Hidden Canyon in Irvine

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Speaking as one of the longtime doomsday cultist, I have to say what I couldn't fathom was what SGIP calls the Fed going "full-japanese".

When that happened, or at least when it sunk in (mid 2012), I bought.
 
Full Japanese (ZIRP forever) - I modded post. From:

[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_interest-rate_policy][/url]

Everybody know you should never go full Japanese....
 
I am thinking buying a house at hidden canyon and getting pre-qualified , etc
I am wondering if anyone know if it will be difficult to get house insurance since it is next to nature perserve area and possible potential fire hazard
Any feedback would be helpful thanks


 
Oncdoc said:
I am thinking buying a house at hidden canyon and getting pre-qualified , etc
I am wondering if anyone know if it will be difficult to get house insurance since it is next to nature perserve area and possible potential fire hazard
Any feedback would be helpful thanks

I doubted. 

Portola Spring and Orchard Hill are at higher risk of wildfire and home owners there don't have any issues getting the insurance so I don't think there will be an issue for HC.
 
Oncdoc said:
I am thinking buying a house at hidden canyon and getting pre-qualified , etc
I am wondering if anyone know if it will be difficult to get house insurance since it is next to nature perserve area and possible potential fire hazard
Any feedback would be helpful thanks

I have already gotten a quote with Farmers. I didn't have any issues.
 
irvine99 said:
Oncdoc said:
I am thinking buying a house at hidden canyon and getting pre-qualified , etc
I am wondering if anyone know if it will be difficult to get house insurance since it is next to nature perserve area and possible potential fire hazard
Any feedback would be helpful thanks

I have already gotten a quote with Farmers. I didn't have any issues.

Are your rate higher than the houses around irvine area??
 
Looks like both Marbella and Capri have deposits on all homes but one released to date.    Seems like Toll has locked down buyers for $100M+ of inventory in under 6 weeks.  It will be interesting to see if pricing for both communities holds at current levels after the models open.  If Toscana in Laguna Altura is selling at $600/sf, these homes may actually be priced under market. 
 
OC-Broker said:
Looks like both Marbella and Capri have deposits on all homes but one released to date.    Seems like Toll has locked down buyers for $100M+ of inventory in under 6 weeks.

Bananas. When are these opening so us peons can go see?
 
OC-Broker said:
If Toscana in Laguna Altura is selling at $600/sf, these homes may actually be priced under market. 

there is no such thing as being priced under-market.
 
I think pricing will adjust upward considerably as there are less units to be absorbed.  Just my take based on the current sales velocity. Toll is a public company, so I think their strategy was to sell the first units quickly so they could book profits before their fiscal year end in Oct.
 
Bones, the tentative grand opening for the public is Saturday, April 11.

I was through the Marbella models Saturday and they are staged; crews are completing the landscaping, cleanup, etc., but overall, the models are looking very good. (Some very cool pools...)
 
OC-Broker said:
Looks like both Marbella and Capri have deposits on all homes but one released to date.    Seems like Toll has locked down buyers for $100M+ of inventory in under 6 weeks.  It will be interesting to see if pricing for both communities holds at current levels after the models open.  If Toscana in Laguna Altura is selling at $600/sf, these homes may actually be priced under market.

I spoke to one of the higher ups at Toll and the plan is to adjust pricing upward with each phase and with increasing percentages from prior phases because sales have been so strong. That's why we chose to move on Phase 2 versus waiting for the larger lots that will come online in the later phases cause pricing will be through the roof later if demand holds! On some of the structural options alone, they increased the pricing by almost 40% from Phase 2 to 3 (i.e. the conservatory we added went from roughly low $30s to now mid 40s). So crazy.
 
Grayston said:
OC-Broker said:
Looks like both Marbella and Capri have deposits on all homes but one released to date.    Seems like Toll has locked down buyers for $100M+ of inventory in under 6 weeks.  It will be interesting to see if pricing for both communities holds at current levels after the models open.  If Toscana in Laguna Altura is selling at $600/sf, these homes may actually be priced under market.

