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which gets me to my next point... i bought a home jan 08. i'm not gonna say where, what builder etc... i paid $575k, i put down $160k my mortgage is $2200k fixed 30 years my maintance, hoa, mello roos is about $600 a month i'm not inlcuding property tax since i save at least that...

<blockquote> ... Buying a home for 500K and 30 years later actually spending around 1.5M for it via interest is absurd.</blockquote> so is your math... 500k loan at 5% is $466k in interest, not $1mil... take inflation, once a year extra payment and tax benefit in account that number is...

there is no smell ! it's Irvine, It's perfect ! prestine, clean and smell free. It's Irvine, the center of the universe. you must have a broken nose. i can only smell roses.

oh and my next car will be an aptera... 150mpg and charge up at home with my solar