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I said that previously.
You are not reading again.
Look at the world data of vaccinations vs deaths.
It?s all there in front of you.
What's so hard about posting a screengrab? A screengrab of a chart, a screengrab of a data. Anything? Let me show you an example. Here is what I found about Covid. I screengrabed and posted here so it's super clear and easy to understand. This is as of today Sep. 9th 2021 in case you wonder when this is from.
Total cases - 40.6M
Deaths - 654K
That equals about 1.6%. Which is 98% survival rate.
This is what hard evidence looks like to me. Can you do the same to your argument of more vaxed areas are having less deaths? Or if that's too hard, can you do the comparison of vaxed vs. unvaxed death rates out of covid cases?
EDIT- got the correct % numbers now.
Delta Air Lines to add $200 monthly health insurance charge for unvaccinated staff
https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...surance-charge-unvaccinated-staff-2021-08-25/
United Airlines warns of unpaid leave for staff given religious vaccine exemptions
"We have no greater responsibility to you and your colleagues than to ensure your safety when you're at work, and the facts are crystal clear: everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated," United CEO Scott Kirby and President Brett Hart said to employees in a memo obtained by The Hill last month.
Now United is telling its employees that those who apply for a religious exemption and are denied must get their first shot by Sept. 27 or they will be terminated, CNBC reported. United staffers who are granted medical exemptions will reportedly be placed on temporary medical leave.
https://thehill.com/policy/transpor...nes-warns-of-unpaid-leave-for-staff-given?amp
Delta Airlines: charging extra $200 for unvaccinated employees (just like I predicted)
United CEO says: We have no greater responsibility to you and your colleagues than to ensure your safety when you're at work, and the facts are crystal clear: everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated
Also, at United I guess some will be placed on leave with no pay if they choose not to be vaccinated.
Nothing personal they got a business to run.
ROFLMAO.
1. Yes, I did make a post of delta airlines heath premium increase for unvaccinated employees. To Mety that is not a lot.
Here are guesstimates: $200 x 26 biweekly pay periods = $5,200
Another assumption do they charge extra per person who are not vaccinated in the plan. So for a family of four, you are looking at an extra $20,800.
2. But he did not mentioned or comment regarding United Continental Holdings CEO (ranked 76 on the Forbes list) mention about vaccines for employees.
United CEO says: We have no greater responsibility to you and your colleagues than to ensure your safety when you're at work, and the facts are crystal clear: everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated
https://thehill.com/policy/transpor...nes-warns-of-unpaid-leave-for-staff-given?amp
"Now, if you are a normal sane person, if you heard Dr Anthony Fauci say that the jabs are 95% effective, you would assume that this would mean that one in twenty will still get COVID-19 despite getting vaxxed. The reality, is that this could not be further from the truth.
The way they get these numbers is from their study of 36,593 people. That sounds like a lot, right? So it MUST be legit, right? Hardly.
Out of those 36,593 people in the study, 170 people got COVID-19? eight that were vaccinated and 162 that received the placebo. That means that 99.54% did NOT get COVID-19 during this study.
"Now, let?s break apart these numbers even further. According to the FDA, the study was split 1:1 in those vaxxed vs unvaxxed. When you take the number of those that are vaccinated vs unvaccinated and divide them into how many people were in each group, both the vaxxed and unvaxxed had a more 99% effectiveness. The difference between getting the Jab and not was less than 0.8%."
irvinehomeowner
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Mety said:
I said that previously.
You are not reading again.
Look at the world data of vaccinations vs deaths.
It?s all there in front of you.
When the pandemic started there was no solution. But now there is.
You didnt know? Majority of the covid cases in the icu are from unvaccinated.
Raise the health insurance premiums! I aint paying more because people want to be quote on quote free, but not that free when they tie up the health system resources. No hard feelings its only business.
You didnt know? Majority of the covid cases in the icu are from unvaccinated.
