Birth Tourism

[eyephone]

Any neighboring countries by land will cross over illegally over any others by boat or plane.  True for Europe and Asia as well.

They can just walk over, it's so easy. I read or saw a news clip, that they are using drones to transport drugs into US.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-drone-drugs-20150813-story.html

 

[irvinehomeshopper]

Segerstrom finally returned to Santa Ana permanently after living in Newport Beach for years.

Maybe they can approach Segerstrom and ask to lease the Wyndham SCP and change it to the SCP Birth Resort.  Much more luxurious than an apartment and has a pedestrian bridge over Bristol to SCP. 

 

[lnc]

why not legalize birth tourism. monetize it. for example, the platinum package would cost half a million, including VIP access to hospitals, unlimited access to major attractions in LA/OC counties...etc

LOL and then tax them 50% of income 

Ha ha,  actually their future American citizen baby are on on the hook to pay income tax when they grow up, no matter where they live in the world.

 

[The Motor Court Company]

there are actually more illegal Latino anchor babies than Asian anchor babies. But Bush picked out Asians because Asians are a minority compared to Latinos and more sheep like

 

[Irvinecommuter]

there are actually more illegal Latino anchor babies than Asian anchor babies. But Bush picked out Asians because Asians are a minority compared to Latinos and more sheep like

significantly smaller population...and do not really go to the polls.

 

[bones]

I've had both Mexican and Korean gardeners.  The Mexican one was a little cheaper ($15 a month), but didn't do anything except blow some leaves here and there.  I then tried out a Korean one and I couldn't believe the difference in quality.  I'm paying $15 more per month, but my landscape has never looked better.

Care to share your gardener's info?  My current gardener (Mexican) also just blows some leaves.  Thanks!

 

[The Motor Court Company]

Yes that's my point. It will effect Latino more (his true agenda) but Asians are a much easier target.

there are actually more illegal Latino anchor babies than Asian anchor babies. But Bush picked out Asians because Asians are a minority compared to Latinos and more sheep like

significantly smaller population...and do not really go to the polls.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

Yes that's my point. It will effect Latino more (his true agenda) but Asians are a much easier target.

there are actually more illegal Latino anchor babies than Asian anchor babies. But Bush picked out Asians because Asians are a minority compared to Latinos and more sheep like

significantly smaller population...and do not really go to the polls.

Personally I think it was an attempt at a verbal gaffe.  Bush is getting pulled to the right by Trump and realized how damage his comment was.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

My current gardener (Mexican) also just blows some leaves.

Dang... I thought qwerxican was more full service.

x infi

 

[Roger]

My current gardener (Mexican) also just blows some leaves.

Dang... I thought qwerxican was more full service.

x infi

LOL

 

[bones]

My current gardener (Mexican) also just blows some leaves.

Dang... I thought qwerxican was more full service.

x infi

Apparently I have the wrong qwerxican. He's super nice though. Going to feel bad when I tell him I no longer need his services.

 

[qwerty]

While the benefit of qwerxicans is inarguable, I do feel that because they don't contribute to the tax infrastructure, there is an imbalance.

The only thing I agree about tougher border security is to prevent terrorism, not hard working qwerxicans.

Well they spend what they don't send back to Mexico. They pay 7.75-9% sales tax. If they were legal they probably wouldn't pay much in income taxes because they make working poor wages. The only tax you miss out on is the social security and Medicare taxes which add up to about 7.7% in taxes.

 

[Angels_Baseball_2015]

Foreign cash buyers do contribute to the local California economy in the form of property taxes based on inflated house values (house values inflated in part by their interest in California real estate), Mello, HOAs, etc., and the sales tax on the expensive stuff they buy.  If you do the Trump and kick them all out, Irvine may have a hard time paying for its police, schools, etc.  So you have to kind of take the good with the bad (birth tourism).  As others have mentioned, those folks who are doing birth tourism may be the same folks buying these $1M properties in Irvine, so I doubt they're all that interested in California welfare benefits.  But I could be wrong.

 

[qwerty]

Oh I see. It's ok to take the bad with the good as long as they are Chinese. I see.

 

[Irvinecommuter]

While the benefit of qwerxicans is inarguable, I do feel that because they don't contribute to the tax infrastructure, there is an imbalance.

The only thing I agree about tougher border security is to prevent terrorism, not hard working qwerxicans.

Well they spend what they don't send back to Mexico. They pay 7.75-9% sales tax. If they were legal they probably wouldn't pay much in income taxes because they make working poor wages. The only tax you miss out on is the social security and Medicare taxes which add up to about 7.7% in taxes.

Actually...they also contribute to SS and Medicare taxes too!

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. ? While many Americans believe illegal immigrants don?t pay taxes, billions of dollars deducted from paychecks issued to undocumented workers flow to the Social Security Administration (SSA) every year. Those workers almost certainly will never see that money again.

Social Security officials keep a record of wages that do not match up with real names and numbers in their system. The record is called the earnings suspense file.

In 2009, the last year for which figures are available, employers reported wages of $72.8 billion for 7.7 million workers who could not be matched to legal Social Security numbers.

That total hit a record $90.4 billion, earned by 10.8 million workers, in 2007, just before the recession. Some of those were legal workers who simply made paperwork mistakes, but the majority are believed to be illegal immigrants.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/illegal-immigrants-pay-social-security-tax-wont-benefit/

 

[woodburyowner]

The Seattle Times article also states - "But that $7 billion figure pales when compared to the cost of having illegal aliens here,? Mehlman said.
His federation estimates local, state and federal spending on illegal immigrants ? mainly for education and health care ? costs about $100 billion per year."

 

[Irvinecommuter]

The Seattle Times article also states - "But that $7 billion figure pales when compared to the cost of having illegal aliens here,? Mehlman said.
His federation estimates local, state and federal spending on illegal immigrants ? mainly for education and health care ? costs about $100 billion per year."

The "cost" analysis for illegal immigrant being here is pretty vague...there is a lot of debate about that, mostly along party lines.  There are also a lot of analysis that say illegal immigration is economically beneficial to the US. 
http://immigration.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000788

The paid payroll taxes and unreceived benefits are facts though.

 

[zubs]

The taxpayers don't care about race..We only care about money.
Who is more of a drain to our government funds?

 

[Irvinecommuter]

The taxpayers don't care about race..We only care about money.
Who is more of a drain to our government funds?

Sorry...taxpayer care a lot about race.  A lot.

 

[Happiness]

Foreign cash buyers do contribute to the local California economy in the form of property taxes based on inflated house values (house values inflated in part by their interest in California real estate), Mello, HOAs, etc., and the sales tax on the expensive stuff they buy.  If you do the Trump and kick them all out, Irvine may have a hard time paying for its police, schools, etc.  So you have to kind of take the good with the bad (birth tourism).  As others have mentioned, those folks who are doing birth tourism may be the same folks buying these $1M properties in Irvine, so I doubt they're all that interested in California welfare benefits.  But I could be wrong.

I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if the birth tourism center is operating out of your next door neighbors house.

Are there Mexican illegals doing unsavory things?  Of course, but they are unlikely to be doing it in your neighborhood.  Mainland China birth tourists, on the other hand....