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that's right. it is kind of what I was referring to. if you are in the health care business and your job function is to make people look better, you will make the most $ compared to your peers.

lnc said:
qwerty said:
how much does a dentist make? 350/day is 91K per year. I figured dentists made very high 100's or low 200's.

New grad, fresh out of dental school general dentist working for a dental corporation or as an associate are probably starting around $400-$450 a day in LA area, just a little over $100k/year.  Salary varies by region but LA area probably is the lowest in the nation.

Seasoned general dentist own their own practice average around $200k/year.

Orthodontist has the highest salary among dentists.  Average around $350k/year.

Other specialist fall somewhat in between these figure but Oral Surgeon that does a lot of dental implants can easily top over $350k/year.
 
Coleman said:
Anyone have true figures from starting pay for DDS and General Physicians and some "mid career" figures?

I know no doctors so I can't really ask anyone.  Also, the salary websites don't seem so authentic. 

Kaiser should pay pretty well. The Pharm. D people are making over $150k from early on.


I like how this article has pay increase from base pay to mid career level.  There are careers that start at a competitive rate, but literally have very little growth throughout the person's tenure in the grand scheme of things.

It is all very variable. General practitioners on average make around $150k to $180k but also depends on where they work, is it their own practice vs working for an HMO varies. There are also doctors privately contracted to work at places like Hoag. It also varies by state and city.  Specialists will generally make $200k or more which is a general rule.

Through the years I have started to realize that the people most successful and "happy" in life are those that followed their passions and love what they do because they're good at it. Because I sure know a lot of miserable doctors who went into the field only for the $.

My goal is to help my kids realize their passions in life and then help them figure out a way to make $$ with it. College is overrated...
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Not sure the wife will like cleaning out other people's teeth.

Any other suggestions that aren't qwersexual?

Qwersexual? Really? When I gave patients prophy treatment, I doubt they thought of it in a sexual way... I know I didn't. ?_?
 
my sister in law just graduated from pharmacy school and she was making $120K working at walgreens or target, cant remember which one, then she realized she didnt like it and enjoyed working with patients vs being a pill pusher (is what she called it) and switch jobs, makes about the same but works with patients now in hospital settings.
 
I'm a leisure oriented person so when I advise youngsters what they should do for a living, how little you need to work is as important to me as how much you make.

I always advise to be a dentist or optometrist.  My dentist and optometrist friends make decent bucks and they only work three or four days a week!  Law, investment banking, etc. pays a lot but I always tell kids to avoid those careers because of the hours involved. 
 
If you have a daughter that you want to find a good boy friend in college, have her major in engineering.  She will have all the attention and no competition.
 
Happiness said:
I always advise to be a dentist or optometrist.  My dentist and optometrist friends make decent bucks and they only work three or four days a week!

Funny, I was just about to say the exact opposite regarding being a dentist. They have the highest suicide rate of any profession. (I'll try to find a link later if I get a chance.) I can totally see why that is. I trained for and worked in the dental field... dentists are notoriously difficult & stressed-out people. I've seen some really crazy stuff with doctors including the ones I worked with. One time, a dentist I had just met for the first time (an elderly Asian man), began quizzing me while we were working on a patient. He asked if I was planning to become a dentist. I said I didn't know yet -- maybe. He said, "NO. DON'T DO IT. It's the worst job. I regret it every day of my life. Please. Don't. Don't do it. Do anything else except be a dentist." I couldn't believe he said this in front of a patient. I've also worked on the lab side at the largest dental lab in the world (Glidewell Laboratories, for any of you dentists reading this), interacting with dentists from all over. I would say generally speaking, they are moody, unhappy, & irritable people. I've seen one throw chairs. I've seen one have a mental breakdown then demand everyone in the office attend therapy sessions with her on their off-the-clock hours. Dentist would be bottom of my list.  :)
 
Happiness said:
If you have a daughter that you want to find a good boy friend in college, have her major in engineering.  She will have all the attention and no competition.

What type of advice is this?

#goldd#*%#%
 
eyephone said:
Happiness said:
If you have a daughter that you want to find a good boy friend in college, have her major in engineering.  She will have all the attention and no competition.

What type of advice is this?

#goldd#*%#%

You don't suppose people who send their daughters to expensive exclusive private universities and pay for her to be in an expensive sorority don't somewhere in the back of their minds hope they will land a well off son in law?
 
more dentists need to look like this

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eyephone said:
Happiness said:
If you have a daughter that you want to find a good boy friend in college, have her major in engineering.  She will have all the attention and no competition.

