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Wow! Are Irvine schools really that good to sacrifice lot size, privacy, space and money for an over priced house. Try to name some famous scientists, inventors or scholars graduated from Irvine schools. I searched and searched only Will and Dita came up. That is really sad.
 
Graph,

I was wondering if you ever lived in Ladera? You seem to have a very strong opinion about it that I've never really felt when I lived there.

Grace,

As I mentioned before, I'm currently renting a townhouse at Woodbury and I've never once smelt my neighbor's cooking let alone poo or had problems with privacy!

I did live in a traditional SFR in Northwood about 10 years ago (with driveway and huge backyard) and I felt I had more problems with neighbor's snooping on me back then (granted I was a college kid living with other college kids).

My family was never wealthy and we lived in apartments for a very long time up when I was growing up in the S.F. Bay Area. I guess I've never really experienced your guy's sense of privacy since I think I'm fine right now and I'm assuming it will be better at my new place since it's detached.


While the backyard at the new place is small, it's more than adequate for me to have a bbq and host people. Plus, it's not a big deal to me now since I utilize the pools and parks so much when we have get-togethers with friends anyway. I love the basketball court and run the open space trail quite often and I feel these amenities more than make up for the lack of my backyard size. I will miss the Woodbury lagoon pool when I move to the east side of town...

Sigh...I'm still in my 20's so what do I know! All I know is I plan on living in my house for a very long time and I can see my unborn kids grow up in this neighborhood and I feel the plan I selected will be able to accommodate us for a long time.
 
When you are still young you only think of immediate and temporary need.


Builders, planners, architects and developers never live in the communities that they created. Nada.

They live in Laguna Beach, Orange, SJC, CDM, Newport and NEVER in Irvine. When the creators don't live in their own products that should be a hint.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]When you are still young you only think of immediate and temporary need.


Builders, planners, architects and developers never live in the communities that they created. Nada.

They live in Laguna Beach, Orange, SJC, CDM, Newport and NEVER in Irvine. When the creators don't live in their own products that should be a hint.



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Well, if I had all the money in the world of course I would live in NPB or Laguna too!

It's like saying "well CEO's have nice Benz and Beamers...you should get one too since it's better than your Camry."

Orange/SJC... no thank you- it's too far of a commute for me to work compared to what I'm doing now. Remember I did do the commute from Ladera for 5 years so I know how it is...
 
Not everyone has the lifestyles that "builders/planners/architects/developers" have to want to live somewhere else other than Irvine.

For all those people who would "NEVER" live in Irvine, there are over 200,000 who do... and the current flat price drops compared to areas just outside of Irvine indicates something about the premium of living here.
 
You are missing my point here.

Tiger Wood drove an Escalade when he has been endorcing Chrysler for years because he knew Chrysler made bad cars.

The people behind the products knew too much of the flaws so they do not live in them and rather live somewhere else with a better value.

The staff at Chinese restaurants eat dinner at 10 pm but they never eat the items from the menu.

The problem is NOT Irvine but the high price for so little in return.

Developers have been robbing your yard. TalkIrvine party deserves a better setting like a private backyard instead of a public park with challenging parking logistic.
 
Coronado is not SFR, it is Single Family HOME or Detached condo.

I am considering Coronado Plan 3 as it has best value for money($330 sqft) with decent backyard and home size(1944 sqft).


However, I have been reading about the quality of KB homes any suggestions to be cautions before signing the contract, like putting some mortgage contingency clause in the contract?.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]I have NEVER heard praises regarding KB Homes from homeowners but lawsuits. Please join the crowd. [/quote]

I feel like your arguments using Tiger and his Escalade, Chinese restaurants, and builders who choose not to live in the homes they built are really strong assumptions that are not backed up by hard facts. It could be very well that Tiger makes a boat load of money and likes to drive a nicer car. Or maybe, Chinese cooks are sick of cooking and seeing the same foods night in and night out. Also, builders may have a very lavish lifestyle and can afford to live on the ocean.

