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Yeah, I heard the new 335 handles like a go-kart.





I'm a bit of a car person myself, there's just a disconnect between my income and what I want.





I can watch the Barrett-Jackson auction for hours on end. I had a 63 Impala SS in high school that I wanted to restore but never had the money.
 
<p>I'll put my 85 Toyota Pick-up against your prop job anyday, graph. I'll even give you a head start .</p>

<p>Say SJC Amtrack station to Lake Elsinore's Grand Avenue and back?</p>
 
<p>graph --- I know all too well what that bimmer or beemer or whatever you want to call it will do to me in the twisties. That's why I stay down in the flatlands with the other commuter cars...</p>

<p>This car discussion on IHB is taking away from some of the normal time I would devote to <a href="http://www.edmunds.com">www.edmunds.com</a> while I inhale lunch in my office. Can you people get back to houses already!!</p>
 
Irvine Allergy:





So I'm being contradictory because I was thinking about getting a Saab? I didn't fully research the Saab because I knew I wasn't going to pay that much for a car right now. If I had the cash I would've looked into matters more, but still the price of the Saab 9-3 is not dramatically different than a loaded up Malibu, at least from my initial calculations.





Also, I don't think its very hard to define what is meant by "conspicuous consumption". X is a conspicuous consumer just in case X makes purchases above and beyond what is required by his/her society for the display of wealth/status. So only buying your food at the store 100 years ago may have been conspicuous consumption but tis certainly not anymore. Of course most that purchases a handbag for 10k or a car for 40k says its not for the display of wealth etc, but that is nonsense. We are primates and we behave just like them. Now, I'm not trying to make it seem I'm above all this. Each sort of community has a well-defined way to gain status, for me having fancy material things does nothing. Instead I would have to publish an article in such and such Journal etc.





Janet:





When I talk about building wealth I'm talking about assets and the point, at least to me, is to increase your income. But since it will decrease your income in the short term most people aren't interested. I'm much more interested in planting things in my garden and doing what I want each day than working my butt off so that I can afford expensive artwork, cars etc. But regardless of your lifestyle choices I still think aggressively building assets it the way to go.
 
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Yes hmmm... If you think artwork is a good investment I'd be happy to read your analysis on it. Some things I would like to know about it. How do I determine the "firm foundation" of a piece of Artwork? How in general does artwork appreciate? How can I determine the general historic trends in the valuation of artwork? How much do the insurance costs for the artwork eat into the appreciation? How liquid is the artwork? But I say screw the artwork and lets investment in Stars Wars toys.





Also, my boxers are showing. I hope that doesn't offend you.
 
<p>Nude - I would take that challenge if the construction on 74 was complete. I still think you would win with your dirty short cut though. </p>
 
Tyler -





"Also, I don't think its very hard to define what is meant by "conspicuous consumption". X is a conspicuous consumer just in case X makes purchases above and beyond what is required by his/her society for the display of wealth/status."





So you are basically arguing against a capitalistic economy, since you seem to be implying that all luxury goods are wasteful and are purchased primarily for display purposes. Why would you even bother to visit such a forum as this one, then, whose main purpose seems to be to assist people in coming to a reasonable valuation for homes in Irvine, many of which could be viewed as luxurious and wasteful? Do you really need that 4 bedroom home in a gated community, or is it just a symbol of "showing that you've arrived"?





"Of course most that purchases a handbag for 10k or a car for 40k says its not for the display of wealth etc, but that is nonsense. We are primates and we behave just like them."





If I parse the English here correctly, you are saying people that buy handbags for $10k and/or cars for $40k often claim it is not for the display of wealth and you disagree. First of all, you must agree your example seems to be a little unbalanced when it comes to the prices you've quoted. I know many people who own $40k cars but only a few who regularly buy $10k purses. For the people who buy $40k cars, I don't think the majority of them do so in order to show off. First of all, at least in So Cal, $40k cars are kinda all over the place, no? Many of these people needed the space in a larger car (e.g. SUV) or liked the performance of a sports car/sedan (e.g. BMW). Some buy into the "safety" advertising certain car manufacturers stress (e.g. Mercedes). And sure, some of them may have purchased just to show off a bit. Now people who buy $10k purses usually don't care what you think and are not trying to show off as they are beyond that. They have their own problems, some of a different sort than you face on a day-to-day basis, but some which are the same.





