Work in office or remote?

What kind of position do you prefer?

  • Work in office

    Votes: 8 16.7%

  • Work remote

    Votes: 18 37.5%

  • Hybrid office (more office., some remote)

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • Hybrid remote (more remote, some office)

    Votes: 15 31.3%

  • Other (specify in comments)

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Total voters
    48
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In lieu of announcing a company layoff, give people the choice of whether to "come back in" or quit.  Smart man.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I don't think severance is required for layoffs or firing.
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Yeah, severance is not required, but usually given for layoffs. Definitely not for being fired...unless you're an executive that ran the company to the ground.
 
CalBears96 said:
irvinehomeowner said:
I don't think severance is required for layoffs or firing.
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Yeah, severance is not required, but usually given for layoffs. Definitely not for being fired...unless you're an executive that ran the company to the ground.
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Ha ha, golden parachute deploy.
 
Elon does his own thing but I can see how more companies are going to want people back in the office.  The smart ones will stay remote and mostly remote and start hiring a good talent that is looking to stay remote. 
 
there is also a second email with subject line ?to be super clear?

He is basically saying in person collaboration is needed to come up with great new products, taking a dig at companies that have not yet been mandating return to office.
 
SFH is not holding up?.more unicorns and rainbows?

The downside to working from home: Google CEO Sundar Pichai warns workers they aren't PRODUCTIVE or focused enough and calls on them to think of ways to speed up product development after revenue growth slowed to 13%
?        Google CEO Sundar Pichai told staff during an all-hands meeting last week that he expected them to improve productivity following a sluggish second quarter
?        As staff were concerned about layoffs, Pichai said: 'It's clear we are facing a challenging macro environment with more uncertainty ahead'
?        The tech giant is handing out a survey to staff to help the company to become more productive
?        Questions on the survey include: 'Where should we remove speed bumps to get to better results faster?'
?        The company did not confirm the prospect of layoffs but said that hiring would be slowed through 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...loyees-arent-PRODUCTIVE-says-slow-hiring.html
 
easy solution. 20% pay cut and WFH (to make up deficiency in productivity) and no pay cut but return to office.

morekaos said:
SFH is not holding up?.more unicorns and rainbows?

The downside to working from home: Google CEO Sundar Pichai warns workers they aren't PRODUCTIVE or focused enough and calls on them to think of ways to speed up product development after revenue growth slowed to 13%
?        Google CEO Sundar Pichai told staff during an all-hands meeting last week that he expected them to improve productivity following a sluggish second quarter
?        As staff were concerned about layoffs, Pichai said: 'It's clear we are facing a challenging macro environment with more uncertainty ahead'
?        The tech giant is handing out a survey to staff to help the company to become more productive
?        Questions on the survey include: 'Where should we remove speed bumps to get to better results faster?'
?        The company did not confirm the prospect of layoffs but said that hiring would be slowed through 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...loyees-arent-PRODUCTIVE-says-slow-hiring.html
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Exactly why I?ve been in the office every day since the start of this stupid thing. Productivity, i?ve had work from home for over a decade and still barely ever use it.
 
I used to be that way before the pandemic... a staunch believer that at office was the most productive way to work... even if not really working, you are at the office and available when people need you.

But after Covid, working from home and using the communication tools often and always has changed my mind... for people who can handle it. Due to the fact that I work with various people from different time zones now more than ever, I'm not going to be up at 5 in the morning helping someone with an issue and then have to commute into the office and stay there until 6pm. WFH allows me to be very accessible to both work and family and now I would not have it any other way.

However, it doesn't work for everyone depending on so many variables. I have some co-workers who are terrible WFH people... never around, admitting they aren't working etc etc. Those people should be required to be in-office.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
However, it doesn't work for everyone depending on so many variables. I have some co-workers who are terrible WFH people... never around, admitting they aren't working etc etc. Those people should be required to be in-office.
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I think most people are this way, which is why productivity suffers.
 
Apple going back to hybrid:
https://www.engadget.com/apple-return-to-office-september-063602820.html

After multiple delays and false starts, Apple now has a solid start date for its hybrid work arrangement. According to Bloomberg and The Verge, the tech giant will start requiring employees who work in its Santa Clara Valley offices to report to office three times a week starting in the week of September 5th. They're expected to come in every Tuesdays and Thursdays, with the third day set by their individual teams. In a letter sent to staff members, Apple's SVP of software engineering Craig Federighi encouraged employees to share their input about that third team-specific day with their managers to help them decide.
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I've made the decision that if my company makes us go back into the office, I will look elsewhere.

I don't mind hybrid but in reality, how many times do you need to see your team in-person when you can use Zoom/Teams/whatever?

And unlike "quiet quitting", working remote actually has me doing more work but also giving me some life balance. While being in office does promote water cooler and collaboration, it also prevents those focused hours that some positions need to get work done. A good part of my day is spent bouncing in and out of calls/meetings but it's nice that after dinner when I might be usually watching TV, I can get some quality work hours in on some project... or even do both, have some show playing while I solve the latest issue.

As my kids get older, there is less reason for me to stay in Irvine, other than work, so remote gives me options. Recently, my company published a list of states that are preferred places to live (meaning we have work policies for those states) if we are thinking about moving... I joked that Hawaii wasn't on that list.
 
Now that Elon is King Twit... I wonder how their remote policy is going to change.

Not sure if I mentioned this but one of the biggest benefits of remote... you don't have to use a bathroom shared with hundreds of other people.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Now that Elon is King Twit... I wonder how their remote policy is going to change.

Not sure if I mentioned this but one of the biggest benefits of remote... you don't have to use a bathroom shared with hundreds of other people.
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Well, didn't he say that he's going to lay off like 70% of Twitter employees?
 
IMO WFH is like a cycle. There was a short lived period during dot com bubble era (~1999), then around 2010, and again in 2020. In the previous cycle the WFH trend went into decline after Marissa Mayer became CEO at Yahoo. I recall around 2014 my workplace still allowed WFH one day a week with some employees permitted to WFH full time from remote location. But within a year or so the company put an end to it, if you were working remotely you had to either move closer to an office or had your employment terminated.

When COVID hit we were allowed to WFH full time, but recently the policy has changed to coming into the office at least one day per week.
 
Survey says …Well…this certainly didn’t work in my industry…Why I have been in office this whole time (even when we weren’t’ supposed to be)…My business has almost doubled…

Working from home ‘has not worked', Wall Street boss tell Davos summit – and British chief of Citigroup says slackers should be hauled back into the office if productivity is hit

· Larry Fink, of BlackRock, simply said that 'remote working has not worked'

· But Jane Fraser said that it was important for employees to collaborate

· Other Wall Street bosses have expressed frustration at staff working from home

· Ms Fraser is more open to idea of flexible working than other banking bosses

· But, at the World Economic Forum in Davos, she said a line had to be drawn

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ked-Wall-Street-bosses-tell-Davos-summit.html

 
Do you read anything but DailyMail?

Anecdotally, people I've talked to have had their companies close down their offices to make remote work permanent because productivity was same or higher and they have less costs. Their C level bosses have even moved out of state because morekaos told them to. :)

But also, more companies are going back to hybrid however I've only hear of a few require full time in office.

It really depends on the industry.

For morekaos, I imagine his business is more face-to-face but those can be done via some video app.
 
Most of the clients that I've talked to have told me that their companies are now requiring them to come into the office at least 1-3 times a week but some are still working from home.
 
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