Raise the health insurance premiums! I aint paying more because people want to be quote on quote free, but not that free when they tie up the health system resources. No hard feelings its only business.
irvinehomeowner said:
What's so hard about posting a screengrab? A screengrab of a chart, a screengrab of a data. Anything? Let me show you an example. Here is what I found about Covid. I screengrabed and posted here so it's super clear and easy to understand. This is as of today Sep. 9th 2021 in case you wonder when this is from.
Total cases - 40.6M
Deaths - 654K
That equals about 1.6%. Which is 98% survival rate.
This is what hard evidence looks like to me. Can you do the same to your argument of more vaxed areas are having less deaths? Or if that's too hard, can you do the comparison of vaxed vs. unvaxed death rates out of covid cases?
EDIT- got the correct % numbers now.
Mety said:irvinehomeowner said:
What's so hard about posting a screengrab? A screengrab of a chart, a screengrab of a data. Anything? Let me show you an example. Here is what I found about Covid. I screengrabed and posted here so it's super clear and easy to understand. This is as of today Sep. 9th 2021 in case you wonder when this is from.
Total cases - 40.6M
Deaths - 654K
That equals about 1.6%. Which is 98% survival rate.
This is what hard evidence looks like to me. Can you do the same to your argument of more vaxed areas are having less deaths? Or if that's too hard, can you do the comparison of vaxed vs. unvaxed death rates out of covid cases?
EDIT- got the correct % numbers now.
Delta Air Lines to add $200 monthly health insurance charge for unvaccinated staff
https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...surance-charge-unvaccinated-staff-2021-08-25/
United Airlines warns of unpaid leave for staff given religious vaccine exemptions
"We have no greater responsibility to you and your colleagues than to ensure your safety when you're at work, and the facts are crystal clear: everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated," United CEO Scott Kirby and President Brett Hart said to employees in a memo obtained by The Hill last month.
Now United is telling its employees that those who apply for a religious exemption and are denied must get their first shot by Sept. 27 or they will be terminated, CNBC reported. United staffers who are granted medical exemptions will reportedly be placed on temporary medical leave.
https://thehill.com/policy/transpor...nes-warns-of-unpaid-leave-for-staff-given?amp
Delta Airlines: charging extra $200 for unvaccinated employees (just like I predicted)
United CEO says: We have no greater responsibility to you and your colleagues than to ensure your safety when you're at work, and the facts are crystal clear: everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated
Also, at United I guess some will be placed on leave with no pay if they choose not to be vaccinated.
Nothing personal they got a business to run.
nosuchreality
Well-known member
Mety said:
ROFLMAO.
Mety said:
1. Yes, I did make a post of delta airlines heath premium increase for unvaccinated employees. To Mety that is not a lot.
Here are guesstimates: $200 x 26 biweekly pay periods = $5,200
Another assumption do they charge extra per person who are not vaccinated in the plan. So for a family of four, you are looking at an extra $20,800.
2. But he did not mentioned or comment regarding United Continental Holdings CEO (ranked 76 on the Forbes list) mention about vaccines for employees.
United CEO says: We have no greater responsibility to you and your colleagues than to ensure your safety when you're at work, and the facts are crystal clear: everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated
https://thehill.com/policy/transpor...nes-warns-of-unpaid-leave-for-staff-given?amp
morekaos
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And just who is going to enforce all these new rules and regulations? Is there a shadow force set up to bend the will of those that rebel? Commissar!!
https://youtu.be/JWENGFKQaL0
https://youtu.be/JWENGFKQaL0
zubs
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Look at the daily deaths from COVID 19 as of 09.09.2021
CALIFORNIA
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+19+daily+deaths&oq=covid+19+daily+deaths&aqs=chrome.0.0i457i512j0i512l9.7809j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
The 7 day moving average for COVID 19 deaths is 106
FLORIDA
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+19+daily+deaths&oq=covid+19+daily+deaths&aqs=chrome.0.0i457i512j0i512l9.7809j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
The 7 day moving average for COVID 19 deaths is 338
I wonder what's going on with FL....hmmm..
