaluma's twin in LA and this home have some very nice upgrades.
I checked all resale home in market in last few month. I have been in market for almost half year.
Actually price of Petaluma is very reasonable. Some closed sales of San Mateo from STG is above 800K. (some of them have low upgrades, maybe only like 10K cost of upgrade)
EW is definitely better than STG in terms of location and school.
So, Petaluma worth the price. It's so popular with this price.
Petaluma price is good
Avalon is OK, not good, not bad.
Helena is great? (Lower than what I originally thought)
Marin is too bad.
Piedmont is hard to say. Terrazza sells so slow. What's the reason?? I actually did not know too much about Terrazza.
Belvedere, I guess it's reasonable. Strada is going into the last few phases. Price keeps going high(1.1M+ now for smallest plan). Belvedere is a copy of Strada with a little bit larger size.
Actually price of Petaluma is very reasonable. Some closed sales of San Mateo from STG is above 800K. (some of them have low upgrades, maybe only like 10K cost of upgrade)
EW is definitely better than STG in terms of location and school.
So, Petaluma worth the price. It's so popular with this price.
Petaluma price is good
Avalon is OK, not good, not bad.
Helena is great? (Lower than what I originally thought)
Marin is too bad.
Piedmont is hard to say. Terrazza sells so slow. What's the reason?? I actually did not know too much about Terrazza.
Belvedere, I guess it's reasonable. Strada is going into the last few phases. Price keeps going high(1.1M+ now for smallest plan). Belvedere is a copy of Strada with a little bit larger size.
lnc said:
irvinehomeshopper
Well-known member
Back in the days when I bought my home the only thing that could be charged as premium was the ocean or city light view.
Big yard and driveways were standards. The third car garage was standard. Buyers would not even consider one without it. Volume was standard.
White people were eager and happy to see a Chinese family moving into the neighborhood. Signal lights were at least a mile apart. Driving from Turtle Rock to the top of Tustin Ranch took less than 10 minutes at rush hour traffic. Cops were racking up their quota writing speeding tickets on Fwy 5 during the morning rush hours when workers drove like 85 mph at 8:55 am hence the term called "rush" hour. Now it should be called snail hour.
I feel so sad for the current millennial generation that so much have been striped from them and paying so much for so little. And for what used to be standards are now an outrageous premium. Having a driveway is like a gift from God.
All that is very sad indeed. I have listened to this group for 10 years and seeing this trend of a downward spiral of mediocrity design. I can't persuade the greedy developers in California to lowering land prices. All I could do is to design a clever million $ dream castle into a little box where the developer can't charge a lot since the footage is small.
The best way to counter greed is preventing the developer from building footage. Developers love inefficient design such as huge bathrooms and super wide hallways to fluff up footage to sell you a bigger house. Footage is cheap to build with some nails, cheap studs and drywall.
Big yard and driveways were standards. The third car garage was standard. Buyers would not even consider one without it. Volume was standard.
White people were eager and happy to see a Chinese family moving into the neighborhood. Signal lights were at least a mile apart. Driving from Turtle Rock to the top of Tustin Ranch took less than 10 minutes at rush hour traffic. Cops were racking up their quota writing speeding tickets on Fwy 5 during the morning rush hours when workers drove like 85 mph at 8:55 am hence the term called "rush" hour. Now it should be called snail hour.
I feel so sad for the current millennial generation that so much have been striped from them and paying so much for so little. And for what used to be standards are now an outrageous premium. Having a driveway is like a gift from God.
All that is very sad indeed. I have listened to this group for 10 years and seeing this trend of a downward spiral of mediocrity design. I can't persuade the greedy developers in California to lowering land prices. All I could do is to design a clever million $ dream castle into a little box where the developer can't charge a lot since the footage is small.
The best way to counter greed is preventing the developer from building footage. Developers love inefficient design such as huge bathrooms and super wide hallways to fluff up footage to sell you a bigger house. Footage is cheap to build with some nails, cheap studs and drywall.
irvinehomeowner said:
paydawg
Active member
irvinehomeshopper said:
I shut down when I hear complaints that start "back in the day". Yes, 'back in the day' you could buy a house w/o paying a premium for a driveway or a big backyard. But 'back in the day', Irvine was considered the outskirts of suburbia. Now, Irvine is considered a newer job center and central to a lot of amenities. If you were fortunate to already own a home before the prices shot up over the past 20 years, you should be happy. If you weren't so fortunate, then either suck it up or go look for a home in the next "Irvine". I personally had to suck it up.
Irvinehomeshopper - I hear you, but this is the way the world is. It's not going to go backwards. 20 years ago when I grew up in Vancouver, we were all lucky enough to live in nice big houses in great locations. Now as my friends have grown up they are either living in small condos or houses on the outskirts if they are lucky.