College majors for my kids

[yaliu07]

pharmacists make relatively big bucks compared to what they have to invest

DONT DO IT.  Rumors that in couple year computer will replace all pharmacists...  after all, all they do is count pill...

one last thing, it is impossible to find a pharmacists position in California.... 

 

[Coleman]

pharmacists make relatively big bucks compared to what they have to invest

DONT DO IT.  Rumors that in couple year computer will replace all pharmacists...  after all, all they do is count pill...

That's what I used to think ... Pharmacists on average probably count pills and read labels for the normal people like me, however, when they need their skill set, it's very important such as multiple medicines in the old folks.
one last thing, it is impossible to find a pharmacists position in California....

 

[homer_simpson]

Dentist's starting salaries are around $80k.  With a few years experience it jumps to $140k+ Unless you open your own practice.

Optometrist's starting salaries are around $90k and they cap out at $125k if you go corporate.  Private practices generally pay you a bit more but you have to piece days together for a full time gig.

Primary care physicians start around $120k-$140k.  Depending of they start their own practice or join a group they usually pull in around $140-$160k mid career.

Emergency Room Physicians start around $195k-$215k.  After a few years they make around $250k and top out at $290k depending on seniority and affiliation.

Specialiasts such as OBs, Peds, rheuma etc are all over the place.

If I could choose a career in medicine it would be emergency medicine or anesthesiology. 

I-Banker Analyst entry level salary are $85k-120k.  $25-$100k signing bonus and the bonuses you get after.  Few years as an associate and they'll clear $200k a year + bonus.  Then Managing Directors make $250-$450k a year + bonus.

If you want a career where you can stay home, DBAs, Coders are always in demand and flexible with work.

 

[socal78]

Heh. I just realized nobody has mentioned Realtor. 

 

[bones]

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If I could choose a career in medicine it would be emergency medicine or anesthesiology.

For me, it would be derm.  Cush. Good pay.

 

[lnc]

Maybe I should have asked should kids major in engineering or engineering, assuming they can't get into med school or law school?    I already knew what I'm pushing my kids into before seeing this article...Computer Science. 

Just in case your kid or other's developed an interest in the health care field, here are some of my thought.

Major in one of pre-med majors like biology, chemistry or biochem can provide a lots of options, they can lead them into medicine, dentistry, pharmacy or optometry.  All these professional school require 4 year of graduate school but with almost identical undergraduate requirement.  So the undergrad can sort of wait until end of sophomore year to make the ultimate final decision regarding their career path as long as they are in one of these majors or as long as they take all the necessary prerequisite course.

Also if they change their mind, lost their interest about one particular field, or did not have the grade for it, they can always chose one of the others.  If they can't make it to medical school, than go for dental school.  If they don't like dentistry, than there is pharmacy or optometry.  There's a joke about student who can quite make it to medical school, they are call dental student.

Interestingly, the competitiveness of these professional degree also correspond to their earning potential.  Medicine>dentistry>pharmacy>optometry.  There are pro and con with each profession but that for each individual to figure it out.

Here's a great forum for those future student doctors.  Its a great place for those in high school and undergrad to discuss various aspect of these professional school. By reading their discussion, it also provide a glance of what's like in the professional school.http://www.studentdoctor.net/

 

[lnc]

If you have a daughter that you want to find a good boy friend in college, have her major in engineering.  She will have all the attention and no competition.

What type of advice is this?

#goldd#*%#%

You don't suppose people who send their daughters to expensive exclusive private universities and pay for her to be in an expensive sorority don't somewhere in the back of their minds hope they will land a well off son in law?

Here's a good advice

 

[socal78]

For me, it would be derm.  Cush. Good pay.

Those boils, though. I. Just. Can't.

 

[qwerty]

Dentist's starting salaries are around $80k.  With a few years experience it jumps to $140k+ Unless you open your own practice.

Optometrist's starting salaries are around $90k and they cap out at $125k if you go corporate.  Private practices generally pay you a bit more but you have to piece days together for a full time gig.

Primary care physicians start around $120k-$140k.  Depending of they start their own practice or join a group they usually pull in around $140-$160k mid career.

Emergency Room Physicians start around $195k-$215k.  After a few years they make around $250k and top out at $290k depending on seniority and affiliation.

Specialiasts such as OBs, Peds, rheuma etc are all over the place.

If I could choose a career in medicine it would be emergency medicine or anesthesiology. 

I-Banker Analyst entry level salary are $85k-120k.  $25-$100k signing bonus and the bonuses you get after.  Few years as an associate and they'll clear $200k a year + bonus.  Then Managing Directors make $250-$450k a year + bonus.

If you want a career where you can stay home, DBAs, Coders are always in demand and flexible with work.

Damn, I would have thought Er doctors make more. No wonder no one wants to be a doctor

 

[bones]

For me, it would be derm.  Cush. Good pay.

Those boils, though. I. Just. Can't. http://www.vetnurse.co.uk/emoticons/new/Sick_smiley.png


[/quote]

Ok fine. PMR then. Or radiation oncology but that's super depressing. I know someone that's an ER doc who specializes in toxicology.  Only gets phone calls consults. Never has to go in to actually see patients.  Maybe in my next life, I'll get an MD to do that.

 

[bones]

Dentist's starting salaries are around $80k.  With a few years experience it jumps to $140k+ Unless you open your own practice.

Optometrist's starting salaries are around $90k and they cap out at $125k if you go corporate.  Private practices generally pay you a bit more but you have to piece days together for a full time gig.

Primary care physicians start around $120k-$140k.  Depending of they start their own practice or join a group they usually pull in around $140-$160k mid career.

