coronavirus

[akula1488]

Australia compensates for vaccine injuries and recognizes natural immunity from prior infections...(they are hardcore in containing this with a lot more restrictions and even COVID camp). Why isn't US doing this?
And you can clearly see the US media bias on this. Djokovic is a anti vax moron or not, but the rule is there made by the Australia local government so he probably just exploits the rule. If you check US media they will leave out this rule as if they don't want to use the word natural immunity
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...s-immunity-infection-provide-much-protection/

Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation guidelines state exemptions can be given for those with acute medical conditions, those who have had Covid-19 in the past six months or have had a serious adverse event from a previous Covid vaccine dose.

 

[morekaos]

Fox 11 LA: OC Deputy DA, vocal critic of vaccine mandates, dies of COVID-19

ORANGE COUNTY - Orange County Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby has died of COVID-19, according to Ben Chapman, Chairman of the Greater Costa Mesa Republicans. Ernby was an outspoken critic of COVID-19 vaccine mandates on a number of occasions.
https://www.foxla.com/news/oc-deputy-da-vocal-critic-of-vaccine-mandates-dies-of-covid-19.amp

According to foxla news (send your complaints to them not me)
My reaction: hmm

987 Fully Vaccinated Virginia Residents Have Died Of COVID-19 In 1 Year

Nearly 1,000 fully vaccinated residents in Virginia have died of COVID-19 over the past year as infections and deaths continue to rise in the last week.

Health officers in Virginia have recorded at least 987 breakthrough COVID-19 deaths between Jan. 17 and Dec. 25, 2021. The figure represents 0.0172% of the state?s fully vaccinated population, according to a Friday report from the Virginia Department of Health.
https://www.ibtimes.com/987-fully-vaccinated-virginia-residents-have-died-covid-19-1-year-3372174

My reaction: hmm

 

[Ready2Downsize]

Fox 11 LA: OC Deputy DA, vocal critic of vaccine mandates, dies of COVID-19

ORANGE COUNTY - Orange County Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby has died of COVID-19, according to Ben Chapman, Chairman of the Greater Costa Mesa Republicans. Ernby was an outspoken critic of COVID-19 vaccine mandates on a number of occasions.
https://www.foxla.com/news/oc-deputy-da-vocal-critic-of-vaccine-mandates-dies-of-covid-19.amp

According to foxla news (send your complaints to them not me)
My reaction: hmm

987 Fully Vaccinated Virginia Residents Have Died Of COVID-19 In 1 Year

Nearly 1,000 fully vaccinated residents in Virginia have died of COVID-19 over the past year as infections and deaths continue to rise in the last week.

Health officers in Virginia have recorded at least 987 breakthrough COVID-19 deaths between Jan. 17 and Dec. 25, 2021. The figure represents 0.0172% of the state?s fully vaccinated population, according to a Friday report from the Virginia Department of Health.
https://www.ibtimes.com/987-fully-vaccinated-virginia-residents-have-died-covid-19-1-year-3372174

My reaction: hmm

Pfizer and Moderna are working on a vaccine that will work against Omicron. Pfizer should be ready in March:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/cov...s-omicron-vaccine-will-be-ready-in-march.html

Not sure why we need it if the current boosters work but there it is.... a little food for thought. My feeling is by then most of us will have had omicron.

 

[eyephone]

Fox 11 LA: OC Deputy DA, vocal critic of vaccine mandates, dies of COVID-19

ORANGE COUNTY - Orange County Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby has died of COVID-19, according to Ben Chapman, Chairman of the Greater Costa Mesa Republicans. Ernby was an outspoken critic of COVID-19 vaccine mandates on a number of occasions.
https://www.foxla.com/news/oc-deputy-da-vocal-critic-of-vaccine-mandates-dies-of-covid-19.amp

According to foxla news (send your complaints to them not me)
My reaction: hmm

987 Fully Vaccinated Virginia Residents Have Died Of COVID-19 In 1 Year

Nearly 1,000 fully vaccinated residents in Virginia have died of COVID-19 over the past year as infections and deaths continue to rise in the last week.

