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morekaos said:
For once we agree.  China and to a great degree American politicians and press strived to downplay and cover up the Lab origin story.  Now they are falling over themselves to affirm it.  What is the public to think?  Yet another instance that further erodes trust in those very same institutions and people...and you wonder why so many question the current narrative?

Media Tripping Over Themselves to Reverse Position On COVID Lab Leak Theory

After more than a year in which left-wing media outlets, Democrat politicians, and Dr. Anthony Fauci insisted that the claim by former President Trump that the virus likely emerged from a Chinese lab was nothing more than a ?debunked conspiracy theory,? those who mocked the notion are now shamelessly backpedaling while nonetheless refusing to admit their role in misleading the public.

The so-called ?lab leak? hypothesis suggests that the virus escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). The WIV is the only Biosafety Level-4 lab in China ? which means it is certified to handle the most dangerous biological specimens. The lab happens to be located just miles from the ?wet market? where Chinese authorities have maintained the virus originated. Trump?s suggestion?one he first made in April of 2020?was not without basis. For one thing, Chinese labs have a history of safety breaches; a SARS outbreak in Beijing in 2004 was eventually traced back to another Chinese lab.

Despite the early evidence, the media slandered former President Trump, Republican lawmakers, and independent-minded journalists and scientists as conspiracy theorists. When Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) raised the possibility that the virus could have been created in a lab, The New York Times accused him of spreading a ?rumor? and ?repeating a fringe theory.? The Washington Post also called the theory ?debunked.? Dr. Fauci said that the scientific evidence ?is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated.? Even the World Health Organization (WHO), which has served as a propaganda arm for the Chinese Communist Party from day one of the pandemic, said it was ?extremely unlikely? the virus escaped from a lab.

As late as March 31 of this year, CNN published a headline describing the lab leak theory as ?something out of a comic book.? During the 2020 election cycle, mainstream media outlets and Congressional Democrats repeatedly labeled former President Trump and his Republican allies as racist and ?anti-science? for pursuing an investigation into the origins of COVID-19.

https://amac.us/media-tripping-over-themselves-to-reverse-position-on-covid-lab-leak-theory/

The covid lab leak theory doesnt change anything. The fact is one party is making it political.
What I see now. People that live in the red states are fighting back against their government. Some are demanding masks in school. Some school administrators are risking their pay to have masks in school. 
 
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
Love Corona but don?t fly delta cause they suck.  Seriously, how do you explain the clear disparity of the demographics?  Why are certain ethnic groups shunning the vaccine?  Is it political or social? Those are the real challenges if you believe in vaccinations of the entire populous, not what influence Trump or Graham have.

You are blaming demographics now? You are comical.
Instead of saying get the vaccine like Graham.
You are far reaching.
#5ghotspot

..again...completely missing the point.  The demographics are not to blame but they tell you something important.  Ask why do the demographics look that way? not the other way around. 
 
morekaos said:
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
Love Corona but don?t fly delta cause they suck.  Seriously, how do you explain the clear disparity of the demographics?  Why are certain ethnic groups shunning the vaccine?  Is it political or social? Those are the real challenges if you believe in vaccinations of the entire populous, not what influence Trump or Graham have.

You are blaming demographics now? You are comical.
Instead of saying get the vaccine like Graham.
You are far reaching.
#5ghotspot

..again...completely missing the point.  The demographics are not to blame but they tell you something important.  Ask why do the demographics look that way? not the other way around. 

Not that many people trust your source on TI. (Not just me)
Many people in red states are not minorities.
 
Peel away the states...those numbers are national so there is no state bias.  Nationally, minorities are by far rejecting or delaying vaccinations...why is that?  It can't really be political because (and I think you'll agree) most of those minorities are Democrat's. That is where you need to concentrate outreach if your goal is to vaccinate everyone.
 
Peel away the states? But the numbers are in the states. Again you think I am dumb? There are not that many minorities in red states. You dumb fu5
 
eyephone said:
Peel away the states? But the numbers are in the states. Again you think I am dumb? There are not that many minorities in red states. You dumb fu5

Well...thats a pretty dumb statement... ;D ;D ;D >:D
 
Just because I do not know if people would need a booster shot? How the fu5 would I know? I dont think the vaccine manufacturers made a comment about this.
4wierd
 
My question was "how long the vaccine is effective?" If you're getting it inside your body to protect yourself, wouldn't you at least need to know how long it'll protect you so that you can get another one when it's faded? Now I want some boba. 
 
