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Hey, I'd like to get an attachment for my bike so I can carry stuff. But the standard rear racks from Proformance Bicycle don't fit my smallish bike. Does anyone know of a good place in Irvine I can go with my bike to find something (front basket or rear rack) that fits? Need to not be seat mounted (as I share the bike & have to adjust the seat all the way down often).
 
<img height="660" alt="Humorous 4-panel cartoon poking fun at cycling number-crunchers." width="500" border="0" src="http://www.bikexchange.com/cartoon33.gif" />
 
<img alt="Humorous 4-panel cartoon about the effect of rain on cycling" border="0" src="http://www.bikexchange.com/cartoon32.gif" />
 
<p>Hey Anonymouse, will <a href="http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5750636&sourceid=1500000000000003260420&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5750636">this one</a> fit the Bill? (Or Bars) Is there any reason why you can't use a Backpack or Messenger Bag? Baskets always seem to make the steering and geometry unstable on a Bike...</p>

<p>If you lower the Saddle it needs to be in the exact same position otherwise you can suffer Knee damage, wrap some electrical Tape around the seatpost once it's in a good position for you so you can go back to the same position every time </p>

<p>Hey Rockette, thanks for the Cartoons </p>
 
If you guys see a freaky tall guy on a trek 1500 USPS bike on back bay say hello. I do the ride about 3X per week. Haven't done it this week though because I've been sick...*cough cough hack*
 
<p>will do IT, that's a nasty cough you have ....I've been sick too......</p>

<p>I haven't got time to be sick but I can't seem to get better, it's been lingering for two weeks now.</p>

<p>You should join us on a 7C IHB ride sometime, prof is really annoying (but Hawt) but the rest of us are friendly enough </p>
 
Pete - FWIW, I had it too, and it does take a long time to recover. If you cough is dry, get a humidifier at the drug store. It helped me *a lot*. Also, my coworker said her doc gave her antibiotics once it changed to only a cough. So maybe check in with your doc, too.
 
<p>Hey POIT guy,</p>

<p>If you see a guy riding on a blue Trek 5200 furiously trying to chase down a Brit on an Orange Cannondale (looking relaxed and casually riding on a fast pace), please do flag us down and say hello as well. :)</p>

<p>-Founding Member of the 1-800-WHAA-AAA Club</p>
 
<p>Thanks Eva, what exactly is it that I have? At times it feels like the Flu, yet some of the time I feel perfectly fine! It's really odd! Thanks for the advice btw...</p>

<p> </p>

<p>POIT guy, Vic is Sandbagging It's his way of duping the unsuspecting into shelling out for Coffee....</p>
 
<p>May I suggest a Back Bay loop modification? The middle third (starts after turning onto PCH) has a rider playing in traffic a bit much for my taste. My proposal: After turning right onto Dover, take the path to the right up to Andover Park:</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/268893048_xDLQj-L.jpg" /></p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/268893387_dfHUS-L.jpg" /> </p>

<p> </p>

<p>After you get to the top, head north behind the row of houses up on the cliff:</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/268893190_d4HMB-L.jpg" /></p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/268893361_9DF6i-L.jpg" /></p>

<p> </p>

<p>Follow the trail around, then turn right off the footpath and onto Santiago Dr:</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/268893417_rP5De-L.jpg" /></p>

<p> </p>

<p>Stay on Santiago until you meet the original route:</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/269046283_DgHLm-O.gif" /></p>

<p> </p>

<p>MUCH more pleasant and safe. For those not members of the 13% club, you can avoid the climb up to Andover Park via an entry to the footpath off Dover just before Westcliff.</p>
 
Thanks eff, you're right, it's a nice route with no Traffic, I haven't ridden up that way for ages...and by the way, the 7C (IHB) Club laughs at 13% climbs, they refer to them as mere "speed bumps"
 
<p class="firstpara">Calgal.....sorry, I forgot to reply to the post about your Hubby shopping for a Bike....</p>

<p class="firstpara">Yes, Bikes can be very expensive, it's always good to buy a reasonably priced (~$600) Bike for a first Road Bike, which is what your Husband will need to ride paved roads, they're just more efficient, then, after lots of miles (I mean LOTS of miles) he will know whether or not he can justify a more expensive Bike, he'll also then know what kind of Bike to look for...</p>

<p class="firstpara">I found this at <a href="http://www.fatcyclist.com/">FatCyclist.com</a>, don't read it, with your eyes closed, copy and paste it into an e-mail and send it to Him....</p>