Emergency Room Physicians start around $195k-$215k.  After a few years they make around $250k and top out at $290k depending on seniority and affiliation.

Specialiasts such as OBs, Peds, rheuma etc are all over the place.

If I could choose a career in medicine it would be emergency medicine or anesthesiology. 

I-Banker Analyst entry level salary are $85k-120k.  $25-$100k signing bonus and the bonuses you get after.  Few years as an associate and they'll clear $200k a year + bonus.  Then Managing Directors make $250-$450k a year + bonus.

If you want a career where you can stay home, DBAs, Coders are always in demand and flexible with work.

Damn, I would have thought Er doctors make more. No wonder no one wants to be a doctor

Being an ER doc sucks. You get no respect from other doctors. Ppl think it's glamorous from the TV shows. If you work in a busy hospital, you deal with all sorts of shit. Pass.

 

[socal78]

If I was a dude... Air Traffic Controller. Excellent pay. Supposedly, they say it's the most stressful job in existence. But whatevs. On days when you're not accidentally crashing plane loads of people into each other, it sounds like a pretty good gig.

 

[homer_simpson]

No respect from other docs? Hmm never heard of that.

It's not a glamorous job but I wouldn't say they don't pull in the respects of fellow physicians. 

They do deal with a lot of crap though..  But to get paid that amount of money to triage most of your work to a specialist does have its upsides. Unless you work at a trauma center, your daily dose of visits are the people with broken bones, flu like symptoms, URI and other boring diagnoses..

 

[bones]

No respect from other docs? Hmm never heard of that.

It's not a glamorous job but I wouldn't say they don't pull in the respects of fellow physicians. 

They do deal with a lot of crap though..  But to get paid that amount of money to triage most of your work to a specialist does have its upsides. Unless you work at a trauma center, your daily dose of visits are the people with broken bones, flu like symptoms, URI and other boring diagnoses..

You just answered your own question. ER docs = triage nurses

That being said, they are some really good ER docs out there. Just generalizing

 

[The Motor Court Company]

no degree required for housewife

Heh. I just realized nobody has mentioned Realtor. 

 

[socal78]

no degree required for housewife

Heh. I just realized nobody has mentioned Realtor. 

no degree required for asshole.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

If I was a dude... Air Traffic Controller. Excellent pay. Supposedly, they say it's the most stressful job in existence. But whatevs. On days when you're not accidentally crashing plane loads of people into each other, it sounds like a pretty good gig.

I know someone who is an ATC... doesn't like it very much... nothing like 'Pushing Tin'.

 

[Paris167]

Maybe I should have asked should kids major in engineering or engineering, assuming they can't get into med school or law school?    I already knew what I'm pushing my kids into before seeing this article...Computer Science. 

Just in case your kid or other's developed an interest in the health care field, here are some of my thought.

Major in one of pre-med majors like biology, chemistry or biochem can provide a lots of options, they can lead them into medicine, dentistry, pharmacy or optometry.  All these professional school require 4 year of graduate school but with almost identical undergraduate requirement.  So the undergrad can sort of wait until end of sophomore year to make the ultimate final decision regarding their career path as long as they are in one of these majors or as long as they take all the necessary prerequisite course.

Also if they change their mind, lost their interest about one particular field, or did not have the grade for it, they can always chose one of the others.  If they can't make it to medical school, than go for dental school.  If they don't like dentistry, than there is pharmacy or optometry.  There's a joke about student who can quite make it to medical school, they are call dental student.

Interestingly, the competitiveness of these professional degree also correspond to their earning potential.  Medicine>dentistry>pharmacy>optometry.  There are pro and con with each profession but that for each individual to figure it out.

Here's a great forum for those future student doctors.  Its a great place for those in high school and undergrad to discuss various aspect of these professional school. By reading their discussion, it also provide a glance of what's like in the professional school.http://www.studentdoctor.net/

I had a friend who was an anthropologie major at Yale, did all her premed requirement AS an anthropologie major and got into pretty much every medical school she applied to - Yale, Harvard, Hopkins, Princeton. You do not have to limit yourself to the "science" majors.

Also no one here mentioned PAs and NPs. Hospitals and specialty groups are looking more at these people within multiple fields in medicine - OR, clinic, derm, plastics - they all use PAs. NPs also hold several hospital administrative positons and they make really good $$ (again varies by their field of work). Nurse anaesthetists will give general doctors a run for their $$ for the salaries they rake in. And as hospitals and clinics try to cut costs they are hiring more PAs and NPs in lieu of physicians.

ED physicans are definitely glorified - emergency departments are becoming more like urgent care clinics with people coming in with a lot of social issues. And with the Affordable Care Act EDs are saturated with patients and getting busier and busier. Good medical fields are definitely derm, allergy, anaesthesia, radiology. The training for plastics is brutal but once you get a private practice going lifestyle great and pay is the best in the field of medicine, esp in a place like OC 

 

[homer_simpson]

No respect from other docs? Hmm never heard of that.

It's not a glamorous job but I wouldn't say they don't pull in the respects of fellow physicians. 

They do deal with a lot of crap though..  But to get paid that amount of money to triage most of your work to a specialist does have its upsides. Unless you work at a trauma center, your daily dose of visits are the people with broken bones, flu like symptoms, URI and other boring diagnoses..

You just answered your own question. ER docs = triage nurses

That being said, they are some really good ER docs out there. Just generalizing

 

[bones]

I had a friend who was an anthropologie major at Yale, did all her premed requirement AS an anthropologie major and got into pretty much every medical school she applied to - Yale, Harvard, Hopkins, Princeton. You do not have to limit yourself to the "science" majors.

The key part of the story here is that she went to Yale.  Harder to do that at non-top schools.