Health officers in Virginia have recorded at least 987 breakthrough COVID-19 deaths between Jan. 17 and Dec. 25, 2021. The figure represents 0.0172% of the state?s fully vaccinated population, according to a Friday report from the Virginia Department of Health.
https://www.ibtimes.com/987-fully-vaccinated-virginia-residents-have-died-covid-19-1-year-3372174

My reaction: hmm

Wait are you vaccinated and you are against vaccination like the other guy. lolz

 

[morekaos]

I never said I was vaccinated....for your review...

Funny you should bring that up Eye...My entire family was infected a few weeks ago.  CDC interviewed us twice and cleared us last week.  We were of interest to them because two of the four were vaccinated and the other two were not, yet all four tested positive.  We were a case study.  No real difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.  In fact one of the un-vaccinated was asymptomatic.  As I suspected...no big deal...sore throats and stuffy noses.  One had a temp spike one day but this was a bad cold.  I will never wear a mask again. Back in the office and my wife is a teacher...she is back in school too prepping for the new school year.  Yawn...

 

[akula1488]

Curious question, for people who are holding out this long, does it make sense to skip the first 3 shots and just get the 4th shot?

Fox 11 LA: OC Deputy DA, vocal critic of vaccine mandates, dies of COVID-19

ORANGE COUNTY - Orange County Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby has died of COVID-19, according to Ben Chapman, Chairman of the Greater Costa Mesa Republicans. Ernby was an outspoken critic of COVID-19 vaccine mandates on a number of occasions.
https://www.foxla.com/news/oc-deputy-da-vocal-critic-of-vaccine-mandates-dies-of-covid-19.amp

According to foxla news (send your complaints to them not me)
My reaction: hmm

987 Fully Vaccinated Virginia Residents Have Died Of COVID-19 In 1 Year

Nearly 1,000 fully vaccinated residents in Virginia have died of COVID-19 over the past year as infections and deaths continue to rise in the last week.

Health officers in Virginia have recorded at least 987 breakthrough COVID-19 deaths between Jan. 17 and Dec. 25, 2021. The figure represents 0.0172% of the state?s fully vaccinated population, according to a Friday report from the Virginia Department of Health.
https://www.ibtimes.com/987-fully-vaccinated-virginia-residents-have-died-covid-19-1-year-3372174

My reaction: hmm

Pfizer and Moderna are working on a vaccine that will work against Omicron. Pfizer should be ready in March:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/cov...s-omicron-vaccine-will-be-ready-in-march.html

Not sure why we need it if the current boosters work but there it is.... a little food for thought. My feeling is by then most of us will have had omicron.

 

[eyephone]

Just making sure, because the other guy is vaccinated. Then talking crap. Thats like saying dont smoke, but you smoke a pack a day. or like saying I dont believe in electric cars but you own two teslas. (kinda does not make sense)

I never said I was vaccinated....for your review...

Funny you should bring that up Eye...My entire family was infected a few weeks ago.  CDC interviewed us twice and cleared us last week.  We were of interest to them because two of the four were vaccinated and the other two were not, yet all four tested positive.  We were a case study.  No real difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.  In fact one of the un-vaccinated was asymptomatic.  As I suspected...no big deal...sore throats and stuffy noses.  One had a temp spike one day but this was a bad cold.  I will never wear a mask again. Back in the office and my wife is a teacher...she is back in school too prepping for the new school year.  Yawn...

 

[Liar Loan]

Even wise Latina supreme court justices are prone to jumping on the COVID misinformation bandwagon.

WaPo Awards Four Pinocchios: Sotomayor?s false claim that ?over 100,000? children are in 'serious condition? with covid

Flowers, who said he had been twice vaccinated and received a booster, participated remotely after testing positive for covid. His symptoms were said to be ?exceptionally mild.?

?My presence here as a triple vaccinated individual by phone? suggested ?vaccines do not appear to be very effective in stopping the spread or transmission,? he said, though he added that vaccines are effective at preventing ?severe consequences.? That?s when Sotomayor interrupted him to assert ?those numbers show that omicron is as deadly and causes as much serious disease in the unvaccinated as delta did.? She argued that ?saying it?s a different variant just underscores the fact? a workplace rule was needed.