<p class="firstpara"><strong>How to justify a new Bike.</strong></p>

<p class="firstpara">We cyclists are simple folk. We don't need much to keep us happy. Really, all we need are clear skies and a road or trail to make us happy.</p>

<p>And a helmet, of course. And gloves. And shorts with a special antimicrobial chamois insert. And form-fitting shirts. And very stiff-soled shoes, preferably Italian-made. And specialty sports drinks, with an incomprehensible combination of carbohydrates, proteins, electrolytes, and a lemon-lime flavoring that for some reason makes one think of furniture polish.</p>

<p>Oh, and we need bikes. More specifically, we need <em>another</em> bike. Always. And that means we need to <em>pay</em> for another bike.</p>

<p>Now, it's not the paying <em>per se</em> that's difficult. We can always find a way to get the money we need for bike stuff — take a second job, sell a kidney, money laundering, whatever.</p>

<p>What's difficult is <em>justifying</em> the expense of yet another bicycle, whether it be to our wives, our parents, or to our own nagging conscience.</p>

<p>Sometimes we fail in our justification, and then where are we? We're in the Purgatory of No New Bikes, that's where we are. That's a bad place. A bad, bad place. We should never have to be in that place.</p>

<p>And if you will follow these techniques, you will never be in that place again.</p>

<p class="subhead">It will save money on gas</p>

<p>This may surprise you, but bikes can actually be used as <em>transportation,</em> and there are some people who — oddly enough — actually use their bikes to get around from place to place, instead of driving. Explain that with this new bike you will be saving serious transportation costs and doing your part for the environment.</p>

<p class="subhead"><em>Caveat</em>: Do <em>not</em> explain that the new bike you're considering costs approximately the same as three years' worth of fuel, and most especially do not explain that any of the bikes you already have would work as transportation, too. If brought up as a counterargument, explain — dismissively — that your other bikes aren't really for that kind of thing.</p>

<p class="subhead">It's less expensive than a humongous HDTV</p>

<p>This will take a little bit of preparation, but is well worth it. For about three weeks, don't mention the new bike you want. At <em>all</em>. Instead, with increasing intensity and frequency, begin talking about how you're thinking about getting a giant high-def television. And a Blu-Ray DVD player. And a subscription to high-def cable/satellite (or both!). And a serious sound system to go with it. Be very, very open about how much this will cost — about three times as much as the bike you want.</p>

<p>Argue convincingly (not <em>too convincingly</em>, though) and loudly about why you ought to get this massive entertainment system.</p>

<p>About the time your boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse/parent is at wit's end, capitulate. Right in the middle of an argument, act like a light's just come on in your head. "You know, you're <em>right</em>!" you say, catching them off-guard. "It's outrageously expensive and it would just rot my brain, especially when a new bike would cost me less than <em>half</em> as much!"</p>

<p>They'll be so relieved — not to mention pleased at having clearly won an argument with you — they'll just let that remark go. Next day, you come home with the new bike, as the two of you agreed.</p>

<p class="subhead"><em>Bonus:</em> It's possible this technique will backfire on you and your significant other will really get into the idea of buying a home theatre system. That's the beauty of this technique: even if you lose, you win!</p>

<p class="subhead">You Will <em>Easily</em> <strong>Recoup the Cost of This Bike in Prize Money</strong></p>

<p>Did you know there's big money in bike racing? There is! Just ask Lance Armstrong; he's made a very comfortable living by racing his bicycle.</p>

<p>Do you think Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France seven times riding a piece of crap like the one you ride? No, he most certainly did not.</p>

<p>If you're going to start winning races and making millions of dollars like Lance, you're going to need a better bike.</p>

<p>The prize money will follow naturally.</p>

<p class="subhead">This bike will hardly cost anything after the trade-in</p>

<p>Thinking of trading in an old bike for the new one? Excellent. You'll want to get out your soft math skills for this technique.</p>

<p>First, find out the suggested retail for the new bike you want. Reduce that figure by 25%, because nobody pays MSRP for <em>anything</em> these days. Then take another 10% off because you're friends with a guy at the shop. Take another 5% off because you're a sharp negotiator. Tell your significant other that's how much your new bike will cost.</p>

<p>Next, estimate how much your current bike is actually worth. Add 10% to that, because I can tell you've taken really good care of your bike. Add 5% because I think you're just being too modest. Then add 15% to that figure because you want some negotiating room. Tell your significant other that's how much you'll be selling your old bike for.</p>

