Columbus Grove - Buyer Beware

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<p>This is from the DMV:</p>

<p>22500No person shall stop, park, or leave standing any vehicle whether attended or unattended, except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic or in compliance with the directions of a peace officer or official traffic control device, in any of the following places: </p>

<p>(f) On any portion of a sidewalk, or with the body of the vehicle extending over any portion of a sidewalk</p>

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<p>Here you go. Sue them. Looks like the law was changed. You must have a written signature from the HOA for EACH violation</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ocsmallclaims.com/ContentDetail.aspx?Id=10&ContentTypeId=1&CategoryId=11">http://www.ocsmallclaims.com/ContentDetail.aspx?Id=10&ContentTypeId=1&CategoryId=11</a></p>

<p>Sounds like 4 times the towing charges in your favor. Google Orange County Towing Laws. Looks like several Legal Firms will jump in and help you slam the HOA. This alone tells me this behavior is no longer legal. The key element is that you are on private property. And the HOA must have a written notice for EACH violation signed by a HOA authorized person. </p>

<p>Keep us posted. </p>

<p>And never mind the trolls here that want you to hang for having your car a foot into the sidewalk.</p>

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i do think it is pretty harsh to tow someone's car under this circumstance without first given any warnings.



I actually wish Woodbury inforce parking rules a lot more strict, and I am so sick of people not parking their car in their garage, or even worse park in front of other people's house while leaving their own drive way empty.



I think we should give people up to three warnings total. However, after three warning, the car should be towed if within the CC&R rules.
 
asianinvasian: Yes it does say that you can't block the sidewalk, but where does it say that the vehicle can be towed away? There are lengthy codes stating why and how the car may be towed, and all of the reasons. Blocking a sidewalk is not in any of them.



bltserv: I was told that Patrol One is an authorized agent of the HOA, and therefore the rent a cop's signature is the same as an HOA signature. Patrol One was present, I saw their car next to the tow truck from upstairs. Unfortunately they were gone 20 seconds later when I got downstairs.
 
bltserv - the sidewalk is "owned" by the HOA so if Patrol One was there, acting as the HOA's agent, then the car was likely towed with a signature and owner presence. The legal requirements in those regards were likely met. Nice reference though...
 
Thank you for your support everyone.



The meeting is this Wednesday at 5:30, I hope I can rally enough fellow homeowners to voice their opinions on this harsh enforcement.
 
NewVOC,


Go door to door to get some support and signatures. Our HOA wanted to hire Patrol One and institute similar rules a few years ago. Word spread about what the implications would be and a large group of owners attended the meeting. The board realized that the majority of homeowners were against such a policy and Patrol One was not hired.
 
In the County of Orange and City of Irvine. A legal driveway is 18' or more from the face of garage door to the back of sidewalk. No driveway shall be between 8' and 18' for the reason that homeowners will sneak his car and the tail will hang over the sidewalk which could block access for the disables who must travel on the level sidewalk. When the handicap has the go around the the illegally parked car the driveway is too steep of a gradient for his wheel chair to negotiate and his wheel chair could turn over on its side and he would potentially be on the street at the path of vehicular traffic. Driveway could be less than 8' so it is very obvious that no one should be able to park.
 
<p>You know who should be towed? Those cheap a$$ whom wash their vehicles outside their townhome/condos garage. In doing so, they block the right of way of their neighbors to get in and out of their garages. And this is done on a weekly basis. </p>

<p>Honestly, is the cost of living so high that you can't afford a $10 car wash? Or even a $4 car wash at the local gas station?</p>
 
reason--I agree with you that people shouldn't be blocking garages or fire lanes for that matter, it is a safety and courtesy issue.



Just wondering though, almost all the IAC places I know do NOT allow you to wash your own car on the property, why is that? I know there is demand out there, yet they do not build special areas for this purpose. All they need to do is have 1 or 2 stalls available with good drainage and one hose. I'm not sure if it is a liability issue (i.e. slip and fall) or maybe cosmetic issue (i.e. looks bad with soap & water on ground) or environmental (don't waste the water).
 
<p>IACRenter, I heard it's because of the soap going into the drainage which ultimately ends up in the ocean. Evironmental issue. Not sure if it's true or not - it's just what I heard.</p>
 
That's what I heard also. Environmental. Ok, ok. I am not that anal. But there's a particular neighbor. He not only washes his vehicle. But takes apart the front headlights and clean them! Not kidding. Then he would leave his freaking vehicle to air dry for half the day!
 
I say watch the PatrolOne car, and as soon as you get your chance, when they park their car illegally, have them towed.





Oh... it must be late, I will shut up before I recommend other evil ways of messing with PatrolOne.





BTW, the owner of Tows R Us, is filthy freakin rich. There is a reason why he is the number 1 tow guy in OC.





Man... I thought the mello roos were evil there, then you have evil HOAs on top of it...
 
I've noticed sometimes they will be back almost every night...then other times I won't see them out for weeks at a time. Perhaps they are busy towing cars in other neighborhoods?
 
<p>There are a bunch of tow companies right by VoC on Construction Circle - Irvine Tow, West Coast Towing, Irvine Mesa Towing, etc. Don't they have impound lots?</p>
 
My guess is that the patrol guard has something on the side with the towing company that motivates him to call it in. Actually, this is probably not a call in. Chances are that the tow truck is parked somewhere within the community, and runs over in matter of seconds when the guard calls them. It's obviously to their benefit to tow, so they probably throw a few bucks over to the guard for each tow. This was apparently a common practice in L.A. several years back, and so supposedly the laws were changed to prevent this.
 
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