Actually, as we have shown, that?s not what the brief said. In fact, it even argued that vaccinated individuals might be more likely to catch covid rather than unvaccinated individuals.

But then Sotomayor went off the rails: ?We have over 100,000 children, which we?ve never had before, in serious condition and many on ventilators.?

That?s wildly incorrect, assuming she is referring to hospitalizations, given the reference to ventilators. According to HHS data, as of Jan. 8 there are about 5,000 children hospitalized in a pediatric bed, either with suspected covid or a confirmed laboratory test. This figure includes patients in observation beds. So Sotomayor?s number is at least 20 times higher than reality, even before you determine how many are in ?serious condition.?

Moreover, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there have been less than 100,000 ? 82,843 to be exact ? hospital admissions of children confirmed with covid since Aug. 1, 2020.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...00-children-are-serious-condition-with-covid/

 

[eyephone]

Didnt you say your vaccinated?  ;D

Even wise Latina supreme court justices are prone to jumping on the COVID misinformation bandwagon.

WaPo Awards Four Pinocchios: Sotomayor?s false claim that ?over 100,000? children are in 'serious condition? with covid

Flowers, who said he had been twice vaccinated and received a booster, participated remotely after testing positive for covid. His symptoms were said to be ?exceptionally mild.?

?My presence here as a triple vaccinated individual by phone? suggested ?vaccines do not appear to be very effective in stopping the spread or transmission,? he said, though he added that vaccines are effective at preventing ?severe consequences.? That?s when Sotomayor interrupted him to assert ?those numbers show that omicron is as deadly and causes as much serious disease in the unvaccinated as delta did.? She argued that ?saying it?s a different variant just underscores the fact? a workplace rule was needed.

Actually, as we have shown, that?s not what the brief said. In fact, it even argued that vaccinated individuals might be more likely to catch covid rather than unvaccinated individuals.

But then Sotomayor went off the rails: ?We have over 100,000 children, which we?ve never had before, in serious condition and many on ventilators.?

That?s wildly incorrect, assuming she is referring to hospitalizations, given the reference to ventilators. According to HHS data, as of Jan. 8 there are about 5,000 children hospitalized in a pediatric bed, either with suspected covid or a confirmed laboratory test. This figure includes patients in observation beds. So Sotomayor?s number is at least 20 times higher than reality, even before you determine how many are in ?serious condition.?

Moreover, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there have been less than 100,000 ? 82,843 to be exact ? hospital admissions of children confirmed with covid since Aug. 1, 2020.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...00-children-are-serious-condition-with-covid/

 

[akula1488]

Thank you. I was going to post this but misinformation is indeed from both sides of political spectrum and Calbears and Eyephone are dead silent if I post links from CNN , MSNBC, fact checkers from Reuters that go against the narrative (these sources are contended by the right as biased, nonetheless).
Reputable science sources like Lancelot and Nature are being discounted and ignored. Even sources from countries like Japan and Taiwan where there is no left vs right ideology like we have in the US are being ignored.

So now Eyephone is all about asking ones vaccination status (does it really matter? You can be vaccinated but against the mandate or you can be vaccinated because of job requirement for example) and Calbears just simply call people morons.

Even wise Latina supreme court justices are prone to jumping on the COVID misinformation bandwagon.

WaPo Awards Four Pinocchios: Sotomayor?s false claim that ?over 100,000? children are in 'serious condition? with covid

Flowers, who said he had been twice vaccinated and received a booster, participated remotely after testing positive for covid. His symptoms were said to be ?exceptionally mild.?

?My presence here as a triple vaccinated individual by phone? suggested ?vaccines do not appear to be very effective in stopping the spread or transmission,? he said, though he added that vaccines are effective at preventing ?severe consequences.? That?s when Sotomayor interrupted him to assert ?those numbers show that omicron is as deadly and causes as much serious disease in the unvaccinated as delta did.? She argued that ?saying it?s a different variant just underscores the fact? a workplace rule was needed.