Also, not cool that you want my house to fall apart! (I'm just teasing).

Post #1 seems to indicate that KB Homes in Irvine are OK. Granted there are other posts against them! But hey.. it's still one positive post that you've never seen!

http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/1872/


I would've bet that if I had posted that I bought in SJC or Orange, a bunch of TI folks would've have told me i would regret sitting in a car all day commute to Irvine and that I would be spending a lot on gas.

Anyway, I have one more day until I have to give TIC my 3% and soul....what to do?! Btw I appreciate everyone's candid and personal feedback on this topic. Since this is my first home, I am pretty excited AND scared as well!
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]

Developers have been robbing your yard. TalkIrvine party deserves a better setting like a private backyard instead of a public park with challenging parking logistic. [/quote]

I think the difficulty finding space in Woodbury to host just 10 or so people from TI underlines some of the issues here. As I understand it, we are not even able to secure a public park or clubhouse --- we ended up with a plan of just basically taking over a small common area at an IAC complex? With chairs that are bolted to the ground? I'm not trying to be unappreciative --- many thanks to roundcorners to setting this up --- but the great lengths he had to go to find any space at all is telling of what you will deal with trying to entertain friends or family when you have no real yard and/or worse, no parking.

I would have offered my backyard (even though graph makes fun it for only being 5,000 sq ft). But since my area code is 714, I think that might be a problem.
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Both head planners live in Laguna Beach.

Both architects for 2010 collection created numerous projects in Irvine live in San Juan Capistrano and Emerald Bay.

Builders lives in Laguna Beach, San juan Capistrano, Orange, North tustin and Rancho Santa Fe.

Momopi and other Chinese posters can verify the dishes the staff ate nightly at Chinese resturants. A bowl of homemade soup such as watercress, dry bok choy or mustard green, some stirfry bok choy with ginger, Simple plain tofu and steamed pork patties.
These are the healthy dishes without lard and msg.

Names are withheld to protect privacy.
 
I live in a KB home, circa 1994. It has it's flaws but it also "is what it is" a mass produced tract home.

Although Irvine schools may be highly rated, I cannot comprehend paying $330 per SF for a zero yard, big mello roos, HOA bound property in a high density neighborhood when you might get the same thing or better in Mission Viejo/RSM/Tustin for significantly less. The draw to buy these homes is a unique phenomenon to me.
 
[quote author="USCTrojanCPA"] So I don't know where you think I'm sour about TIC not offering any buyer's co-op commish.[/quote]

Because you CONSTANTLY bring it up. If you don't want people to think you are bitter about it, then shut up about it.
 
[quote author="ck"]
[quote author="graceomalley"]

Developers have been robbing your yard. TalkIrvine party deserves a better setting like a private backyard instead of a public park with challenging parking logistic. [/quote]

I think the difficulty finding space in Woodbury to host just 10 or so people from TI underlines some of the issues here. As I understand it, we are not even able to secure a public park or clubhouse --- we ended up with a plan of just basically taking over a small common area at an IAC complex? With chairs that are bolted to the ground? I'm not trying to be unappreciative --- many thanks to roundcorners to setting this up --- but the great lengths he had to go to find any space at all is telling of what you will deal with trying to entertain friends or family when you have no real yard and/or worse, no parking.

I would have offered my backyard (even though graph makes fun it for only being 5,000 sq ft). But since my area code is 714, I think that might be a problem.
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Thank CK for sharing your frustration and the difficult logistics for securing a decent gathering space.

Yes you can meet at your public pocket park but you have no control over your destiny in holding a large party. The feeling of being stared at by other neighbors. I can bring my dogs over and have them bark at your guest and even pee and poo nearby your BBQ grille and where your children play. Others can ruin the party ambiance. You have no privacy. You have no exclusivity for a private gathering at a pocket park.

Technically you have to get prior consent from the community management for holding a party at a public park. You also have to sign a liability release form and secure a deposit and pay a fee for using an indoor facility. If you plan on having an attendance more than a few guests then you must also have the neighbors sign an waiver for understanding the temporary parking impact near their properties.

