Brightwater Huntington Beach reduced 300k?

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<p>Graphrix,</p>

<p>It's hard to do good work when the land is sinking under your feet. Subsidence due to oil extraction was predicted to grow to 4 feet by 2018 by a man named Jan Law. The paper copies have not yet been published on the internet (his career started in the 1930's) but they are located somewhere in the CSULB library. One of his studies was entitled "An Estimate of Future Subsidence, Bolsa Property, Huntington Beach".</p>

<p>Care to guess where Brightwater in Huntington Beach is being built?</p>

<p>I'm not saying that the tile guys weren't shoddy craftsmen, but I doubt a team of 4th century Roman mosaic artists could keep these tile jobs from cracking.</p>
 
Nude,





I hate you, er not really, but you knew by posting that, that I will dig up that info. BRB, I might be able to find it tonight.
 
Oh... and they etched leaves in the glass that the birds were flying into. I dunno how well it has worked, but I didn't notice any dead birds, and yes I did look.
 
I haven't found it yet, but I found this intresting tale...





<em>(Copyright (c) 2005 Los Angeles Times)</em>





<p> Charges of polluting the fragile Bolsa Chica wetlands were dropped this week against an oil rig owner and former Huntington Beach city councilman after he paid $50,000 to settle the case.</p>

<p> John A. Thomas, 66, who ran unsuccessfully for county supervisor on a pro-environment platform in 1994, operated about 50 oil wells in the Huntington Beach wetlands.</p>

<p> In addition to the fine, Thomas funded the wetlands cleanup, which his attorney had estimated when charges were filed in June 2000 would cost millions of dollars.</p>

<p> "It was an equitable decision to settle the case," Deputy Dist. Atty. Steve Yonemura said Thursday.</p>

<p> "There had always been talk about doing that."</p>

<p> The $50,000 was sent this week to the state Department of Fish and Game to cover the cost of the investigation, Yonemura said.</p>

<p> Thomas was accused of dumping 38,000 cubic yards of wood chips and dirt onto 13.5 acres from 1996 to 1998 near the northeast corner of the wetlands, where his rigs operated.</p>

<p> When he responded to the original charges, Thomas' attorney, Julian W. Bailey, agreed with many of the prosecution's accusations but said no crime had been committed.</p>

<p> Neither Bailey nor Thomas could be reached for comment Thursday.</p>

<p> The investigation started after someone reported pollution along Pacific Coast Highway. The State Lands Commission dispatched a pilot to fly over the area, and he reported seeing an oil pool.</p>

<p> The dumping "basically destroyed ecosystems," prosecutor Scott Zidbeck said when the charges were filed. "The plants died; the water dried up."</p>

<p> Steve Edinger of the Fish and Game department said a national wetlands expert had called the damage "the worst wetlands violation he had ever seen."</p>

<p> Shirley Dettloff, an environmental activist and former Huntington Beach mayor, said the settlement seemed fair, considering Thomas had funded the cleanup.</p>

<p> "He shouldn't have done it in the first place," she said, "but he appears to have paid the price."</p>

<p> Dettloff is vice president of the environmental group Amigos de Bolsa Chica.</p>

<p> Like others in the environmental community, she said, she found the original charges baffling.</p>

<p> "He had appeared to have a real respect for fragile habitats," she said. "It was surprising he did not follow through on those promises."</p>
 
graph, don't waste the time. The report hasn't been digitized by CSULB yet. The best you'll do is find an oral history with no transcript.
 
<p><em>Here is a shot of the inside of the shower. Notice the bubble of the level is away from the drain, this means it is sloped so that the water will flow to the drain.





Now, notice how the bubble of the level is away from the crack, meaning it is sloped so that the water will flow into the crack.</em></p>

<p>ROFL!</p>

<p>The houses I lived in at UCI (Arroyo Vista) had serious construction issues like these. I have actually seen water dripping down from the ceiling to the first floor (and into some college student's tupperware bowl) due to shower tile issues on the second floor. It sucks to be living in a house while the bathrooms are being redone. I'm not sure if the lawsuit I heard about is still pending or not.</p>
 
<p>I drove out there this morning again and studied the topography. The bluff is totally manmade from imported dirt to elevate the pad elevation in avoiding the potential problems most local residents feared the most. The annual high tide that caused flooding damages to homes in neighboring Seal Beach and Sunset Beach. Importing and exporting dirt is a common practice today in balancing cut and fill to maximize the buildable area into one big flat pad on stable ground that is away from major drainage path. In Irvine there are plenty of these activities performed and the land is solid and much stable. </p>

