Great Park Homeless Shelter
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I oversee the operation.
You going? Please report back to us if you can.
Seems like Irvine is going to be bullied to doing stuff or pay up!
We should all get some Talk Irvine Tshirts. TI APPROVED!
This will be first for me as well...not sure what the format is. Just reading on the city website, I think there is a way for you to address your concern:
Speaker's Card/Request to Speak: If you would like to address the City Council/Board of Directors on a scheduled agenda item, including a Consent Calendar item, a Regular Council/Board Business item, a Public Hearing item, or Public Comments, please complete the "Request to Speak Form." The card is at the table at the entrance to the City Council Chamber. Please identify on the card your name and the item on which you would like to speak and return to the City Clerk. The "Request to Speak Form" assists the Mayor/Chair in ensuring that all persons wishing to address the City Council/Board of Directors are recognized. It also ensures the accurate identification of meeting participants in the City Council/Board minutes. Your name will be called at the time the matter is heard by the City Council/Board of Directors. City policy is to limit public testimony to up to three minutes per speaker depending on relevant circumstances (unless the time limit is extended by the Mayor/Chair), which includes the presentation of electronic or audio visual information. Speakers may not yield their time to other persons.
I would atleast like to be there to hear and get a sense of city's stance and next steps.
When I read the City's response to the proposed shelter, I got the impression that the city is opposed citing safety & other reasons. Some excerpts from the document that I think represent's the city's current reponse:
Public Safetv Implicat?ons
This proposal places what appears to be a very loosely regulated homeless shelter with
little to no formal services in an area adjacent to residential neighborhoods, large vacant
buildings and the OC Great Park. The vacant buildings may become further blighted
should any of the clients seek shelter in them. The OC Great Park may see significant
loitering and panhandling nuisances from clients that are seeking activity and income.
There is also the possibility for significant community backlash should this proposal
become a reality. The perception of a poorly regulated homeless shelter could
complicate the community's perception and support for City and Land Trust affordable
housing efforts, and harm broader City goals of effectively serving low-income
populations.
Based on a review of all information provided by the proposal and supplemental staff
research, which is outlined in the attachment to this memo, Supervisor Nelson's
proposal is wholly unsatisfactory and could present significant nuisance and public
safety concerns for both on-site clients and lrvine businesses and residents in the
surrounding area.
Like the cemetery.. just really doubt it happens. Just an odd place to build.
we should just tout feng shui here at TI.. will probably show up on OC register.
Let's say in next few months or a year the proposal get stalled, what if it get picked up again in a year or 2?
The proposed land belongs to the county. If it stays vacant, the county can thrust it down the city to build the shelter. Even the city has indicated somewhere in the docs that this 100 acre land could be used for temporary housing.
Let's assume IP and GP builders can push this off until all homes are built( i.e. builders made their money),then who is going to exert the influence to prevent this shelter from being built?
For what reason would this particular piece of land be a good fit for a homeless shelter? There are no jobs in close proximity of that area, there is no public transportation, and it's right next to a massive park and many residential neighborhoods are located - where kids reside. To top it off, there is no large homeless population currently residing in the Irvine vicinity.
irvinebullhousing
Well-known member
eyephone said:
I oversee the operation.
Irvinehomeseeker
Active member
The city of irvine will be discussing the proposed homeless shelter in the city council meeting tomorrow, it's on the agenda ..
http://irvine.granicus.com/GeneratedAgendaViewer.php?event_id=da59d700-29a9-4641-b42d-7fb927cec857
http://irvine.granicus.com/GeneratedAgendaViewer.php?event_id=da59d700-29a9-4641-b42d-7fb927cec857
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jmoney74
Guest
Irvinehomeseeker said:
You going? Please report back to us if you can.
Seems like Irvine is going to be bullied to doing stuff or pay up!
Irvinehomeseeker
Active member
Yes, I am. More folks should attend to show opposition.