CA has more people too!!
CALIFORNIA
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+19+daily+deaths&oq=covid+19+daily+deaths&aqs=chrome.0.0i457i512j0i512l9.7809j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
The 7 day moving average for COVID 19 deaths is 106
FLORIDA
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+19+daily+deaths&oq=covid+19+daily+deaths&aqs=chrome.0.0i457i512j0i512l9.7809j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
The 7 day moving average for COVID 19 deaths is 338
I wonder what's going on with FL....hmmm..
CA has more people too!!
morekaos
Well-known member
This is what I mean by making the stats dance...its all in how you look at it. Its all in what you want it to say...I tend to not believe any of it from both sides.
The Evidence Cited by the CDC Does Not Show That Vaccinated and Unvaccinated COVID-19 Carriers Are Equally Likely To Transmit the Virus
That conclusion is not justified by the CDC's Provincetown data, and it is inconsistent with a new study from Singapore.
https://reason.com/2021/08/04/the-evidence-cited-by-the-cdc-does-not-show-that-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-covid-19-carriers-are-equally-likely-to-transmit-the-virus/
FDA Confirms Both Vaxxed and Unvaxxed Have 99% Chance of Not Getting COVID-19
The mainstream media has been harping on the claim that the COVID-19 vaccine is 95% effective. Most, however, do not understand what that means. The most shocking aspect of the study the FDA cites in its approval letter of the Comirnaty mRNA Vaccine from Pfizer-BioNTech is that more than 99% of both the vaccinated and unvaccinated did not get COVID-19. This is why it?s important to understand the data and read past the headlines.
[url]https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/09/fda-confirms-both-vaxxed-and-unvaxxed-have-99-chance-of-not-getting-covid-19[/url]
The Evidence Cited by the CDC Does Not Show That Vaccinated and Unvaccinated COVID-19 Carriers Are Equally Likely To Transmit the Virus
That conclusion is not justified by the CDC's Provincetown data, and it is inconsistent with a new study from Singapore.
https://reason.com/2021/08/04/the-evidence-cited-by-the-cdc-does-not-show-that-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-covid-19-carriers-are-equally-likely-to-transmit-the-virus/
FDA Confirms Both Vaxxed and Unvaxxed Have 99% Chance of Not Getting COVID-19
The mainstream media has been harping on the claim that the COVID-19 vaccine is 95% effective. Most, however, do not understand what that means. The most shocking aspect of the study the FDA cites in its approval letter of the Comirnaty mRNA Vaccine from Pfizer-BioNTech is that more than 99% of both the vaccinated and unvaccinated did not get COVID-19. This is why it?s important to understand the data and read past the headlines.
[url]https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/09/fda-confirms-both-vaxxed-and-unvaxxed-have-99-chance-of-not-getting-covid-19[/url]
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
Do you even read what you post or just copy/paste headlines? Your link has no back up on that 99% FDA claim that I can see.
morekaos
Well-known member
irvinehomeowner said:
"Now, if you are a normal sane person, if you heard Dr Anthony Fauci say that the jabs are 95% effective, you would assume that this would mean that one in twenty will still get COVID-19 despite getting vaxxed. The reality, is that this could not be further from the truth.
The way they get these numbers is from their study of 36,593 people. That sounds like a lot, right? So it MUST be legit, right? Hardly.
Out of those 36,593 people in the study, 170 people got COVID-19? eight that were vaccinated and 162 that received the placebo. That means that 99.54% did NOT get COVID-19 during this study.
"Now, let?s break apart these numbers even further. According to the FDA, the study was split 1:1 in those vaxxed vs unvaxxed. When you take the number of those that are vaccinated vs unvaccinated and divide them into how many people were in each group, both the vaxxed and unvaxxed had a more 99% effectiveness. The difference between getting the Jab and not was less than 0.8%."