<blockquote>Wow... that's a great point. You're now comparing Turtle Ridge in Irvine with a home in NEWPORT BEACH. Something tells me that location does matter when the two homes being compared are in different cities.</blockquote>
hello, you started a poll about huntington beach vs irvine. and conducted another very scientific poll based on a sample of "all the people I know who moved to Irvine" and asked them why they didn't choose fountain valley instead. and yet you're trying to shoot holes in my comparison of two luxury communities within miles of each other. given your response, it sounds like you're agreeing that the best, newest, and highest hilltops of irvine isn't comparable to older, non-view newport beach. <em><strong>isn't that what i've been saying?</strong></em>
<blockquote>Back to Northwood High. Did you know that Northwood is the newest school in Irvine Unified? Did you know that it was built in 1999? Around the same time the houses around there were built? So... the quality or reputation of the school did not draw new residents and increase home values. It's the socio-economic background of the residents moving there who created Northwood's reputation. </blockquote>
you're kidding right? northwood high was a stellar school right out of the gate. that's 50% demographics and 50% successful planning by IUSD. you have to give administration the credit it deserves. beckman high run by TUSD is a fine school but doesn't garner nearly the same national accolades. they both have neighboring communities that are essentially identical. so whats the difference? hmmm, maybe the teachers and administrators? the first yr staff at northwood high was like an all-star team. they keep changing principals every few yrs because they keep getting promoted.
<blockquote>For those who did move there who bought the newer more expensive houses, they made Northwood High what it is today. So the community formed the school, not the other way around.</blockquote>
if demographics was everything, how do you explain charter schools organizations such as greendot and kipp that have had success in creating new schools in some of the worst LA communities? given you're a teacher, it shocks me you wouldn't give credit where credit is due.
<blockquote>University has always been a great school because of it's proximity to UCI.</blockquote>
little correlation. uni kids might be closer physically, but technically, over-achieving students at any of the irvine schools can jump ahead and take college coursework if they want. in the communities around most of the ivy leagues (maybe except for cornell in the boonies), you would NOT want your kids at the local high school despite the interaction those kids have with world-class universities. ucla and usc grad programs of education colloborate heavily with some of the struggling schools in LA. the reason why there's little impact on those high schools is usually their district administration is completely incompetent (i.e. LAUSD).
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Lesson in real estate:
1. Location is most important above all. The beach, the coast, the bays, and the hills in safe neighborhoods will always carry a premium.
2. Newer is better. And I'm not talking about classic homes. That's a different story.
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those are terrible lessons quite frankly. i gave examples earlier of neighboring communities in which the inland is more expensive than coastal, or flatlands is more expensive than hills. i'm not trying to be antagonistic, but seriously, it seems like you're cherry-picking what you want to refute and ignoring what you can't in order to repeat the same old mantra.
<blockquote>Just look at Irvine.</blockquote>
yes, let's...
<blockquote>Northwood High - excellent school because the homes around there are new and expensive.</blockquote>
northwood pointe is not the only community that feeds into this high school. old northwood isn't exactly the shining beacon of desirability in irvine.
<blockquote>Irvine High - good school within an older community.
Woodbrige High - good school within an older community</blockquote>
both schools also get fed by newer communities. for ex, irvine high is also fed woodbury, parts of CG, tustin fields II
<blockquote>University High - excellent school within a desired neighborhood - Turtle Rock and Turtle Ridge and University Hills. It's all about the HILLS and the new homes.</blockquote>
yes, there's only hills and new homes involved with uni. thanks for conveniently leaving out the fact that turtle rock and university park, two neighborhoods that are the traditional core of uni high's student body, also have irvine's oldest homes and residents.