Actually, as we have shown, that?s not what the brief said. In fact, it even argued that vaccinated individuals might be more likely to catch covid rather than unvaccinated individuals.

But then Sotomayor went off the rails: ?We have over 100,000 children, which we?ve never had before, in serious condition and many on ventilators.?

That?s wildly incorrect, assuming she is referring to hospitalizations, given the reference to ventilators. According to HHS data, as of Jan. 8 there are about 5,000 children hospitalized in a pediatric bed, either with suspected covid or a confirmed laboratory test. This figure includes patients in observation beds. So Sotomayor?s number is at least 20 times higher than reality, even before you determine how many are in ?serious condition.?

Moreover, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there have been less than 100,000 ? 82,843 to be exact ? hospital admissions of children confirmed with covid since Aug. 1, 2020.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...00-children-are-serious-condition-with-covid/

 

[Liar Loan]

Didnt you say your vaccinated?  ;D

Whatever side of the debate you land on, I think it's super important that we all rely on factual information.

So when CalBears makes the claim that the vaccine helps against Omicron based on only four US cases, I'm going to dispute that, because it's unscientific and anti-statistic.  The part of the WaPo article that I bolded also proves his assertion wrong, which means it was misinformation.  He will no doubt respond to this factual information with his usual classless behavior, but facts are facts.

Likewise, Supreme Court justices are not immune from the facts.  They are making huge decisions for millions of Americans, so when a leading member of the opposition relies on a stat that is 20x exaggerated, it needs to be called out.  Credibility is a huge problem for the Supreme Court right now, and relying on fake statistics is only going to make their credibility sink further.

 

[akula1488]

Comedian Bob Seget died after recent booster shot.
You see how the word game is being played here to make it looks like it is due to the booster? No one knows and I am not claiming it is. But you can always play this game. Like if we can say many people are in the hospital are with Covid, we can say the same thing for people who are in the hospital with recent vaccine shots?

Just like that orange county lady who passed away and by stating her  anti mandate stance,  the news want the readers to associate her with anti vax and attribute her death to Covid...Creating a narrative that Eyephone simply falls over.

 

[eyephone]

Didnt you say your vaccinated?  ;D

Whatever side of the debate you land on, I think it's super important that we all rely on factual information.

So when CalBears makes the claim that the vaccine helps against Omicron based on only four US cases, I'm going to dispute that, because it's unscientific and anti-statistic.  The part of the WaPo article that I bolded also proves his assertion wrong, which means it was misinformation.  He will no doubt respond to this factual information with his usual classless behavior, but facts are facts.

Likewise, Supreme Court justices are not immune from the facts.  They are making huge decisions for millions of Americans, so when a leading member of the opposition relies on a stat that is 20x exaggerated, it needs to be called out.  Credibility is a huge problem for the Supreme Court right now, and relying on fake statistics is only going to make their credibility sink further.

You cant answer the question. But you said you are. Correct?

 

[eyephone]

Comedian Bob Seget died after recent booster shot.
You see how the word game is being played here to make it looks like it is due to the booster? No one knows and I am not claiming it is. But you can always play this game. Like if we can say many people are in the hospital are with Covid, we can say the same thing for people who are in the hospital with recent vaccine shots?

Didnt you say you were vaccinated?

 

[morekaos]

Comedian Bob Seget died after recent booster shot.
You see how the word game is being played here to make it looks like it is due to the booster? No one knows and I am not claiming it is. But you can always play this game. Like if we can say many people are in the hospital are with Covid, we can say the same thing for people who are in the hospital with recent vaccine shots?

Didnt you say you were vaccinated?

Again..why does that matter Eye?  One can be vaccinated and against Vaccine MANDATES...as Akula seems to be.  Looks like deflection on your part BC you don't like what he is saying...Squirrel!!!.

 

[morekaos]

Comedian Bob Seget died after recent booster shot.
You see how the word game is being played here to make it looks like it is due to the booster? No one knows and I am not claiming it is. But you can always play this game. Like if we can say many people are in the hospital are with Covid, we can say the same thing for people who are in the hospital with recent vaccine shots?