<p>If you're any good <em>at all</em> with creative math, you should actually be able to make a case that you may well be <em>pocketing</em> some money when all is said and done.</p>

<p class="subhead"><em>Note</em>: When it turns out that the actual cost of the new bike is much higher — and the amount you sell the old bike for is lower — than you expect, I highly recommend shrugging and blaming taxes, shipping, and the fees the online site charged. "Man, everyone wants a slice," you can say, resignedly.</p>

<p class="subhead">This bike is the bike to end all bikes</p>

<p>I fully admit that this approach is dangerous, but desperate times call for desperate measures, as I think all of us who have ever had a carbon fiber jones can attest.</p>

<p>"I know I have a lot of bikes already," you should say (it's good to start with a true statement, because that fools people into thinking other things you say may also be true). "This one, though, is different. It fits me unlike any bike ever made. It will never break. It is both beautiful and functional. It weighs 2.3Kg, fully loaded."</p>

<p>Continue with, "This is the ultimate expression of a bicycle. I shall never need another."</p>

<p>Look her/him right in the eyes as you conclude, "Hey, it's not like I'm talking about buying a Ferrari here, but how often in my life will I have a chance to own something that is truly <em>perfect?</em>" (<strong><em>Note</em></strong>: Do not say this if you own a Ferrari.) Try to mist up a little as you say this. It adds impact.</p>
 
I agree with Peter... $600 is above the Crappy Bike Threshold and is a good price point for a first bike. If he likes to tinker in the garage, that bike can be upgraded so that it may continue to suit his needs. Bikes at the $600 point have good solid frames -- The only real penalty versus a more expensive bike is a bit of weight. Everything attached to the frame can be upgraded.
 
What Eff said plus when going from a Mountain bike to a Roadbike is very wierd...whether it's a $400 or $20,000 bike ive yet to hear someone getting off their first test ride saying "Oh man..that is any awesome bike..it fits me like a Glove..I could ride that for 200 miles non stop" the reason being that you have a 1" wide Saddle stuck up your Arse..you're hunched over and realize after trying to hold your head up for a 4 minute test ride you could very well be walking around in a neck brace for 2 weeks..



So it's not possible for a novice to tell what is right or wrong for them...

After a year and a few thousand miles one can see what kind of riding they have been doing and select a bike accordingly..some like a complliant Carbon fiber bike for a comfy ride, some like Aluminum for a stiffer more responsive ride...or steel, Titanium etc etc..



Then the dangerous costly part as fatty points out in the article I posted comes into it as one gets more into the sport..you need several bikes for varying reasons..one foe commuting, one or two for group rides at varying pace and terrain..another for nipping to the coffee shop...



I will admit that in Cycling there is a very fine line between being enthusiastic and mental illness....



Cycling can become frighteningly expensive if you believe all the marketing hype..like i do...



I love Fatties articles because they are so embarassingly true..dammit!
 
<p>2 things:</p>

<p>Eff: I went up the trail up to Andover park. I think the incline is actually steeper there. However, the view is amazing and worth the hard work. Thanks for taking the photos. :)</p>

<p>Pete: I think new/better bikes help a lot with the ride experience. Anyone looking to buy a new bike should definitely test drive a few before they make their decision. Serious cyclists are a little bit loony (except PeterUK), but for the most part, really nice people, and in really good shape. I was riding Jeffrey to Newport Back Bay yesterday, and ran into a triathelete (on a 13 year old Cannondale never the less). He let me tag along at 21 mph against head wind for about 8 miles.... Crazy experience, but you are a better person afterwards...</p>
 
<p>I'll take this one:</p>

<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=33976"><img alt="" src="http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/2008/bikes/9785-25_d.jpg" /></a></p>

<p>I've stayed out of this thread because I know you drop-handle lovers like to socialize amongst yourselves and chat about cadence and miles and the coolest color jerseys, but I just had to chuckle at the "13% club" comments.</p>

<p> I decided to post my dream bike and my all-time favorite place to ride: Red Rock Canyon, NV. That place has left me with scars. And I don't mean that ride from the city to the top of the loop, that's just a warm up. </p>

<p>It's no fun if your ride doesn't include rock ledges, rattlesnakes, cactus, pine trees, mules, and occasionally having to strap your bike to your back and scramble up the side of a cliff </p>
 
<p><em>I've stayed out of this thread because I know you drop-handle lovers like to socialize amongst yourselves and chat about cadence and miles and the coolest color jerseys</em></p>

<p>I call that "roadie cultural pathology" and it's a pox on the sport of cycling. </p>
 
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