I sympathize you for not having the very basic right for your own assembly. That is a huge sacrifice when there are more HOA rules, fees and parking rules that you have to endure. What quality of life do you really have?

Don't you feel like a prisoner? Paying all that price and don't even a backyard to hold a TalkIrvine gathering and having to apply for permission like you would in a communist country. May be this is why Chinese like Irvine because they missed their old regime.
 
[quote author="scubasteve"]
[quote author="graceomalley"]I have NEVER heard praises regarding KB Homes from homeowners but lawsuits. Please join the crowd. [/quote]

I feel like your arguments using Tiger and his Escalade, Chinese restaurants, and builders who choose not to live in the homes they built are really strong assumptions that are not backed up by hard facts. It could be very well that Tiger makes a boat load of money and likes to drive a nicer car. Or maybe, Chinese cooks are sick of cooking and seeing the same foods night in and night out. Also, builders may have a very lavish lifestyle and can afford to live on the ocean.

Also, not cool that you want my house to fall apart! (I'm just teasing).

Post #1 seems to indicate that KB Homes in Irvine are OK. Granted there are other posts against them! But hey.. it's still one positive post that you've never seen!

http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/1872/


I would've bet that if I had posted that I bought in SJC or Orange, a bunch of TI folks would've have told me i would regret sitting in a car all day commute to Irvine and that I would be spending a lot on gas.

Anyway, I have one more day until I have to give TIC my 3% and soul....what to do?! Btw I appreciate everyone's candid and personal feedback on this topic. Since this is my first home, I am pretty excited AND scared as well![/quote]

Steve,

Don't do it. You have to trust me for my words. You will regret.
 
Not a single builder or architect lives in Irvine?

I understand what you are saying but I don't think you get me.

Maybe Irvine is for people who don't live in the building industry. Maybe builders don't design houses in Irvine that they want to live in.

Your anecdotal information alone is not enough reason for over 200,000 people to not live in Irvine. I agree it is overpriced... but I think many things are overpriced yet we still buy them.

A Toyota drives just as well as an MBZ... but it's nice to have that MBZ right?
 
[quote author="irvinehomeowner"]Not a single builder or architect lives in Irvine?

I understand what you are saying but I don't think you get me.

Maybe Irvine is for people who don't live in the building industry. Maybe builders don't design houses in Irvine that they want to live in.

Your anecdotal information alone is not enough reason for over 200,000 people to not live in Irvine. I agree it is overpriced... but I think many things are overpriced yet we still buy them.

A Toyota drives just as well as an MBZ... but it's nice to have that MBZ right?[/quote]

Hm you are right Irvine is for the brand conscientious status driven people who willingly overpaid for goods and value not worth the price. 200,000 suckers who paid MBZ price for a Camry.
 
Stop fooling yourself there is no MBZ housing in Irvine. You paid MBZ price and got a Camry house without a trunk. All your neighbors have to go to a public pocket trunk for storage.
 
[quote author="graphrix"]
[quote author="USCTrojanCPA"] So I don't know where you think I'm sour about TIC not offering any buyer's co-op commish.[/quote]

Because you CONSTANTLY bring it up. If you don't want people to think you are bitter about it, then shut up about it. [/quote]
Oh graph, you are funny because I think you are seeing double or not able to read if you think I'm CONSTANTLY bringing it up. If you think I'm gonna be bitter about someone so insignificant like that then you still don't understand why I do what I do (I'll give you a hint...it's not to be a typical, greedy realtor). <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]Stop fooling yourself there is no MBZ housing in Irvine. You paid MBZ price and got a Camry house without a trunk. All your neighbors have to go to a public pocket trunk for storage.[/quote]
All valid points, but Irvine buyers place a high value on other things such as the schools and central location. It's an individual decision that these buyers make and I would say that the majority of them go into it with their eyes wide open.
 
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