Just like that orange county lady who passed away and by stating her  anti mandate stance,  the news want the readers to associate her with anti vax and attribute her death to Covid...Creating a narrative that Eyephone simply falls over.

This trend really is something worth looking into..I am not making this connection... yet but it sure looks strange...

'Huge, huge numbers:' insurance group sees death rates up 40 percent over pre-pandemic levels
Since Feb. 1, 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimate there have been 942,431 excess deaths in the U.S.

As the pandemic enters its second year running, the number of deaths the virus has caused is likely much greater than official numbers indicate, setting a historic record.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explains that excess deaths are associated with COVID-19 directly or indirectly, typically defined as the difference between the observed number of deaths in specific time periods and the expected number of deaths in the same time periods.

Currently, since Feb. 1, 2020, the CDC estimates there have been 942,431 excess deaths in the U.S.

That's a staggering amount, as J Scott Davison, CEO of insurance company OneAmerica, explained during a health care conference organized by the Indiana Chamber of Commerce this week. Davison said that his company is seeing the highest death rates now than he?s ever seen before since he started in the insurance business. 

OneAmerica offers employers across the country group life insurance, which generally covers people 18 to 64-years-old.

Even more alarming is where those death rates are hitting, with Davison saying it?s primarily among working aged people between the ages of 18 and 64 who are covered by OneAmerica's group life policies. The insurance company says that's similar to what the rest of the group life industry is seeing and is consistent with CDC data.
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...ge-numbers-death-rates-up-40-percent-over-pre

 

[akula1488]

CDC: 75% of COVID deaths are with at least 4 Comorbitidies

This is what CDC director is saying today...misinformation? Lol. Directly from CDC....this is getting comical Eyephone and Calbears.

Can I not use CDC because they provide misinformation?
https://www.kusi.com/cdc-director-7...d-in-people-with-at-least-four-comorbidities/

4 Comorbitidies lol. So what's the chance of dying purely due to COVID if you are young and healthy?

 

[CalBears96]

Didnt you say your vaccinated?  ;D

Whatever side of the debate you land on, I think it's super important that we all rely on factual information.

So when CalBears makes the claim that the vaccine helps against Omicron based on only four US cases, I'm going to dispute that, because it's unscientific and anti-statistic.  The part of the WaPo article that I bolded also proves his assertion wrong, which means it was misinformation.  He will no doubt respond to this factual information with his usual classless behavior, but facts are facts.

Likewise, Supreme Court justices are not immune from the facts.  They are making huge decisions for millions of Americans, so when a leading member of the opposition relies on a stat that is 20x exaggerated, it needs to be called out.  Credibility is a huge problem for the Supreme Court right now, and relying on fake statistics is only going to make their credibility sink further.

From the article that you posted:

?My presence here as a triple vaccinated individual by phone? suggested ?vaccines do not appear to be very effective in stopping the spread or transmission,? he said, though he added that vaccines are effective at preventing ?severe consequences.?

Was that not the argument I made?

 

[eyephone]

Comedian Bob Seget died after recent booster shot.
You see how the word game is being played here to make it looks like it is due to the booster? No one knows and I am not claiming it is. But you can always play this game. Like if we can say many people are in the hospital are with Covid, we can say the same thing for people who are in the hospital with recent vaccine shots?

Didnt you say you were vaccinated?

Again..why does that matter Eye?  One can be vaccinated and against Vaccine MANDATES...as Akula seems to be.  Looks like deflection on your part BC you don't like what he is saying...Squirrel!!!.

It does matter. Afraid to answer the question?
You answered the question with no problem. (people know your position and you are not ashamed)

 

[akula1488]

The Washington Post:
Rochelle Walensky inadvertently seeds covid conspiracy theory on Foxhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/10/rochelle-walensky-is-not-good-this/

Now the left leaning Washington Post is critical of CDC and just shy of calling Rochelle a moron.

Calbears: akula is spreading misformation, he is a moron.
Akula: but CDC just admitted they overstated COVID deaths by a lot?
Calbears and left media: CDC director is a moron too.