irvinebear said:hello said:jmoney74 said:fishfinder333 said:hello said:iacrenter said:From a design perspective and proximity to the GP, I can appreciate BP but the high MR and location on a superfund site is a turn off. Competition is good and it will be interesting to see how TIC and 5P play this game.
exactly... the high MR is bad enough, but seriously do people not care that this is on a previous superfund site? When there is no immediate cause and effect on your health, people seem to ignore things. asbestos, DDT, DES are a few of MANY MANY toxins that have had scientifically proven harmful effects on the human body. None of these were a concern to people until much later when we discovered these things were causing cancer 20-30 years later and in some cases like DES, causing cancer in children of exposed mothers! I know we have TCE plume under the base and in parts of Irvine, but this base im sure the site has many other toxins. I wouldnt be surprise that they find tons of other VOC's like benzene, toulene and heavy metals such as lead at this site. Buyer beware... in all honesty and I am being 100% honest here. I wouldnt live in BP if they gave me the house...
Agreed! I don't know why so many home buyers in the BP area overlook that their home is built on a superfund site. The builders know it. That's why these homes are priced very competitively and they provide great amenities to lure buyers. Then you have the whole annual 2% increase on MR which is another issue. But thanks BP residence for paying for GP future development. My family and I will enjoy future amenities while wearing our hazmat suits ;D
was their cleanup worthless? I'm not a scientist but there are cleanups and testing done.. but you are implying that it won't help?
Do you think its possible to completely clean this up? I HIGHLY doubt it. FUrthermore its a trust issue. Unfortunately history should tell you that you cannot trust EPA nor various other agencies. As I mentioned in my previous post, too many past and current situations where government regulations have failed. Why are we finding that nearly all pregnant women have various amounts of polychlorinated biphenyls, organocholrine pesticides, PBDEs, Phthalates, PAHs in their system? Why are we finding very high levels of fire retardant in our infants? Why? because there was a law until recently called TB-117 that forced furniture makings to use toxic levels of fire retardant regardless of whether studies which showed it was not efficacious or not. Why do we have faucets that STILL have lead in it, especially if they are advertised as "lead free". Why is it that we have 80K chemicals used in the USA and MOST of them have not been studied for safety? In fact 60K of these chemicals have been grandfathered in before the toxic substance control act in 1976 and therefore no testing on them is necessary by law. Why do we have severely elevated levels of formaldehyde in homes - especially new constructions? Why is it that builders are not required to provide testing to prove they do not have elevated levels? Why do you think some homes in BP are advertising low VOC paint and carpets?
I could keep going, however specifically to the great park. Im pretty sure this superfund site is contaminated with beneze and we know there is a trichlorethylene plume under it in the ground water. These chemicals are KNOWN to increase neural tube defects (spina bifidia, etc), increase risk of cancers (including childhood blood cancers like leukemia, liver, lung kidney, etc), reproductive issues, etc, etc. These are just the knowns... who knows what else they could cause.
Yes, everyone will be exposed to dangerous chemicals and likely we come into contact with them all the time. However why not try to avoid it as much as possible? This is not an all or nothing issue. These chemicals likely have a cumulative effects so it would be in your best interest to avoid as much as possible. Can I prove that you WILL be exposed to these things? Absolutely not, however living on top of a superfund site known to have harmful chemicals doesnt exactly seem like the best thing to do.
While you're at it, why don't you share your opinion on vaccinations as well? Seriously, this diatribe is grade A political talking head babble.
Everyone should be vaccinated. TCE?....well thats not for everyone. Perhaps just you.