Mety said:
My question was "how long the vaccine is effective?" If you're getting it inside your body to protect yourself, wouldn't you at least need to know how long it'll protect you so that you can get another one when it's faded? Now I want some boba.

Again. Another question that I do not know how long it last. Because they have not released any information.

 
Mety said:
CogNeuroSci said:
"Controlling system" is a phrase that gives away your position. Plus, I've read some of your other recent posts.

People with science backgrounds can't even help a Harvard Law School grad to understand the simplest science concepts.

Whether you accept or not, we?re already under controlled systems. You need your Driver?s license to drive your vehicle. You need your passport to travel. You are given a number to identify yourself, called a social security. All these are controlled systems and they were intended to be good and bring orders to the society. You can?t steal. You can?t kill. You are controlled by the law to pay the consequences if you break. Certain levels of controlled systems actually are good for us humans.

Now if that simplest science concept leads people to say only vaccinated people can go to the grocery store, then that concept says unvaccinated people can starve to death. Is this really a good intended system we can accept? Everything is at freewill. With all these controlled systems, you still have to make your own decision. You can still kill someone as long as you pay with your own life. Are we starting to see unvaccinated people as someone who kills now?

You and people like you refuse to understand the real issue. And so we experience yet another surge. The surges will continue because mutations do not stop and because so many refuse to get vaccinated. Loss of all kinds of individual wellness will continue rather than a return to normal life.

You cite individual freedom but you don't cite when individual freedom stops: when it negatively affects the physical health of others. You do not trust the science not because it's untrustable but because you don't understand it. You connect scientific media announcements to the government that you don't trust. You are one of the millions of purveyors of the politicization of COVID. You and others like you are smug and arrogant when you peel back the topic to merely an issue of individual freedom. The real issue is even simpler than that and preempts that.

Dumb is dumb but doesn't know it.
 
Mety said:
My question was "how long the vaccine is effective?" If you're getting it inside your body to protect yourself, wouldn't you at least need to know how long it'll protect you so that you can get another one when it's faded? Now I want some boba.

One of the dumbest statements I've heard. But not an original one from poster.

Let me modify and say more. Notice how people who make these kinds of statements seem to have trumped any kind of a come-backer? Accordingly, see how smug these kinds of statements are? They are simply, merely wrong.

And let me apologize to "all statements" out there. In an ode to ESPN's Chris Berman, let me correct my initial statement with deference to the current debate. There are no dumb statements. There are only dumb people who make statements.
 
@CogNeuroSci,

You keep saying this is dumb, that's dumb, yet you don't explain the core of it. You just sound like eyephone calling people out of nowhere assuming massively wrong. You just use a bit more refined english grammar and literature skills than him.

Of course, you might just say because I or people like me don't get it that you don't need to explain. Or you might say you already have. Carry on.
 
CogNeuroSci said:
Mety said:
My question was "how long the vaccine is effective?" If you're getting it inside your body to protect yourself, wouldn't you at least need to know how long it'll protect you so that you can get another one when it's faded? Now I want some boba.

One of the dumbest statements I've heard. But not an original one from poster.

Crushing a genuine question? Let me guess. Because YOU are the one of purveyors of the politicization of COVID. You probably think I'm some kind of an old white male hardcore Republican Trump supporter who refuses to get vaccinated. Even if you don't, you keep pointing out what you don't agree yet fails to state your position with reasons. All I hear from you is a word science. Oh BTW, I believe and support science. Surprised?
 
eyephone said:
Mety said:
My question was "how long the vaccine is effective?" If you're getting it inside your body to protect yourself, wouldn't you at least need to know how long it'll protect you so that you can get another one when it's faded? Now I want some boba.

Again. Another question that I do not know how long it last. Because they have not released any information.

Ok. So you don't know. Thanks for your answer instead of replying and saying "One of the dumbest statements."
 
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