What type of advice is this?

#goldd#*%#%

Are you kidding? I call it great advice! "Happiness" is right, imo. Besides financial, the other advantage is that because there are so few women in some of these fields, that translates into less chance of office romances once they are done with school. No wandering eyes. The wife doesn't have much to worry about there. But the best part I find is that the personality types which end up as software engineers & the like are usually very nice, genuine, smart, stable guys with a good head on their shoulders. Simply put: They won't screw around on you. They will appreciate you and treat you great. Good husband material. I'm speaking from experience. Great decision. I wish I realized it more in high school. #NerdsRule

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Socal - as the great Chris rock has said, a man is only as faithful as his options. A man is like a lion, not meant to be married. Although I do have a friend like your husband, a genuinely nice guy who won't cheat on his wife
 
so the bat has not been faithful? no one can hardly blame you. the size is both a curse and a blessing?

qwerty said:
Socal - as the great Chris rock has said, a man is only as faithful as his options. A man is like a lion, not meant to be married. Although I do have a friend like your husband, a genuinely nice guy who won't cheat on his wife
 
qwerty said:
Socal - as the great Chris rock has said, a man is only as faithful as his options. A man is like a lion, not meant to be married. Although I do have a friend like your husband, a genuinely nice guy who won't cheat on his wife

Well, that's what I'm saying. They don't have any options when they work in a male-dominated field.  :D
 
SoCal said:
qwerty said:
Socal - as the great Chris rock has said, a man is only as faithful as his options. A man is like a lion, not meant to be married. Although I do have a friend like your husband, a genuinely nice guy who won't cheat on his wife

Well, that's what I'm saying. They don't have any options when they work in a male-dominated field.  :D

Tell me about it. We have a ton of engineers which means a lack of eye candy at our company.
 
SoCal said:
eyephone said:
Happiness said:
If you have a daughter that you want to find a good boy friend in college, have her major in engineering.  She will have all the attention and no competition.

What type of advice is this?

#goldd#*%#%

Are you kidding? I call it great advice! "Happiness" is right, imo. Besides financial, the other advantage is that because there are so few women in some of these fields, that translates into less chance of office romances once they are done with school. No wandering eyes. The wife doesn't have much to worry about there. But the best part I find is that the personality types which end up as software engineers & the like are usually very nice, genuine, smart, stable guys with a good head on their shoulders. Simply put: They won't screw around on you. They will appreciate you and treat you great. Good husband material. I'm speaking from experience. Great decision. I wish I realized it more in high school. #NerdsRule

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Okay - stay home. Let's say tomorrow you get a divorce. Do you have the skills/experience to support your family? (Assuming you have a kid?) or will you go gold%%*^ 2.0 and find another person to support you? #justasking
 
eyephone said:
Okay - stay home. Let's say tomorrow you get a divorce. Do you have the skills/experience to support your family? (Assuming you have a kid?) or will you go gold%%*^ 2.0 and find another person to support you? #justasking

Um. The advice was to go to engineering school. So, there is your skill set.

Happiness said:
have her major in engineering
 
@Paris - Thanks!  I was wondering about OC doctors.

I talked to the wife of a radiologist years ago and she said that her husband's med school classmates were making about twice her husband's salary while living in Texas. 

@QWERTY - I once had a dentist who was WAY more attractive than the one posted.  Think about an attractive fashion blogger who actually has her DDS! (Think it was from USC too) FARMIE probably runs in the same circles as her. 

LA Times article about women leaving the tech field in droves.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-women-tech-20150222-story.html#page=1

Regarding Investment Banking - Let's say one makes $300k/yr on average of the course of a 10 year career.  That grosses $3,000,000. 

That is the same gross income of a 30 year career that averages out to $100k/yr. 

Would you want to exit school at 21, work your tail off until you are in your early 30s while maintaining a lifestyle of one who makes far less than $300k/yr and then get a "career" that makes you warm and bubbly inside with a large bank account as a support cushion without the burden of "struggling" to make ends meet?

I'd always tell people, if you want to join a band - get a good job that will allow you to buy all the guitars you want.  At the end of the day if the band fails, you have a job and a skill set to fall back on.

What's the fall back in case your band that you put so much into doesn't work out?
 
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