"Each sort of community has a well-defined way to gain status, for me having fancy material things does nothing. Instead I would have to publish an article in such and such Journal etc."





My wife comes from academia and has published in top-tier journals; myself, I have published in medical journals (but not what I would call top-tier). Isn't comparing your accomplishments via publications, grants, tenure, etc., just as shallow as comparing your material wealth though? I mean, if what's really important to you is what you accomplish and the impact you have on this world while you're present here, what's the difference between publishing in Nature or Cell? Well, status I suppose. So don't be so quick to judge someone who wants to ride around in a BMW versus a Honda.





All I'm saying Tyler, is don't prejudge people that you don't really know. Your comment of "Lexus? BMW? Unless you have money coming out of your anus, who the hell buys those cars?" was unnecessarily inflammatory.
 
<p>I am impress someone actually research the 'threads' to do a comeback. Instead of doing trivial research. Why not research into something you know about, my friend. </p>

<p>If you want to put your opinion re: BMW. Please at least own one and not what?....chevy? then onto a Saab? And before you start giving your opinion on business of artworks. Again, please tell us you have some experience in this area also. Otherwise, just stop while you're ahead and move on. </p>
 
<p>DO NOT buy a BMW unless:</p>

<p>You want it because you like to drive. Expect to bang on the accelerator quite often. The car is not engineered for longevity. That's why I suggest leasing one. In my experience, and I am a car fanatic but ever owned a BMW, you'd be better off going with a Lexus or Acura. My uncle couldn't stand his BMW, he called it the ultimate maintenance machine because it was always in the shop. Unless you race your bmw in road courses, I agree that "social status" is one of the main reasons for owning one. </p>

<p>If you are out for speed and power, you might as well get a z06 corvette, blown mustang, or other american muscle car. If you want luxury, the interior of the lexus and infiniti blows away BMW by a mile. I have a 2007 Lexus IS 350 and compared to the BMW 3 series....well it doesn't even compare. The downside to Lexus is the high cost of regularly scheduled maintenance. You need to take it in every 5k in miles. The 25k check up costs $785 bucks. Shees!!</p>

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<p>Blah after this I give up. I still say bimmers FTW. Anyone who hasn't owned one is only giving their opinion. Anyone who says they are big maintenance cars has never worked on them. They are simple and easy to work on and the parts are cheap. Maybe if you have a 750il that has two water pumps that you have to order from Germany then yeah it's expensive. But the older 3 and 5 series are simple cars with motors built like a tank's. Thanks to the internet you can find all the little quirks of any car. Mine for example the climate control goes haywire. Dumb people go to the stealership and pay $350 for the control unit and $100 for the install. Smart people read that this is common. Pop out the climate control 3mins, remove screws 1min, desolder blue capacitor 2mins, solder new capacitor from radioshack that cost $0.30 2mins and put it all back together and put in back in 5mins. In 15mins and $0.30 spent it is fixed. </p>

<p>Anyone know what a catalytic converter for a 96 Toyota Camry costs? I need one for mine. The cost for the two cars have been the same for the last three years. The camry has less miles and when I buy the catalytic converter it will have cost more than the bimmer. </p>

<p>If someone thinks that driving 97 e36 with 120k+ miles is for status I have to laugh. Even though I could afford a Lexus GS350 I would still buy the 335i over it any day and I'd rather drive my e36 over the Lexus. I'd buy my mom the Lexus though. I will say the newer IS is a pretty damn cool car. </p>

<p>And for the people who want to race in a straight line means that you aren't a talented enough driver to drive in the twistys anyway. </p>

<p>Again please don't take my posts too seriously we just talking about cars. I have too much hair on my head to buy a Corvette or Porsche tough. Don't make me take a picture of my tail lights just so you can get used to the sight of them. </p>
 
<p>I like bimmers, they are fun to drive for sure. I like to beat up on my cars and drive them hard. If I were a single guy, I'd probably have an M3. I still have my 1997 honda accord, which I beat the shizit out of and its got 164k miles on it. Starts everytime! My lady friend gets to drive the 350 to work, cuz she needs navigation. Otherwise I get 5 calls a day...."how do I get here..."</p>

<p>...such a nice guy</p>
 
If anyone needs a 325, there's one in my visitor parking with keys inside.





{Not advocating any crime, just pointing out that there are people who think crime in Irvine is nonexistent.}
 
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