More info on the agenda item at http://irvine.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=&event_id=1174&meta_id=78169
More info on the agenda item at http://irvine.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=&event_id=1174&meta_id=78169
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jmoney74
Guest
eyephone said:
We should all get some Talk Irvine Tshirts. TI APPROVED!
Irvinehomeseeker
Active member
Sakred said:
This will be first for me as well...not sure what the format is. Just reading on the city website, I think there is a way for you to address your concern:
Speaker's Card/Request to Speak: If you would like to address the City Council/Board of Directors on a scheduled agenda item, including a Consent Calendar item, a Regular Council/Board Business item, a Public Hearing item, or Public Comments, please complete the "Request to Speak Form." The card is at the table at the entrance to the City Council Chamber. Please identify on the card your name and the item on which you would like to speak and return to the City Clerk. The "Request to Speak Form" assists the Mayor/Chair in ensuring that all persons wishing to address the City Council/Board of Directors are recognized. It also ensures the accurate identification of meeting participants in the City Council/Board minutes. Your name will be called at the time the matter is heard by the City Council/Board of Directors. City policy is to limit public testimony to up to three minutes per speaker depending on relevant circumstances (unless the time limit is extended by the Mayor/Chair), which includes the presentation of electronic or audio visual information. Speakers may not yield their time to other persons.
I would atleast like to be there to hear and get a sense of city's stance and next steps.
When I read the City's response to the proposed shelter, I got the impression that the city is opposed citing safety & other reasons. Some excerpts from the document that I think represent's the city's current reponse:
Public Safetv Implicat?ons
This proposal places what appears to be a very loosely regulated homeless shelter with
little to no formal services in an area adjacent to residential neighborhoods, large vacant
buildings and the OC Great Park. The vacant buildings may become further blighted
should any of the clients seek shelter in them. The OC Great Park may see significant
loitering and panhandling nuisances from clients that are seeking activity and income.
There is also the possibility for significant community backlash should this proposal
become a reality. The perception of a poorly regulated homeless shelter could
complicate the community's perception and support for City and Land Trust affordable
housing efforts, and harm broader City goals of effectively serving low-income
populations.
Based on a review of all information provided by the proposal and supplemental staff
research, which is outlined in the attachment to this memo, Supervisor Nelson's
proposal is wholly unsatisfactory and could present significant nuisance and public
safety concerns for both on-site clients and lrvine businesses and residents in the
surrounding area.
So I managed to record the part of the meeting where they discussed the shelter. It was a topic of priority. Below is the youtube link. Its about 11 mins of discussion. My take after hearing what our reps had to say, is that everyone is on the same page when it comes down to this proposal. Everyone is also very cautious about terminology when it comes down to saying the obvious .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx3CSQnIJsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx3CSQnIJsM
Irvinehomeseeker
Active member
It seems this risk of homeless shelter on the proposed site will be around until something else gets built there. If someone is considering a home purchase around that area then they need to be concerned.
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jmoney74
Guest
Prototype said:
Like the cemetery.. just really doubt it happens. Just an odd place to build.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
Yaliu was only concerned about dead people.
Unless homeless people are now bad for Feng Shui.
Unless homeless people are now bad for Feng Shui.
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jmoney74
Guest
irvinehomeowner said:
we should just tout feng shui here at TI.. will probably show up on OC register.
Irvinehomeseeker
Active member
Prototype said:
Let's say in next few months or a year the proposal get stalled, what if it get picked up again in a year or 2?
The proposed land belongs to the county. If it stays vacant, the county can thrust it down the city to build the shelter. Even the city has indicated somewhere in the docs that this 100 acre land could be used for temporary housing.
Let's assume IP and GP builders can push this off until all homes are built( i.e. builders made their money),then who is going to exert the influence to prevent this shelter from being built?
paydawg
Active member
Irvinehomeseeker said:
For what reason would this particular piece of land be a good fit for a homeless shelter? There are no jobs in close proximity of that area, there is no public transportation, and it's right next to a massive park and many residential neighborhoods are located - where kids reside. To top it off, there is no large homeless population currently residing in the Irvine vicinity.