eyephone said:Enough with I had a friend stories. If it wasn't YOU, don't talk about it.
Paris said:eyephone said:Enough with I had a friend stories. If it wasn't YOU, don't talk about it.
What does that matter, it's a personal friend. The whole point is that you do not have to be a science major (IVy league or not) to complete premed courses, take the MCAT and gain admission into medical school. And certain majors are easier to get into than others - chemistry vs anthropologie
YOU may not find that information useful but there are some here that would
eyephone said:Enough with I had a friend stories. If it wasn't YOU, don't talk about it.
Irvine Dream said:eyephone said:Enough with I had a friend stories. If it wasn't YOU, don't talk about it.
If we can only talk about our personal experiences then how do we learn from experience from others or something we have researched (or how do we propagate rumors and keeps this forum interesting?)
Any way, based on discussions with a pre-med student in a top 20 University, current prevalent thought seems to be "don't do a difficult science major if you want to get in to a good medical school". The GPA seems to play a significant role (difficult to get a high GPA in science majors) and some schools (including "Brown" ) seems to be actively looking to admit non-science majors to their medical program.
bones said:Irvine Dream said:eyephone said:Enough with I had a friend stories. If it wasn't YOU, don't talk about it.
If we can only talk about our personal experiences then how do we learn from experience from others or something we have researched (or how do we propagate rumors and keeps this forum interesting?)
Any way, based on discussions with a pre-med student in a top 20 University, current prevalent thought seems to be "don't do a difficult science major if you want to get in to a good medical school". The GPA seems to play a significant role (difficult to get a high GPA in science majors) and some schools (including "Brown" ) seems to be actively looking to admit non-science majors to their medical program.
Yea sure. You can major in whatever you want and apply to med school as long as you fulfill the science requirements. But let's not use the examples of "I majored in anthropology at Yale and got into harvard med" as the example. Try doing that at uc Merced or cal state Fullerton.
Paris said:Bones it does not matter. Sure Ivy league has it's own advantages in any field. But medical school is very strategic, it's based on GPA, MCAT, interview, research and then whatever extracurriculars. GPA and MCAT weed you out for interview. Yes Calstate Fullerton is different from Stanford but a 3.0 GPA at stanford w/ 28MCAT vs a 3.9 GPA with 36MCAT at cal state fulleton - you bet they will take the cal state fullerton student. I speak from personal experience here because I went to medical school, I know all about that process.
bones said:Paris said:Bones it does not matter. Sure Ivy league has it's own advantages in any field. But medical school is very strategic, it's based on GPA, MCAT, interview, research and then whatever extracurriculars. GPA and MCAT weed you out for interview. Yes Calstate Fullerton is different from Stanford but a 3.0 GPA at stanford w/ 28MCAT vs a 3.9 GPA with 36MCAT at cal state fulleton - you bet they will take the cal state fullerton student. I speak from personal experience here because I went to medical school, I know all about that process.
You basically just proved my point with your 2nd sentence. I'm not disagreeing with your overall "you don't need a science major to get into med school" philosophy. All I'm saying is let's not use the Ivy leaguer as the example of how to do it. If my kid was a student at CSUF looking to go into medicine, I certainly wouldn't point to Paris' friend who majored at anthropology at Yale and got into Harvard Med as the model to follow. Sure, lots of other factors and I know med schools actively target non-science majors, but for example, how can a CSUF student get the important research opportunities if he/she isn't even in the major. He/she may but it's just an uphill battle to climb from the start.
As for your Stanford/CSUF example, well they're two different students so I'm not sure how to even comment. But I'm pretty sure if the stats are 3.9 GPA/36 MCAT/Anthro major for both the Stanford student and the CSUF student, the Stanford student will def get more med school accepts at higher ranked schools.
Paris said:bones said:Paris said:Bones it does not matter. Sure Ivy league has it's own advantages in any field. But medical school is very strategic, it's based on GPA, MCAT, interview, research and then whatever extracurriculars. GPA and MCAT weed you out for interview. Yes Calstate Fullerton is different from Stanford but a 3.0 GPA at stanford w/ 28MCAT vs a 3.9 GPA with 36MCAT at cal state fulleton - you bet they will take the cal state fullerton student. I speak from personal experience here because I went to medical school, I know all about that process.
You basically just proved my point with your 2nd sentence. I'm not disagreeing with your overall "you don't need a science major to get into med school" philosophy. All I'm saying is let's not use the Ivy leaguer as the example of how to do it. If my kid was a student at CSUF looking to go into medicine, I certainly wouldn't point to Paris' friend who majored at anthropology at Yale and got into Harvard Med as the model to follow. Sure, lots of other factors and I know med schools actively target non-science majors, but for example, how can a CSUF student get the important research opportunities if he/she isn't even in the major. He/she may but it's just an uphill battle to climb from the start.
As for your Stanford/CSUF example, well they're two different students so I'm not sure how to even comment. But I'm pretty sure if the stats are 3.9 GPA/36 MCAT/Anthro major for both the Stanford student and the CSUF student, the Stanford student will def get more med school accepts at higher ranked schools.
Many stuents are very discouraged if they don't get into a top school for undergrad but you don't need that type of stringent path. Several of my physician colleagues come from all types of different paths from harvard, yale to small art colleges and they all ended up at the same place - practicing as physicians. It is a myth to think that if you aren't at a top tier school or "science" major you cannot get into medical school. And I also had some med school colleagues that chose medicine as a second career and still got into medical school.
And most universities absolutely have research opportunities. My cousin is a pHD at Cal state Fulelrton, trained at Cornell for her pHD and doing some amazing research there. And she's got research assistants interested in her field of science and no she does not only take "science" majors to do research with her. Any students interested in premed (despite their major) would be taking her Ochem classes and would have equal opportunity to be a part of her research.
Of course IV leagues and amazing GPAs and MCATs will hit the ball out of the park - that is relevant for any major within those colleges. But for the average person - it is absolutely possible and has been done countless times.
And BTW being a part of the medical school admissions commitee we don't always look just at GPA/ MCAT - like I said it's a weeding out process but if you can't interview well or don't have "real world" experience beyond just "research" you are not going to cut it. The average medical school gets 7,000-10,000 applications every year for just about 100-125 spots.
Paris said:And BTW being a part of the medical school admissions commitee we don't always look just
bones said:Paris said:I had a friend who was an anthropologie major at Yale, did all her premed requirement AS an anthropologie major and got into pretty much every medical school she applied to - Yale, Harvard, Hopkins, Princeton. You do not have to limit yourself to the "science" majors.
The key part of the story here is that she went to Yale. Harder to do that at non-top schools.
eyephone said:Enough with I had a friend stories. If it wasn't YOU, don't talk about it.
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GH said:qwerty said:more dentists need to look like this
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What good will it do if you can't have it? You Enjoy torture?The California Court Company said:I am going to switch to Dr. Najaran for my next appointment. hopefully her patient list is not full.
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qwerty said:Ooh bones and Paris going at it. Get the white tshirts ready! I'll bring the water and oil!
Ps - I do have physical gifts, 37 so not quite rich :-(
FARMMMMMIE said:qwerty said:Ooh bones and Paris going at it. Get the white tshirts ready! I'll bring the water and oil!
Ps - I do have physical gifts, 37 so not quite rich :-(
you're 37?? old fart!! hahahahaha.
qwerty said:FARMMMMMIE said:qwerty said:Ooh bones and Paris going at it. Get the white tshirts ready! I'll bring the water and oil!
Ps - I do have physical gifts, 37 so not quite rich :-(
you're 37?? old fart!! hahahahaha.
hey im a young 37 :-(