I spoke to one of the higher ups at Toll and the plan is to adjust pricing upward with each phase and with increasing percentages from prior phases because sales have been so strong. That's why we chose to move on Phase 2 versus waiting for the larger lots that will come online in the later phases cause pricing will be through the roof later if demand holds! On some of the structural options alone, they increased the pricing by almost 40% from Phase 2 to 3 (i.e. the conservatory we added went from roughly-7 low $30s to now mid 40s). So crazy.

How far is your nearest neighbor?
 
eyephone said:
Grayston said:
OC-Broker said:
Looks like both Marbella and Capri have deposits on all homes but one released to date.    Seems like Toll has locked down buyers for $100M+ of inventory in under 6 weeks.  It will be interesting to see if pricing for both communities holds at current levels after the models open.  If Toscana in Laguna Altura is selling at $600/sf, these homes may actually be priced under market.

I spoke to one of the higher ups at Toll and the plan is to adjust pricing upward with each phase and with increasing percentages from prior phases because sales have been so strong. That's why we chose to move on Phase 2 versus waiting for the larger lots that will come online in the later phases cause pricing will be through the roof later if demand holds! On some of the structural options alone, they increased the pricing by almost 40% from Phase 2 to 3 (i.e. the conservatory we added went from roughly-7 low $30s to now mid 40s). So crazy.

How far is your nearest neighbor?

Unfortunately like most Irvine/Newport homes, the neighbors are close. I even went to a custom shady home for $5million last month just for kicks and was shocked at how close the neigbors were. I think to get some distance from your neighbors you have to live in other parts of OC or pay a ton for a custom home.
 
irvine99 said:
Oncdoc said:
I am thinking buying a house at hidden canyon and getting pre-qualified , etc
I am wondering if anyone know if it will be difficult to get house insurance since it is next to nature perserve area and possible potential fire hazard
Any feedback would be helpful thanks

I have already gotten a quote with Farmers. I didn't have any issues.


Where is your lot? the lot we are interested is located on the periphery of the community and back against a hill and the nature preserve  (on the side of 133 hwy) ... part of the backyard is labeled as a fuel modification zone.  I wonder whether it would a problem getting home insurance and whether there will be extra surcharge .
 
Grayston said:
I spoke to one of the higher ups at Toll and the plan is to adjust pricing upward with each phase and with increasing percentages from prior phases because sales have been so strong. That's why we chose to move on Phase 2 versus waiting for the larger lots that will come online in the later phases cause pricing will be through the roof later if demand holds! On some of the structural options alone, they increased the pricing by almost 40% from Phase 2 to 3 (i.e. the conservatory we added went from roughly low $30s to now mid 40s). So crazy.

I think the structural option pricing is dependent on the floorplan (e.g. Santa Monica conservatory is $32550 vs. Avalon $48300). Which floorplan did you go with?
 
inagawa said:
Grayston said:
I spoke to one of the higher ups at Toll and the plan is to adjust pricing upward with each phase and with increasing percentages from prior phases because sales have been so strong. That's why we chose to move on Phase 2 versus waiting for the larger lots that will come online in the later phases cause pricing will be through the roof later if demand holds! On some of the structural options alone, they increased the pricing by almost 40% from Phase 2 to 3 (i.e. the conservatory we added went from roughly low $30s to now mid 40s). So crazy.

I think the structural option pricing is dependent on the floorplan (e.g. Santa Monica conservatory is $32550 vs. Avalon $48300). Which floorplan did you go with?

I have the Santa Monica and the phase 3 conservatory is now $43,400, I'm pretty sure the Avalon is in the 50s now for the conservatory. If you were looking at the sales floor option book, that is outdated and reflects pricing for Phase 1 & 2. The updated pricing is on the toll brothers "My Toll Home" where you pick all your options once you've signed a contract.
 
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