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<p>On the other hand, Blightwater is extremely close to swamp and marsh land where the soil is known to be mushy. This is a very important theory. This soil has high plasticity and can not hold its form due to the ever changing water level condition based on high and low tide as well as seasonal rain that that most of the water from tributary storm drain outlets from Central OC dump into this surrounding regions further weaken the adhesive bond of soil. As more weight is added to the bluff by dirt import as well as manmade structures consisting of dead and live loads the download pressure of the artificial bluff will require substantial "buttress" or solid land mass at the toe of the slope to resist the outward thrusting lateral forces. Since there is absence of solid land mass at the base because the soil is saturated and considered extremely mobile the result is unstable ground. </p>

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<p>Graphrix's pictures are an indicator of land settlement where the ground is shifting and moving and these cracks and material pulling apart is the symptoms. All builders today mask the settlement issues by using post tensioned slab embedded with steel tendons in the concrete. The steel cable has bolts at the ends where a machine is used to tighten the bolt to 3,000 psi in giving extreme rigidity to the slab. Because concrete requires time to cure the ground has settlement the result of movement still translated to the cosmetic finishes. My concern is the post tensioned slab will hide a lot of the ground movement symptoms but will fail at the most extreme condition and by then it will be too late. Graphrix concern and observation are valid. Compounding with marginal craftsmanship and Mother Nature’s settlement forces the cracks could be an indicator of much worst thing to come. </p>

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<p>This Blog is to educate those who know very little about the building industry. I learned so much of my lessons the hardway and failures many years ago when a blog like this was not available.</p>
 
<p>Brightwater in Huntington Beach by Hearthside Homes is the builder's first attempt in building luxury homes. It has no track record in upper end home projects like Laing Luxury. It has no experience in high quality control. It hired a copycat architect to knock off other products and the result is a cross dresser. I do not even recall seeing any of its products in Irvine where most of the good builders built homes. It employed a bunch of old ex Mission Viejo Company staff hoping to make a name for themselves before their retirement. </p>

<p>Brightwater in Huntington Beach by Hearthside Homes is like Walmart trying to disguise as Neiman Marcus. Looking beyond the cracking cosmetic finishes and one will the bones of these homes weak and fragile literally. The ground is showing signs of instability. Hearthside Homes should continue to building prisons where the buyers do not get to complain much about its quality control.</p>

<p>The water leveler I saw in the pictures clearly identifying the floor movement. It is just too bad that there are no interior doors in the model homes to indicate the severity of the ground movement as the doors would get stuck in the door frames.</p>

<p>Buyers beware of Brightwater in Huntington Beach by Hearthside Homes because inexperienced Hearthside Homes should not have built Brightwater in controversial swamp land, altering the topography drastically , rerouted the course of drainage thus impacting other erosion issues in Huntington Beach. </p>

<p>Bad Feng Shui to the burial site, floor plan configurations, and disturbing the harmony of the ecological preserve habitats. </p>
 
<p>"Buyers beware of Brightwater in Huntington Beach by Hearthside Homes because inexperienced Hearthside Homes should not have built Brightwater in controversial swamp land, altering the topography drastically , rerouted the course of drainage thus impacting other erosion issues in Huntington Beach. Bad Feng Shui to the burial site, floor plan configurations, and disturbing the harmony of the ecological preserve habitats."</p>

<p>There! How you like us now HB Big Bird? The master has spoken - end of story!</p>
 
I posted back in the first couple of pages that if prices were to come down, the builder will give incentives to people who already purchase...



well word on the street today is that some people who bought already started reading stuff online (which i'm assuming is this blog) and the are starting to stir some trouble w/ the builder.
 
<em>>>Oh... and they etched leaves in the glass that the birds were flying into. I dunno how well it has worked, but I didn't notice any dead birds, and yes I did look.</em>





I was looking at Brightwater Huntington Beach on Google Earth. If you turn on the setting to let you see pictures people have posted, someone posted two pics of that glass wall called "Wall of Death #1" and "Wall of Death #2."





Turns out there is a #3 as well.
 
<p><em>Hey, where did the rah-rah crowd go?</em></p>

<p>Probably talking to their legal council to send a cease and desist letter for intimidation or planning a bogus SLAPP lawsuit.</p>
 
<p>Umm....Why so personal? Like you have been preaching. Get out there and enjoy life. And this is part of life, isn't it? To each his own. What you do with your life and it makes you happy then that's all good for you, right? It almost seems to me that you only have one definition of living life and that's yours and yours only. And whoever live it differently than your defintion of "life" is wrong?</p>
 
<p>You have been telling everyone to live life to its fullest. But at the same time, you have shared with everyone on this site your miserable life. </p>

<p>Wouldn't you think it's best to meet a professional? Or at least a close friend to hear your sorrow? Instead of wasting your "life" on this site cursing at the world.</p>
 
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